The alternative to AI fucking your shit up
 

Here in Canada, plenty of professionals making $30-$40 an hour are living in total poverty

The next few years are going to be crazy I think

^ I'm convinced half of Canada lives in Mexico now.

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That's because your prices are high. You taxes are high. Your clinic bills and "obamacare" are high. Actually that's why I never considered North America and EU as places where I'd like to live.

Nothing personal BTW. Your countries are nice and cool... but only for traveling. Personally, I really enjoyed traveling the South of the USA - from coast to coast. But it's a big NO to staying there for life. Sorry, but it's definitely not a dream country. Never been to Canada, but I think it's something similar, but much colder :)

A few days ago I fixed my tooth in a local private clinic (I left Russia about a year ago). I had a very serious problem with it - a purulent root granuloma. So the pus was drained and the granuloma was successfully cured, the canals are filled and the cherry on the cake is a reliable Japanese filling. I paid $85 for all. $50 of which is the price of that Japanese filling (I was suggested cheaper German and Italian tooth fillings, but no - I wanted the best one) and $25 for the work of the dentist, x-ray and other shit. And believe me - this is a good private clinic with modern equipment and certified doctors.

I asked a dentist - "what if I pay you for a Japanese product and you just use a Chinese one?" He answered - "No way, we don't use Chinese shit. See - I'm unpacking it right now and you can take a picture to Google for the manufacturer" if you want so. Since I don't trust anyone but myself, so...

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How much such a procedure will cost in your countries?

$2000 Canadian. Where are you now?

In Mexico

Wisdom tooth extraction: $30-$100
Teeth cleaning: $40-$60
Root Canal: $200-$300

Sorry, it's my little secret. I don't want any more immigrants here :pimp :winkwink:

The only thing I can say, it's warm here (+40C is a standard temperature for every single day during the summer and something like +10C at Christmas) - same latitude as the State of Nevada. It's always sunny and a waaaaaay cheaper than in Moscow. Palms are better than sad birches. It's totally visa-free for me and no restrictions on the time of stay :thumbsup

I understand. I'll take guesses with the clues you left. Enjoy your new paradise.

What is the price of a veneer in Mexico? Here it will cost you a bit less than $300. A German or Korean implant + zirconium-ceramic crown will cost about $500. Since I've been to the clinic recently, I have their price list in my hand and inspecting it right now ;)

It's no secret why I left Russia. I don't want to go to prison for 14 years just for saying that I don't agree with what my government is doing to Ukraine. I'm not kidding - 14 years in prison for just a few words spoken in public.

Also, I'm a coder and I have a few thousand customers around the world. Mostly in the States and EU. I just can't get paid being in Russia because of banking sanctions. Ironically these sanctions are not even noticed by the people that live there. They work mostly against international punks like me :upsidedow

Others live their regular lives in Moscow and don't give a flying fuck about any Western sanctions. I know what I'm talking about...

Robots can't take over my job, they've tried, didn't work. :(

Your first born child or

Yo mamma!

:1orglaugh

where are you located? turkey?

Technology is supposed to make us FREE

It's all about ATTITUDE

No. I've been to Turkey a few times - not a country I'd like to stay in for more than a week. They have a very different culture, and... I don't speak Turkish. They don't speak English and the only Russian word they know is "Natasha". I'm not Natasha, I don't look like Natasha, I don't smell like Natasha, so I don't think I could have any conscious dialog with the locals there :upsidedow

My baby momma's rich friends have mostly left Canada and live in Mexico City running a high end clothing store. My childhood rich buddies moved to Ecuador and run a physio clinic. My friend who lives nearby just got a FAT inheritance and is looking to move out of Canada as well. Seems like a lot of people are getting the fuck out lately!

Living in Canada was so fucking amazing in the 90's and 00's and a few years of the 10's

After Occupy Wall Street the shift happened and now Canada in 2023 is a shithole compared to even 2013!

I helped my ex get invisalign for her one snaggle tooth that needed a bunch of other teeth moved for a perfect smile... she was fucking GORGEOUS other than a single fucked up tooth that was like sideways in her mouth...


It was like $2300 or so at the time...


I have a neighbour that wanted to get invisalign recently and was quoted something like fucking $6,000... and his teeth aren't very crooked at all, just a couple out of place.


Over twice as expensive in only 10 years!

