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AmeliaG 11-07-2023 11:02 PM

Where to host mission critical WordPress site?
 
Where would you host a WordPress site which is mission critical and can not afford to have any substantial downtime?

Does WordPress VIP take adult? Anyone have experience with them?

Cue folks saying no mission critical site should be on a WP engine ...

Victor-E 11-08-2023 12:57 AM

Try Hostgator. Texas based. Reasonable prices and their dedicated servers come with WP ready to go.

Klen 11-08-2023 01:29 AM

Every site is mission critical :)

AmeliaG 11-08-2023 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23196574)
Every site is mission critical :)

I agree, in a perfect world, but ... Some sites need better uptime than others. Some sites, nobody is going to freak out over a few hours of downtime. Some sites will trend on social media if they have 10 minutes of downtime.

AmeliaG 11-08-2023 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor-E (Post 23196566)
Try Hostgator. Texas based. Reasonable prices and their dedicated servers come with WP ready to go.

Thanks. Is their URL hostgator.com? I'm having trouble getting past a Cloudflare robot check on that. Maybe I am a robot.

I kinda don't care about the price for this project, just need reliability and excellent tech support for specifically WordPress sites.

3xmedia 11-08-2023 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor-E (Post 23196566)
Try Hostgator. Texas based. Reasonable prices and their dedicated servers come with WP ready to go.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:error:error:helpme

Klen 11-08-2023 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 23196581)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:error:error:helpme

I agree, hostgator is one of hosts where you host if you want plenty of downtime's lol

Colmike9 11-08-2023 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23196585)
I agree, hostgator is one of hosts where you host if you want plenty of downtime's lol

Yeah, I've used HG before, I wouldn't recommend them for anything important

fris 11-08-2023 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23196551)
Where would you host a WordPress site which is mission critical and can not afford to have any substantial downtime?

Does WordPress VIP take adult? Anyone have experience with them?

Cue folks saying no mission critical site should be on a WP engine ...

can i ask what type of site this is for?

i haver a bunch of clients running adult wp sites that do over 100,000 visitors a day, and have zero downtime on mojohost.

wordpress vip pricing you are going to be paying around $10,000 a year for just the support. thats without the actual wordpress hosting.

i think they start at around $10,000 a month for vip hosting.

OneHungLo 11-08-2023 06:16 AM

Reflected.net or Vacares.com. Both are reliable with excellent support.

plsureking 11-08-2023 07:03 AM

i used to use HG for WP a long time ago but they have process and mem management problems. i like a2hosting (i wont even use an aff link) because they have optimized their servers and installs for speed.

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Freedom6995 11-08-2023 07:32 AM

I would go with Sly @ vacares.com

Since I moved my sites there, I have had 100% uptime.

Uptime: 134 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes.

Klen 11-08-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Freedom6995 (Post 23196656)
I would go with Sly @ vacares.com

Since I moved my sites there, I have had 100% uptime.

Uptime: 134 days, 13 hours, 20 minutes.

The uptime linux command is not reliable way to tell do you have 100% uptime or not, it only say how your server did not restarted. For network uptime, you would need to have external checker which will ping your site every x minutes and based on that you will know your actual uptime.

plsureking 11-08-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23196663)
The uptime linux command is not reliable way to tell do you have 100% uptime or not, it only say how your server did not restarted. For network uptime, you would need to have external checker which will ping your site every x minutes and based on that you will know your actual uptime.

need a sign that says "XX days since we got a support ticket" :1orglaugh

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Freedom6995 11-08-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23196663)
The uptime linux command is not reliable way to tell do you have 100% uptime or not, it only say how your server did not restarted. For network uptime, you would need to have external checker which will ping your site every x minutes and based on that you will know your actual uptime.

Good to know, thank-you.

I do have external trackers that check my sites every 5 minutes, and I have not received an alert as of yet.

