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mopek1 11-08-2023 06:13 AM

Is Backlinking Structure Important?
 
Is it still a thing to do the:

GSA Spam Comments --> Web 2.0 --> Personal PBN --> Money Site ?

Meaning is that considered a good SEO practice?

Or do you just throw as many links as you can (Web 2.0 and better) at your site and get volume, while trying to obviously target high quality.

TheLegacy 11-08-2023 06:30 AM

Throwing a bunch of backlinks is not a good idea - first that they may have lower domain authority - secondly they likely will have spam

A careful choice of backlinks is important. Happy to talk further if you want if you message me on skype

mopek1 11-08-2023 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23196636)
Throwing a bunch of backlinks is not a good idea - first that they may have lower domain authority - secondly they likely will have spam

A careful choice of backlinks is important. Happy to talk further if you want if you message me on skype

Thanks. I may take you up on the Skype offer.

I understand what you said. I guess I should have clarified and said that many of the bigger sites I see get backlinks from high DA sites, but also lower DA (not spammy though) and everything in between. It seems like they all point to the money site.

In contrast, many others in aff marketing talk about that first structure I mentioned where you build depth until it reaches your money site.

mrmister 11-08-2023 07:10 AM

Just look at how other sites are operating

For instance a brand new domain you probably won't get away with throwing a bunch of links at it too quickly. Link velocity is a thing

If your site is aged then maybe you will. Not sure Google penalises bad links anymore. Rather they just don't count. Don't quote me though but would easy to do a negative SEO attack on your competitor if that was the case

I think adult has different rules to the rest. Ive seen sites rank well with a bunch of spammy links it's luck of the draw.

Look at theporndude. 22k refering domains. A lot of them are probably crap but I'm guessing his site has the authority to cope for it

WiredGuy 11-08-2023 07:37 AM

I'd just cut the GSA spam comments in your flow chart and work on getting quality web 2.0 links. Upload good quality content to web 2.0, then follow/like similar niches. I tend to believe that a good following base to 2.0 websites is just as valuable as backlinks.
WG

mopek1 11-08-2023 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23196652)
Look at theporndude. 22k refering domains. A lot of them are probably crap but I'm guessing his site has the authority to cope for it

How does he get authority without backlinks? Is it traffic?

mopek1 11-08-2023 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23196659)
I'd just cut the GSA spam comments in your flow chart and work on getting quality web 2.0 links. Upload good quality content to web 2.0, then follow/like similar niches. I tend to believe that a good following base to 2.0 websites is just as valuable as backlinks.
WG

Thanks for your input.

Tumblr and Blogger allow text but not images for adult niches (unless they are porn-looking images without nudity? Just a guess. I don't use images anymore so I don't get banned). Any other web 2.0 properties that allow adult, and have enough traffic on them?

WiredGuy 11-08-2023 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23196673)
Thanks for your input.

Tumblr and Blogger allow text but not images for adult niches (unless they are porn-looking images without nudity? Just a guess. I don't use images anymore so I don't get banned). Any other web 2.0 properties that allow adult, and have enough traffic on them?

Based on the flow chart you mapped, you don't actually need adult content, it can be any content (ie: memes, cat pics, food, etc.). From your web 2.0 pages, add any content you like and then link to your PBN and then to your money site.
WG

fuzebox 11-08-2023 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23196672)
How does he get authority without backlinks? Is it traffic?

Uhh he has a fuckton of backlinks.

mopek1 11-08-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23196681)
Uhh he has a fuckton of backlinks.

Yeah, my bad. I read the other poster's reply above as "22k links" when it was 22k domains. He has 277 million links.

$5 submissions 12-21-2023 03:28 PM

Given the brutal September update and subsequent updates, focus on link quality instead of quantity

Word on the SEO street is Google has a massive game changer update rolling out in 2024

I hope it's not as devastating as Panda and Penguin

mopek1 12-21-2023 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 23212317)

Word on the SEO street is Google has a massive game changer update rolling out in 2024

So the copy/paste "authority sites" will get more, and everyone else will have to write more and better "helpful" content.

Oh, and I thought September - November was a game changer already.

cordoba 12-22-2023 01:17 AM

Is having a simple partner's page of link exchanges any use at all? Apparently, it goes against Google's good link-building practices, but most of my rivals in my niche have them.

trevesty 12-22-2023 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23196636)
Throwing a bunch of backlinks is not a good idea - first that they may have lower domain authority - secondly they likely will have spam

A careful choice of backlinks is important. Happy to talk further if you want if you message me on skype

I'd ignore this. Clearly doesn't understand the question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23196659)
I'd just cut the GSA spam comments in your flow chart and work on getting quality web 2.0 links. Upload good quality content to web 2.0, then follow/like similar niches. I tend to believe that a good following base to 2.0 websites is just as valuable as backlinks.
WG

This is what I do in a nutshell. :thumbsup

mopek1 12-22-2023 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 23212473)



This is what I do in a nutshell. :thumbsup [Web 2.0 links]

Which web 2.0 platforms do you use and recommend?

Mr Pheer 12-22-2023 02:28 PM

Is GSA still a thing?

