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just a punk 11-17-2023 03:45 PM

Sam Altman
 
so fucnkin' fired :batman


NatalieK 11-17-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by just a punk (Post 23199957)
so fucnkin' fired :batman

he says...

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i loved my time at openai. it was transformative for me personally, and hopefully the world a little bit. most of all i loved working with such talented people.
https://twitter.com/sama


can´t really be all that bad :upsidedow

EddyTheDog 11-17-2023 04:16 PM

I was just going to post this - Massive news!..

MaDalton 11-17-2023 05:09 PM

He lost the trust of the board, something massive must have happened

Klen 11-18-2023 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23199998)
He lost the trust of the board, something massive must have happened

On FB ai groups people says how it was because he was "too honest" and not focused on max $$$ grabbing.

lockept93 11-18-2023 01:10 AM

First they talk everybody will loose their job cause AI. That the biggest AI CEO is the first victim could nobody predict :1orglaugh

MaDalton 11-18-2023 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Klen (Post 23200097)
On FB ai groups people says how it was because he was "too honest" and not focused on max $$$ grabbing.

From an article I am reading:

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Altman will step down as CEO of OpenAI and leave the Board of Directors, the company announced. Mira Murati, former Chief Technology Officer, will take over. The reason: after internal reviews, it was concluded that Altman "was not consistently open in his communication with the board". In other words: he lied. This had hindered the work of the Management Board and led to a loss of trust in Altman.
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Some reports, which refer to unnamed sources, say that Altman worked too hard to make a profit instead of ensuring that OpenAI develops safe AI. The accusation could be summarized as Altman putting business before science.
Which is exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

MaDalton 11-18-2023 06:30 AM

Also this:

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Three senior researchers at OpenAI resigned Friday night as the artificial intelligence developer suffered fallout from the firing of CEO Sam Altman and sudden resignation of President Greg Brockman, according to several people with knowledge of the situation.

Jakub Pachocki, the company’s director of research; Aleksander Madry, head of a team evaluating potential risks from AI, and Szymon Sidor, a seven-year researcher at the startup, told associates they had resigned, these people said.

just a punk 11-18-2023 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23200151)
Which is exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

Because...

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41EFzmKtt0L.jpg

We won't know how it really was and what really happened there :2 cents:

I think Sam Altman has overestimated the capabilities of their GPT models in the public sphere. The product is still too raw to make a real revolution in society. I think the companies that rushed to fire people and replace them with GPT have already regretted it, and now they have grievances against OpenAI. GPT is just a language model that can be useful for certain tasks, but only as an assistant. I'd like to say that it's useful to an engineer in the same way that a simple calculator is useful, but even that might be premature. It makes too many mistakes and messes up on tasks where your cat would do a much better job. Overall, GPT is a nice toy, but nothing more.

MaDalton 11-18-2023 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 23199998)
He lost the trust of the board, something massive must have happened

Well, question solved - he molested his sister

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDcz...m-has-severely

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"I experienced sexual, physical, emotional, verbal, financial, and technological abuse from my biological siblings, mostly Sam Altman and some from Jack Altman."

DVTimes 11-18-2023 06:23 PM


just a punk 11-19-2023 11:35 AM

Will he stevejobse OpenAI? :winkwink:

Huggles 11-19-2023 11:44 AM

I have a schizo theory that AI will become so powerful, but the way they will monetize it and control it is through making an AI-coin that is equal to the value of .0001 milliseconds of AI processing or something. This way, you have to buy a ton of coins for your particular AI you want to use, and as the AI scales up and grows more powerful, the coin is worth more because people need the coins to spend on fractions of fractions of a second of processing power of these amazing AI networks designed to excel at certain tasks.

Then you could trade your coins for coins of another AI designed to do other things.

Think of a trucking/warehouse company with human drivers but AI safeguards... like the AI watches the "dashcam" of the truck/forklift and keeps an eye on the driver, but in an emergency situation the AI can take over and use the massive processing power and hit the brakes, steer the vehicle, or otherwise control the situation until a competent human being can take over again. The AI will always be watching and "take control" of situations to mitigate losses by human error, but it will cost you some of your AI coins... but, in theory, the AI will still save you money by being quick enough to react to situations and prevent total losses that otherwise would have occurred via human error.

Then you'd have insurance companies and banks that won't fund your business unless you have these AI safeguards in place. Think about at a public pool or something, the lifeguard job is still there, but the AI will be watching via cameras to surveil the entire pool and alert a human to any subtle signs of drowning that the human lifeguard might miss. Shit like that.

I know, the above sounds crazy, but imagine if you told someone 50 years ago that people would all have a smartphone and pay $15 a month to beat off to a woman who pisses her pants in public, nobody would've believed you either!

just a punk 11-19-2023 12:43 PM

You should sell it to some Hollywood studio as an action/dramatic sci-fi movie script. 1% of the earned money to me for the idea :Graucho

Huggles 11-19-2023 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by just a punk (Post 23200489)
You should sell it to some Hollywood studio as an action/dramatic sci-fi movie script. 1% of the earned money to me for the idea :Graucho

I've already been writing the above as the plot to my 3rd book that I've been working on for months, but there is a Sam Bankman-Friedesque twist...

Huggles 11-19-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by just a punk (Post 23200191)
The product is still too raw to make a real revolution in society.

The "Internet of things" all running in sync with the AI would be able to see two cars driving towards each other, detect it in the fraction of a second, and then tell the computer controlling one of the EVs to hit the brakes and avoid the t-bone collision... shit like that will become normal and routine in our world when the AI rises up as our benevolent ruler...