Colmike9 11-08-2023 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23196675)
need a sign that says "XX days since we got a support ticket" :1orglaugh

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But.. then that means the ticketing software is broken.. lol

OmahaJoe 11-08-2023 09:41 AM

Mojohost vps.... Tell Natalie what you need they get it done quick

Colmike9 11-08-2023 09:44 AM

Back when I had some massive projects, Mojo was the only one that didn't cause me any problems.

fris 11-08-2023 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OmahaJoe (Post 23196689)
Mojohost vps.... Tell Natalie what you need they get it done quick

thats what i use.

Sly 11-08-2023 10:55 AM

Amelia I sent you an email.

Thanks for the support guys, the Vacares team appreciates you.

sandman! 11-08-2023 11:07 AM

depends on your budget ?

if its $100 a month the answer will be different then if its $5000 a month.

blackmonsters 11-08-2023 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23196551)
Where would you host a WordPress site which is mission critical and can not afford to have any substantial downtime?

Mission critical and Wordpress in the same sentence.

:helpme :Oh crap

Rochard 11-08-2023 02:17 PM

This isn't 2002 when a web host would go down... Sites are pretty stable these days.

NatalieK 11-08-2023 05:14 PM

We used to be with hostgator before moving to a dedicated server to a company in Canada...

We had no problems with hostgator then, we just wanted to get a dedicated with Netelligent as weŽd heard good things about the company, & they were excellent.

Now back with Hostgator as Netelligent only offer dedicated, not needing a dedicated for our blog & few small domains.

Our blog, a WP base site, was running on a British server, they said after 5 years of running our blog with them, "we donŽt do adult", no emails, no pre warning, just cut us off! They allowed us to go into the server to send everything across to Hostgator...

the site was back up & online within an hour or so of purchasing the server, no problems since & no down times :thumbsup

WTG HG!

NoWhErE 11-08-2023 05:21 PM

Jesus stay away from HG at all costs. They are owned by a conglomerate who uses the cheapest hardware and support is atrocious.

If you REALLY want 100% uptime, find a wordpress to static site generator and export your site as html only.

Then serve those html files from a CDN with an offline function (keep serving files even if the origin is down.

Result: blazing fast site that will remain up even if your wp instance gets hacked all for the price of a local wordpress instance and a
CDN starting at $10 a month.

I host several high traffic sites like this

jamezon 11-09-2023 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23196802)
If you REALLY want 100% uptime, find a wordpress to static site generator and export your site as html only.

what do you use for wp to static conversion ?? everytime i tried one of the usual plugins it totally failed due to complexity of the site.

Klen 11-09-2023 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23196802)
Jesus stay away from HG at all costs. They are owned by a conglomerate who uses the cheapest hardware and support is atrocious.

If you REALLY want 100% uptime, find a wordpress to static site generator and export your site as html only.

Then serve those html files from a CDN with an offline function (keep serving files even if the origin is down.

Result: blazing fast site that will remain up even if your wp instance gets hacked all for the price of a local wordpress instance and a
CDN starting at $10 a month.

I host several high traffic sites like this

An alternative to that would be memcached . Memcached basically load page from memory/cache always once first query is done and it stay that way till content of query is changed.

https://themeisle.com/blog/wordpress-memcached/#gref

Kelli58 11-09-2023 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor-E (Post 23196566)
Try Hostgator. Texas based. Reasonable prices and their dedicated servers come with WP ready to go.

Very unstable servers. Wouldn't suggest at all.

NoWhErE 11-09-2023 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23196900)
An alternative to that would be memcached . Memcached basically load page from memory/cache always once first query is done and it stay that way till content of query is changed.

https://themeisle.com/blog/wordpress-memcached/#gref

That is indeed an alternative. The reason I dont so it is so I can 100% seperate wordpress from the production site. If WP goes down,my site will still be up

NoWhErE 11-09-2023 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jamezon (Post 23196898)
what do you use for wp to static conversion ?? everytime i tried one of the usual plugins it totally failed due to complexity of the site.