NoWhErE 12-22-2023 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 23212611)
Is GSA still a thing?

Not really

NoWhErE 12-22-2023 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23196659)
I'd just cut the GSA spam comments in your flow chart and work on getting quality web 2.0 links. Upload good quality content to web 2.0, then follow/like similar niches. I tend to believe that a good following base to 2.0 websites is just as valuable as backlinks.
WG

Out of curiosity, do you buy your web 2.0 properties or have some sort of structure in place to build them?

In my experience its a time consuming effort that can be a total waste of time if not done right

mrmister 12-22-2023 06:01 PM

ok can someone enlighten me to what the hell web 2.0 properties are? Sounds like I'm living in 2010.

Mr Pheer 12-22-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23212654)
ok can someone enlighten me to what the hell web 2.0 properties are? Sounds like I'm living in 2010.

They didn't really get popular till 2012.

mopek1 12-23-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23212654)
ok can someone enlighten me to what the hell web 2.0 properties are? Sounds like I'm living in 2010.

Web 2.0 properties from my understanding are; blogs from tumblr, blogspot, weebly (+ thousands more), a reddit sub, a FB or Twitter page etc... in other words social media properties.

You build them up, meaning have lots of followers and likes (links to the property), and then link out to your own sites.

The risk is that years of work and can be deleted in seconds by some moody employee or a sudden change ("in order to serve you better,") in policy.

mrmister 12-23-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23212739)
Web 2.0 properties from my understanding are; blogs from tumblr, blogspot, weebly (+ thousands more), a reddit sub, a FB or Twitter page etc... in other words social media properties.

You build them up, meaning have lots of followers and likes (links to the property), and then link out to your own sites.

The risk is that years of work and can be deleted in seconds by some moody employee or a sudden change ("in order to serve you better,") in policy.

Aren't they usually no follow though?

WiredGuy 12-23-2023 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 23212649)
Out of curiosity, do you buy your web 2.0 properties or have some sort of structure in place to build them?

In my experience its a time consuming effort that can be a total waste of time if not done right

I build everything myself.

Its extremely time consuming and very delicate, one wrong move can get the account terminated. If done right, its a great source of traffic, has the ability to go viral as other people share/like your content, and shows to Google natural and organic growth.
WG

WiredGuy 12-23-2023 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23212741)
Aren't they usually no follow though?

A lot of web 2.0 sites are nofollow, but a lot of them allow for customizing the html template or footer/headers and those are dofollow (blog platforms mostly). Even if its nofollow, there is a social metric that is valuable to have and is quite meaningful to Google.
WG

mopek1 12-23-2023 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23212750)
(blog platforms mostly).
WG

Do you recommend any besides Tumblr and Blogspot that actually have traffic?

trevesty 12-27-2023 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23212874)
Do you recommend any besides Tumblr and Blogspot that actually have traffic?

It isn't about the traffic you may or may not generate from these properties. As soon as you get this ridiculous idea out of your head, you will start to do marginally better with SEO. :thumbsup

WiredGuy 12-27-2023 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23212874)
Do you recommend any besides Tumblr and Blogspot that actually have traffic?

Its more about the backlink than the traffic. Tumblr for all intensive purposes is a dead site, but its a do-follow link from a good DA site. Even if 0 people come to the site from Tumblr, its a valuable signal to Google.
WG

The Porn Nerd 12-27-2023 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23213842)
Its more about the backlink than the traffic. Tumblr for all intensive purposes is a dead site, but its a do-follow link from a good DA site. Even if 0 people come to the site from Tumblr, its a valuable signal to Google.
WG

Perhaps there should be a Master List of sites that offer quality backlinks so we can all submit there and get that sweet, sweet SEO Google juice. :thumbsup

PS: I wonder if I started calling all my cumshots 'Google juice' if that would help me rank higher. I mean, it has the word 'goo' in there right?

mrmister 12-27-2023 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23213854)
Perhaps there should be a Master List of sites that offer quality backlinks so we can all submit there and get that sweet, sweet SEO Google juice. :thumbsup

PS: I wonder if I started calling all my cumshots 'Google juice' if that would help me rank higher. I mean, it has the word 'goo' in there right?

There's thousands of sites with quality backlinks

Essentially any site that gets a decent amount of SEO traffic is worth it in my experience. Use semrush.

A site that gets non is worthless. If it doesn't rank for anything why would it help you rank?

mopek1 12-27-2023 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 23213829)
It isn't about the traffic you may or may not generate from these properties. As soon as you get this ridiculous idea out of your head, you will start to do marginally better with SEO. :thumbsup

See my answer to Wired Guy below.

mopek1 12-27-2023 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23213842)
Its more about the backlink than the traffic. Tumblr for all intensive purposes is a dead site, but its a do-follow link from a good DA site. Even if 0 people come to the site from Tumblr, its a valuable signal to Google.
WG

I guess what I meant was ... if a blogging social media site has traffic (lots of users), then your created blog on that platform will hopefully generate lots of followers, with lots of likes and reblogs which are backlinks to that web 2.0 property of yours, which are signals of importance to Google. so it may value your web 2.0 blog higher than other web 2.0 blogs.

