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Validus 03-23-2023 05:02 AM

Who owns and flies their own airplane?
 
Any pilots here? Anyone who owns and flies their own airplane around?

Klen 03-23-2023 05:17 AM

No, but i was thinking about getting cesna pilot license and buying cesna. Given the current car and gas prices, might be cheaper to use it lol

Validus 03-23-2023 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23113465)
No, but i was thinking about getting cesna pilot license and buying cesna. Given the current car and gas prices, might be cheaper to use it lol

Haha, you're going to want to get your private pilot license and then your instrument rating. Not sure you're going to be overly "impressed" by owning a single engine piston airplane in most parts of the country :) But, you can get a TBM or a PC12... but that's going to require a few more bucks.

Klen 03-23-2023 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Validus (Post 23113466)
Haha, you're going to want to get your private pilot license and then your instrument rating. Not sure you're going to be overly "impressed" by owning a single engine piston airplane in most parts of the country :) But, you can get a TBM or a PC12... but that's going to require a few more bucks.

Cesna pilot license is quite cheap, like 500 euros if i remember correctly. But if you want to get commercial flight license, that is whole different game - cost around 43k . Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

Cessna's can be bought from 40k euroes, and another option is to simply rent, which is quite convenient if you want arrive from one city to another fast and there are no commercial flights available.

Validus 03-23-2023 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23113474)
Cesna pilot license is quite cheap, like 500 euros if i remember correctly. But if you want to get commercial flight license, that is whole different game - cost around 43k . Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

Cessna's can be bought from 40k euroes, and another option is to simply rent, which is quite convenient if you want arrive from one city to another fast and there are no commercial flights available.

Not sure what you're talking about -- and I've got no idea about Europe -- but I have a commercial multi-engine license and instrument rating in the US.

Mr Pheer 03-23-2023 05:40 AM

I've had three. First was a '67 Piper PA-28/140, second was a Pulsar XP, third was a Glasair 1 that I got completed to about 65%, then converted it to a down payment on my house 20 years ago.

I was also a military Air Traffic Controller.

Validus 03-23-2023 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23113477)
I've had three. First was a '67 Piper PA-28/140, second was a Pulsar XP, third was a Glasair 1 that I got completed to about 65%, then converted it to a down payment on my house 20 years ago.

I was also a military Air Traffic Controller.

Ah sweet. You don't do much flying anymore?

Klen 03-23-2023 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Validus (Post 23113476)
Not sure what you're talking about -- and I've got no idea about Europe -- but I have a commercial multi-engine license and instrument rating in the US.

How much did it cost you ? And school which i was checking is this: https://www.aeroprague.com/en/ . Looks like prices went up in the meantime.

Validus 03-23-2023 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23113479)
How much did it cost you ? And school which i was checking is this: https://www.aeroprague.com/en/ . Looks like prices went up in the meantime.

Probably around 90k USD.

And the prices you're looking at, I believe are per-hour rental prices.

Mr Pheer 03-23-2023 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Validus (Post 23113478)
Ah sweet. You don't do much flying anymore?

Lost medical six years ago for cirrhosis, but now with a new-to-me liver I can get it back if I want. I don't have any restrictions.

Validus 03-23-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23113486)
Lost medical six years ago for cirrhosis, but now with a new-to-me liver I can get it back if I want. I don't have any restrictions.

Ah sweet. Basic Med might also be an option. Glad you're doing better now! I've got my first-class med -- which reminds me that I need to schedule a "renewal".

Colmike9 03-23-2023 06:44 AM

Edgeprod

Sexier 03-23-2023 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23113474)
Cesna pilot license is quite cheap, like 500 euros if i remember correctly. But if you want to get commercial flight license, that is whole different game - cost around 43k . Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

Cessna's can be bought from 40k euroes, and another option is to simply rent, which is quite convenient if you want arrive from one city to another fast and there are no commercial flights available.

Where did you get that 500 euro for a PPL, PPL in Europe cost between 5k to 12k depending on country.

And a decent used Cessna will set you back around 150k euro anything less will be a mechanic hog

dUbster 03-23-2023 06:54 AM

I do and my wife rides it every night

Klen 03-23-2023 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 23113509)
Where did you get that 500 euro for a PPL, PPL in Europe cost between 5k to 12k depending on country.

And a decent used Cessna will set you back around 150k euro anything less will be a mechanic hog

No idea. It was probably price before gas inflation.

CurrentlySober 03-23-2023 07:33 AM

I'm too fat to even fly commercial... :(

Let alone poolet my own plain... :(

ruff 03-23-2023 09:15 AM

I got my pilots license in A² in the 70's and bought a Cessna 150.

adultinnovation 03-23-2023 09:23 AM

everyone on gfy own their own planes

Validus 03-23-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 23113597)
I got my pilots license in A² in the 70's and bought a Cessna 150.