I think the name is wp-static.

It might take a bit of tinkering to set it up the first time. You’ll need to work on excluding unecessary files and including files the plugin might miss.

Also, some functions like, for example, the search bar will need to be changed to either use ajax or ping your php server to get results. So its up to you to decide if you want to keep certain functionalities dynamic or not.

Klen 11-09-2023 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23196984)
That is indeed an alternative. The reason I dont so it is so I can 100% seperate wordpress from the production site. If WP goes down,my site will still be up

Memcached should keep site up as well as it's cache , tho did not tried downtime scenario so cant tell for sure. Originally when i was doing my tube script, i made cache system based on file storage, where i would save each output as html file and load that on every next load. But then i read somewhere how is better to use system like memcached because memcached is using memory as storage, and memory is faster then hard drive so i switched to memcached, and loading cached/saved pages were indeed faster, plus memcached have ability to automatically detect if content of query changed, while with my previous solution that had to be done manually.

NoWhErE 11-09-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23197000)
Memcached should keep site up as well as it's cache , tho did not tried downtime scenario so cant tell for sure. Originally when i was doing my tube script, i made cache system based on file storage, where i would save each output as html file and load that on every next load. But then i read somewhere how is better to use system like memcached because memcached is using memory as storage, and memory is faster then hard drive so i switched to memcached, and loading cached/saved pages were indeed faster, plus memcached have ability to automatically detect if content of query changed, while with my previous solution that had to be done manually.

That makes sense.

I'd be curious to know if a memcached page is served faster through your server than a static file through a CDN.

Tasty1 11-09-2023 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23196663)
The uptime linux command is not reliable way to tell do you have 100% uptime or not, it only say how your server did not restarted. For network uptime, you would need to have external checker which will ping your site every x minutes and based on that you will know your actual uptime.

What do you advice to use to check if the server is up?

Klen 11-09-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasty1 (Post 23197137)
What do you advice to use to check if the server is up?

Any uptime checker like https://uptimerobot.com/

Freedom6995 11-09-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23197139)
Any uptime checker like https://uptimerobot.com/

Gets my vote. :thumbsup

fris 11-09-2023 03:43 PM

i use redis for full page caching.

plsureking 11-09-2023 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tasty1 (Post 23197137)
What do you advice to use to check if the server is up?

any server on a different host can run a monitoring script. there's a script on codecanyon for like $10.

then get another host to watch that host :1orglaugh

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emmasexytime 11-10-2023 08:38 PM

moji are great :thumbsup

fuzebox 11-10-2023 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23197139)
Any uptime checker like https://uptimerobot.com/

Love uptimerobot, have been a paid user for years and have all sorts of custom monitors for anything you can think of :thumbsup

Klen 11-11-2023 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23197289)
any server on a different host can run a monitoring script. there's a script on codecanyon for like $10.

then get another host to watch that host :1orglaugh

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Not everyone are system administrators lol . Plus commercial uptime checkers have one advantage - they check from multiple geo locations which is also handy as it can tell you if people from certain geo cant access your website.

plsureking 11-11-2023 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23197774)
Not everyone are system administrators lol . Plus commercial uptime checkers have one advantage - they check from multiple geo locations which is also handy as it can tell you if people from certain geo cant access your website.

ya for sure i've used a few :thumbsup

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NatalieK 11-11-2023 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23196802)
Jesus stay away from HG at all costs. support is atrocious.

this is not true...

24/7 support & they always fix any problem or help with any enquiry, just my :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23197139)
Any uptime checker like https://uptimerobot.com/

absolutely, we use this :thumbsup

headbullen 11-12-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23196551)
Where would you host a WordPress site which is mission critical and can not afford to have any substantial downtime?

Where is your budget at ? There is ways to make a webpage close to impossible to takedown, and restoration after a "breakdown" as quick as you can login to a dashboard.

I do my hosting in AWS, for business critical i use docker images and multiple regions.


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