Otherwise, why not hire someone to create 1000 different accounts across many web 2.0 properties with an article, and a hardlink in the article to your PBN or money site?

mrmister 12-27-2023 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23213874)
I guess what I meant was ... if a blogging social media site has traffic (lots of users), then your created blog on that platform will hopefully generate lots of followers, with lots of likes and reblogs which are backlinks to that web 2.0 property of yours, which are signals of importance to Google. so it may value your web 2.0 blog higher than other web 2.0 blogs.

Otherwise, why not hire someone to create 1000 different accounts across many web 2.0 properties with an article, and a hardlink in the article to your PBN or money site?

Google would probably see that as unnatural. Especially if it came really quickly. The only sites that get that sort of traction are the big sites really. So for bigcocks.xyz or some shit they would probably just think it's a paid for campaign

mrmister 12-27-2023 08:45 PM

There's a webcam site in my niche which is number 1-3 for all search terms. His site is from 2018 and his sub pages are ranking higher than my site

His script is basic and design is poor. He's had this ranking for four years

How has he done this? His ahrefs backlink checker shows no links apart from the usual scraper sites

Semrush says they have 15 refering domains

WiredGuy 12-27-2023 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23213899)
There's a webcam site in my niche which is number 1-3 for all search terms. His site is from 2018 and his sub pages are ranking higher than my site

His script is basic and design is poor. He's had this ranking for four years

How has he done this? His ahrefs backlink checker shows no links apart from the usual scraper sites

Semrush says they have 15 refering domains

Can you share the url or DM me?
WG

WiredGuy 12-27-2023 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23213874)

Otherwise, why not hire someone to create 1000 different accounts across many web 2.0 properties with an article, and a hardlink in the article to your PBN or money site?

The article should be slightly different to avoid duplicate content, but it does work to get web 2.0 sites ranked well.
WG

mrmister 12-27-2023 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23213909)
Can you share the url or DM me?
WG

Sure I will do

WiredGuy 12-27-2023 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23213917)
Sure I will do

:thumbsup

trevesty 12-28-2023 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23213874)
I guess what I meant was ... if a blogging social media site has traffic (lots of users), then your created blog on that platform will hopefully generate lots of followers, with lots of likes and reblogs which are backlinks to that web 2.0 property of yours, which are signals of importance to Google. so it may value your web 2.0 blog higher than other web 2.0 blogs.

Otherwise, why not hire someone to create 1000 different accounts across many web 2.0 properties with an article, and a hardlink in the article to your PBN or money site?

None of what you're saying is a bad thing necessarily. The 1,000 different accounts may be overkill depending(how quickly were they created / link to PBN or money site added, unique article(s), etc).

My point is that these aren't KPIs you should concern yourself with for this goal. If you make 10 Web 2.0 properties linking to your PBN / money site / whatever method you decide to use and 2 of them become insanely popular (relatively speaking) then that's just a bonus, but don't focus on it. It's about the back link. Any other benefits you gain are merely a bonus, not a goal.

$5 submissions 12-28-2023 10:27 PM

Rule of thumb: the page you're linking to must add value to the page you're linking from

emmasexytime 12-29-2023 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23213854)
Perhaps there should be a Master List of sites that offer quality backlinks so we can all submit there and get that sweet, sweet SEO Google juice. :thumbsup

PS: I wonder if I started calling all my cumshots 'Google juice' if that would help me rank higher. I mean, it has the word 'goo' in there right?

SOME... are quality :1orglaugh
https://nichepornsites.com/the-compl...of-porn-lists/
:thumbsup

mopek1 12-29-2023 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23213842)
Tumblr for all intensive purposes is a dead site, but its a do-follow link from a good DA site. Even if 0 people come to the site from Tumblr, its a valuable signal to Google.
WG

Do you use your time to update your Tumblr blog regularly? Or do you just create an account, write one article with a dofollow backlink to your PBN, then move on to create another account and rinse and repeat?

WiredGuy 12-29-2023 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23214307)
Do you use your time to update your Tumblr blog regularly? Or do you just create an account, write one article with a dofollow backlink to your PBN, then move on to create another account and rinse and repeat?

Publish and forget it doesn't really work on web 2.0 sites.
WG

mopek1 12-29-2023 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23214366)
Publish and forget it doesn't really work on web 2.0 sites.
WG

Okay, so you have to work your web 2.0 blog as you would a website that you own, with regular updated quality content, so Google sees it as a valuable ink source.

Thanks.

WiredGuy 12-29-2023 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23214376)
Okay, so you have to work your web 2.0 blog as you would a website that you own, with regular updated quality content, so Google sees it as a valuable ink source.

Thanks.

There are scheduling tools and apps that will help you post content on a regular basis so you don't need to login every day to each platform.
WG

mopek1 12-29-2023 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 23214382)
There are scheduling tools and apps that will help you post content on a regular basis so you don't need to login every day to each platform.
WG

Thanks. I'll have to look into those. If I created 20 web 2.0 properties and needed to update them daily then yeah, I'd need some automation.


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