Huggles 11-19-2023 01:07 PM

Just imagine an AI-powered dating app, this has 100% NOT been made yet as far as I know:

1. Install a dating app
2. Dating app observes your life through detecting what you're doing, what you talk about, where you shop, how you spend, synced to your health app it also reads your sleeping patterns, relative health, age, etc etc...
3. Dating app at NO POINT shows you any profile photos or anything.
4. Dating app makes suggestions for times and places where other singles, both on and off the app, who are most compatible with your lifestyle will be.
5. Dating app literally steers people to cross each others' paths without directly naming anyone using the app
6. Dating app could have some sort of low vibration mode or visual queue for you when you're physically near someone of "your type" and encourage you to talk to women/men around you without revealing who has the app running

That's just off the top of my head, the more you keep the app running and the more you allow it to spy on your entire life, it learns more about you and works to pair you with someone as compatible as possible. I mean, even if it didn't work and was a shit app, people would sign up to give it a try for sure and someone could make a fortune off it!

EddyTheDog 11-19-2023 02:10 PM

I am just hearing that he could be coming back as CEO of Open AI - WTF?..

CaptainHowdy 11-19-2023 03:23 PM

AI drama woooooo . . .

Huggles 11-19-2023 03:35 PM

Why don't they just ask the AI what they should do about the situation?

AmeliaG 11-19-2023 03:43 PM

It is a fairly inexperienced board, and everyone is being fairly tight-lipped about what happened, so there might be fire where this smoke is, or it could be an overreaction to something unimportant. Or Altman might just have grown board, as he has a piece of so many other projects that he apparently didn't even bother to own a piece of Open AI.

EddyTheDog 11-19-2023 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 23200519)
I am just hearing that he could be coming back as CEO of Open AI - WTF?..

I heard right - Sam is back as CEO...

$5 submissions 11-19-2023 08:04 PM

Yet another reminder: if you're not a majority owner or control a majority bloc, you might get booted out by PLAYER HATERZ!

just a punk 11-19-2023 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23200535)
Why don't they just ask the AI what they should do about the situation?

I asked yesterday. It said that if OpenAI makes such impulsive decisions, it indicates that the company may have a serious leadership problem and this could cause instability and possible problems for the end users...

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 23200519)
I am just hearing that he could be coming back as CEO of Open AI - WTF?..

See my question above:

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Originally Posted by just a punk (Post 23200468)
Will he stevejobse OpenAI? :winkwink:


EddyTheDog 11-20-2023 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 23200570)
I heard right - Sam is back as CEO...

lol - I was misinformed - Sam is at MS - OMG!..

Killswitch 11-20-2023 09:29 AM

OpenAI is dead, Sam and Greg went to Microsoft, 550+ of the 700 employees will go with. Ilya may get brought over, not sure as he was apart of the board members ousting him.

This will go down in history no doubt, maybe even talked about in the same way Jobs got talked about after Scully ousted him from Apple.

Huggles 11-20-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 23200756)
OpenAI is dead, Sam and Greg went to Microsoft, 550+ of the 700 employees will go with.

Microsoft fucking neutered the bing create... they are woke as fuck and will make AI absolutely shite.

Tasty1 11-20-2023 12:06 PM

Probably sent some dick pics.

$5 submissions 11-20-2023 06:24 PM

I wonder how much of OPEN AI is his own innovation or is he more of the SALESMAN for the technology like Steve Jobs was for Apple

Killswitch 11-21-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 23200909)
I wonder how much of OPEN AI is his own innovation or is he more of the SALESMAN for the technology like Steve Jobs was for Apple

Sam is just a salesman.

Klen 11-22-2023 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 23200570)
I heard right - Sam is back as CEO...

Looks like you were right lol
https://cybernews.com/news/sam-altma...ns-openai-ceo/

King Mark 11-23-2023 06:01 AM

This was a wild few days for OpenAI. My heart broke a few times during this adventure, especially the other night when ChatGPT wasn't working. Glad it's sorted.

Mr Pheer 11-23-2023 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23200497)
The "Internet of things" all running in sync with the AI would be able to see two cars driving towards each other, detect it in the fraction of a second, and then tell the computer controlling one of the EVs to hit the brakes and avoid the t-bone collision... shit like that will become normal and routine in our world when the AI rises up as our benevolent ruler...

It wouldn't be able to do fast enough, because first it would have to set up an account with the other computer and then pass 2-Factor Authentication.

rowan 11-23-2023 10:48 PM

Altman said a few months ago he's accountable because the board has the power to fire him.

We now know that doesn't actually work in practice

Killswitch 11-23-2023 10:52 PM

Some of the conspiracy theories around the whole thing are pretty interesting.

Apparently there's subliminal messaging in some of Sam's tweets.

For example in the one where he said "I Love You All" apparently that was code word for ILYA, aka Ilya Sutskever, and his message basically is saying Ilya betrayed him or something.

DVTimes 11-24-2023 04:29 AM


Killswitch 11-24-2023 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 23202169)

Good to see Jeff back.

Rochard 11-24-2023 08:58 PM

One of the most important rules in the business world is that everyone is replaceable. However, every now and then there are exceptions to the rules. It seems like Sam Altman was more important to the company than the board understood.

I don't know much about ChatpGPT and even less about Sam Altman, but it seems to me ChaptGPT came out of no where and dominated AI. It's no surprise that other companies wanted to snag him.

Killswitch 11-26-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 23202553)
but it seems to me ChaptGPT came out of no where and dominated AI.

Eight years is far from "out of nowhere" and Sam wasn't really an unknown before starting OpenAI. He was president of YCombinator and was a highly public figure in Silicon Valley.


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