Haha do you still have your 150?

ANAL PASTE 03-23-2023 09:55 AM

I miss edgeprod

MatureKing 03-23-2023 09:55 AM

I have pussy plane

Grapesoda 03-23-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23113474)
. Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

military trained

Grapesoda 03-23-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE (Post 23113620)
I miss edgeprod

:thumbsup...

ruff 03-23-2023 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Validus (Post 23113618)
Haha do you still have your 150?

Yeah, it's in Florida. It's fabric not metal. It's old as hell, but still fun as long as I can pass my medical

ruff 03-23-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23113474)
Cesna pilot license is quite cheap, like 500 euros if i remember correctly. But if you want to get commercial flight license, that is whole different game - cost around 43k . Which makes me wonder how does anyone become a commercial flight pilot. considering that cost.

Cessna's can be bought from 40k euroes, and another option is to simply rent, which is quite convenient if you want arrive from one city to another fast and there are no commercial flights available.

I set out for a commercial license in the early 70's. Back then the airlines did not like re-training military pilots. Shortly thereafter, the Viet Nam war ended and dumped a huge surplus of military pilots on the market. I was told it would take 10 years for the market to absorb these pilots. It turns out that was a pretty accurate prediction. So I moved on to something else, but never lost the fun of flying. My Cessna 150 back then cost $5k. Don't know what it's worth now.

fuzebox 03-23-2023 03:17 PM

I rode in a Cessna 208 Caravan today :1orglaugh

I took a few intro lessons in a Cirrus 12 years ago... They were trying to sell me hard on a license package but it wasn't really my thing and impossible to justify.

pornlaw 03-24-2023 11:16 PM

Thinking about getting an Ultra Light... cheaper than buying a sports car...

Ultra Light licenses are easy to get, less hours are needed, you dont need medical clearances but you can only fly these planes, during the day, in good weather, at lower altitudes and with 1 passenger.

https://aeromarket24.com/uploads/anu....jpg?551937759

https://aeromarket24.com/advert/836/...A-RG-914-TURBO

NatalieK 03-25-2023 12:51 AM

My partner has his yachting licence & wanted to get a pilot captains licence for a helicopter, but i hate flying so much and don´t like heights, would be pointless, so we stick to driving on land or water lol :)

brassmonkey 03-25-2023 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23114463)
Thinking about getting an Ultra Light... cheaper than buying a sports car...

Ultra Light licenses are easy to get, less hours are needed, you dont need medical clearances but you can only fly these planes, during the day, in good weather, at lower altitudes and with 1 passenger.

https://aeromarket24.com/uploads/anu....jpg?551937759

https://aeromarket24.com/advert/836/...A-RG-914-TURBO

a coffin with wings :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Mr Pheer 03-25-2023 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23114463)
Thinking about getting an Ultra Light... cheaper than buying a sports car...

Ultra Light licenses are easy to get, less hours are needed, you dont need medical clearances but you can only fly these planes, during the day, in good weather, at lower altitudes and with 1 passenger.

https://aeromarket24.com/uploads/anu....jpg?551937759

https://aeromarket24.com/advert/836/...A-RG-914-TURBO

Do your research. That's not even close to Ultra Light in the US.

254 pounds is the limit. Maximum speed of 63mph at full power in level flight, and stall speed no greater than 24mph.

The plane in the photo will not meet any of that. An ultralight must meet all three.

I think you have Ultra Light and LSA confused.

pornlaw 03-25-2023 07:22 AM

double post

pornlaw 03-25-2023 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 23114497)
a coffin with wings :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23114511)
Do your research. That's not even close to Ultra Light in the US.

254 pounds is the limit. Maximum speed of 63mph at full power in level flight, and stall speed no greater than 24mph.

The plane in the photo will not meet any of that. An ultralight must meet all three.

I think you have Ultra Light and LSA confused.

LSA then... Jesus.

2MuchMark 03-25-2023 07:29 AM

I am looking to get a pilots license for small Cesna planes this year. I fly often with a friend of mine and I love it. I have flown myself as co-pilot but never took-off or landed of course. I have no plans to buy a new plane but might pickup a used one in a few years.

If you have never flown in a small 2 or 4 seater plane before I highly suggest it. It's alot of fun.

2MuchMark 03-25-2023 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NatalieK (Post 23114482)
My partner has his yachting licence & wanted to get a pilot captains licence for a helicopter, but i hate flying so much and don´t like heights, would be pointless, so we stick to driving on land or water lol :)

I am just the opposite. I LOVE heights, and LOVE flying. The only part I hate about flying is the long security lines when travelling but otherwise I look forward to every flight I take.