I have heard the same stories from Aussies. Hey, even Moscow, where I lived for 20 years, is not the Moscow I knew, say in 2014... Everything is getting worse in developed places. Now, when educated people don't need to have a local job (thanks to the Internet) and to go to the office, they go for downshift. Why pay more if you can have the same goods for 10x cheaper price? Why pay these inhuman taxes if you do not get anything in return for the government?

The culture has also really rotted...

12.500+ have died from poisoned drugs in B.C. since 2016 alone!

People are chin to chest on their phones, repeat the same shit the TV told them, and don't even get me started on all the NPCs that lined up for the bullshit COVID "vaccine"... lol

2013 you could host/goto a party and talk current events, politics, pop culture, whatever... you talk to 50 people and you'd get like 30-40 different opinions out of those people... people definitely varied more in their thoughts.

2023 and you socialize and everyone talks and thinks the same. You talk to 50 people and you get 2-3 different opinions or thoughts out of all those people. Like there is no point to socializing because you already know what people are going to say and what the current thing to talk about is. As someone who considers himself an artist of sorts, trying to socialize with other "artists" is now next to impossible because they're incredibly fuckng woke now. Wasn't this bad at all in 2013.:helpme

apart from it´s about 15 in winter, sounds similar to my home here in Spain...

we´ve got 40 in summer and 15 in winter, palms, beaches and so good food & wine all at great prices...


and they can´t take over my job fucking guys & girls neither...


no AI is gonna fuck our shit up :thumbsup

I suspect the future of AI will be POLITICAL

There's enough fear in the mix for power systems to let it run its NATURAL course

The "nice part" of Mexico City is a tree lined slum with wary locals and oblivious Yanks/Canadians dazzled by the "vibrant" culture.

Until AI takes over ALL jobs and there is a fundamental restructuring of society and the economy, those who have their jobs taken over by AI are fucked.

However, there are going to be a great many jobs in which AI takes over the menial aspects of their work, and many of us here are already enjoying the fruits of that.

Think twice: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...veryone-thinks :1orglaugh

I soooooo feel you on the bizarre thing where people I know, who used to seem like interesting creative independent thinkers, mostly now converse in one of two regurgitating parrot styles. You can't even talk to them about their generic ideas because they are not really their ideas. It is incredibly creepy and sad.

Honestly though, is there really such a think as TRULY independent thought nowadays? Most are just rehashes of previous ideas.... From time to time, you see an original or unique twist but not much.

I put a lot of effort into curating a life where most of my interactions would be with artists and entrepreneurs and other iconoclasts who marched to the beat of their own drummers.

In recent years, at least in the US, conversations have become more dull on average. There is diminished interest in music or literature or fashion or even gossiping about people they know. It is all one of two opinions about news story of the day, but their knowledge is so shallow, so minimal, so unresearched, so not particularly their own opinion that there is no point in even trying to accommodate their supposed new interests.

I'm not saying that everyone I ever used to interact with was either a leader or loner and no followers and everyone had constant original and interesting and innovative ideas they expressed...but the percentages were better and much less frustrating and much less boring.

In the 1990s we all thought everyone was going to lose their jobs because of computers....

The Venus Project by Jacque Fresco, back in the seventies, clearly outlined how to organize a society and "villages" for rational, reasonable use of resources - especially those which are limited.

Using robotics and 3D printing, dwellings and institutional buildings could be built with incredible efficiency, and physically organized for integrated public transit.

Free time was the reward to everyone - to live, thrive, and be creative. The machinery did all the work, that communities owned.

Libraries lent out everything that no one really need to have their own copy of, including tools, and such.

This, as any forward-thinking sincere vision, had utopian elements to it, not to mention, "socialist" qualities that gave all those consumed by corporate zero sum mental afflictions, all they needed to shoot it down, and keep it down.

The movie "Zeitgeist, Moving Forward" did a great job explaining Fresco's vision, where referring to modern world ways, he said "This shit's gotta end."

But it hasn't, and it never will. We have enough evidence of that, and it just keeps piling up.

The game is over.

:2 cents:

Don't say for everyone. In 1991, I was 100% sure that computers would be my career, because I've sold my 1st commercial program that year. It was a game for a 8bit computer :upsidedow

I highly suspect Universal Basic Income will become a PROMINENT PART of any CONVERSATION regarding AI's impact on the economy