Mr Pheer 03-25-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23114546)
LSA then... Jesus.

If you wanna be that way about it... the plane you posted a picture of, would not even qualify as an LSA because of it's retractable landing gear, variable pitch propellor, and speed.

People often waste their money getting into an aircraft that is beyond their means.
You would need a regular private pilot certificate to legally fly that.

-Jesus

Mr Pheer 03-25-2023 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 23113724)
Yeah, it's in Florida. It's fabric not metal. It's old as hell, but still fun as long as I can pass my medical

You can now fly a 150 as an LSA under the updated FAA rules :thumbsup

So as long as you don't get your medical taken away, you could let it expire and keep flying under LSA guidelines.

fris 03-25-2023 10:03 AM

i have an rc airplane does that count

pornlaw 03-25-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23114608)
If you wanna be that way about it... the plane you posted a picture of, would not even qualify as an LSA because of it's retractable landing gear, variable pitch propellor, and speed.

People often waste their money getting into an aircraft that is beyond their means.
You would need a regular private pilot certificate to legally fly that.

-Jesus

Happy now ???

https://aeromarket24.com/uploads/anu...jpg?1471692419

Mr Pheer 03-25-2023 11:09 AM

Why the attitude?

Pilots generally like to help those interested in flying. You posted a complex aircraft and labeled it as an ultralight, so I tried to help...

The other plane you posted is pretty, but get some training. Ask for spin training, as it's not usually included in sport pilot or private pilot certificates.

The first time you're testing the flight envelope in your new-to-you sport plane and you see how it handles a stall and you experience a wing drop and spin, if you're not trained you'll become a lawn dart.

IAW 03-25-2023 11:24 AM

I bought a piece of equipment called a car at some point.
I packed myself into the 1 square meter square called the driver's seat and I realized, there is nowhere to go to in it.

Mr Pheer 03-25-2023 11:28 AM


brassmonkey 03-25-2023 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23114626)

the lighter the more dangerous they are... john denver died in one of these

Rutan Long-EZ

https://i.imgur.com/YAekSO8.jpg

Colmike9 03-25-2023 02:35 PM

My grandma flew a Piper Cub.

~Evilin~ 03-25-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adultinnovation (Post 23113599)
everyone on gfy own their own planes

100% agreed

ruff 03-25-2023 06:23 PM

Owning an airplane is not much different than owning a motorcycle. Financially or otherwise. Pretty much the only difference is you can keep one of them in your garage. It just depends on how far you range out of the ordinary.

Look Chang 03-25-2023 08:02 PM

I had a private license to fly a Robin DR400 in the 80s.

https://bergerac-aeroclub.com/wp-con...-400-QXjpg.jpg

AmeliaG 03-25-2023 10:57 PM

This thread delivers.

Every time I drive past the North Las Vegas airport signs for flying lessons, I'm like hmmmm. Always been curious about flying.

Then again, if they ever manufacture the Cybertruck I pre-ordered, who knows if I'll even be driving a car, much less a plane.

ruff 03-25-2023 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23114847)
This thread delivers.

Every time I drive past the North Las Vegas airport signs for flying lessons, I'm like hmmmm. Always been curious about flying.

Then again, if they ever manufacture the Cybertruck I pre-ordered, who knows if I'll even be driving a car, much less a plane.

If I remember correctly, you'll fly solo with as little as 8 hours instruction. You'll likely be practicing touch and goes with your instructor and after landing he'll jump out of the plane and tell you to keep going. It's a surprise move. There you are, on the runway and it's time to solo. Exhilarating! The remaining 32 hours is flying and learning navigation. It's definitely an experience you should not pass up.

Validus 03-26-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 23114850)
If I remember correctly, you'll fly solo with as little as 8 hours instruction. You'll likely be practicing touch and goes with your instructor and after landing he'll jump out of the plane and tell you to keep going. It's a surprise move. There you are, on the runway and it's time to solo. Exhilarating! The remaining 32 hours is flying and learning navigation. It's definitely an experience you should not pass up.

Um, not quite. There's a "list of things" you have to do and meet.

How things are structure will depend if it's a part 61 or part 141 school/program. The time requirements are also dependent on wether it's 61 or 141.

But, when you're instructor feels like the student is ready, the student will go up into the pattern and do a feel laps solo.

fuzebox 03-26-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23114847)
Every time I drive past the North Las Vegas airport signs for flying lessons, I'm like hmmmm. Always been curious about flying.

That's where I did mine. Also helicopter :thumbsup

Fun experiences but again not something I wanted to persue at the time.


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