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Wtify 01-13-2024 08:33 AM

Lows sales?
 
Hello,

it's just me or this week - week end included - is total disaster?

:helpme

Brian mike 01-13-2024 10:16 AM

January = Holliday spending CC BILLS need to be paid

Cost of Living WAY HIGHER than usual. :2 cents:

Where you've been the last few years :1orglaugh

Wtify 01-13-2024 10:52 AM

Making money in Jan, and you? Still asking to check sites for sale and then complaining about the price saying that you would do it yourself for 10% of the asked price?

Brian mike 01-13-2024 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wtify (Post 23219963)
Making money in Jan, and you? Still asking to check sites for sale and then complaining about the price saying that you would do it yourself for 10% of the asked price?

I see who you are now that i dig in your post history ....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wtify (Post 23208544)
As explained I was too quick in my description ... I took the stats for the first 2 days and projected for the whole month.

Btw I'm going to keep it for me since I have found a biller.

the delusional here i think it is you https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/1...h-website.html

you are Such a genius...

Next :clown

mikeylikesit 01-13-2024 11:46 AM

total disaster, the end is nigh, and about to get worse as the US is in a "politics are for dummies" cycle that ain't gonna end until after our hellection :throwup

Wtify 01-13-2024 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 23219969)
I see who you are now that i dig in your post history ....


the delusional here i think it is you https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/1...h-website.html

you are Such a genius...

Next :clown

You never contacted me about that :1orglaugh lol

Wtify 01-13-2024 01:29 PM

Double edit

CaptainHowdy 01-13-2024 03:04 PM

Keep on pushing, man . . .

sandman! 01-13-2024 03:51 PM

Jan sales suck for everything

Erobits 01-13-2024 05:46 PM

You're welcome https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...es-2024-a.html

Rochard 01-13-2024 05:55 PM

Post Christmas slump. Every January.

mikeet 01-13-2024 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 23220077)
Post Christmas slump. Every January.


:2 cents:

adultinnovation 01-14-2024 02:08 AM

no one spends money after the holidays

plsureking 01-14-2024 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeylikesit (Post 23219982)
total disaster, the end is nigh, and about to get worse as the US is in a "politics are for dummies" cycle that ain't gonna end until after our hellection :throwup

FED, banks, and govt will pump up the dollar all year, we might even see some sort of stimulus closer to the election. the economy will be propped up until after the election, then the vapor will dissipate.

so 24 will be fine but it will be all on credit. i'd prepare for the next one. whoever wins the US election, the "world" as we know it will probably end.

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TheLegacy 01-14-2024 07:04 AM

My clients sales are up - perhaps you need to adjust your strategy ahead of time for the possibility of difficult months. Yet over the years I've heard sales are down because - "it's christmas or it's a holiday or summer everyone is out - from back to school to tax seaon everyone attempts to create a false narrative on low sales. NOTE the world does not operate on American calendar or events.

Now January on a webmaster side is difficult because many are at a trade show.

amacontent 01-14-2024 07:39 AM

My sales are up thankyou

The Porn Nerd 01-14-2024 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23220212)
My clients sales are up - perhaps you need to adjust your strategy ahead of time for the possibility of difficult months. Yet over the years I've heard sales are down because - "it's christmas or it's a holiday or summer everyone is out - from back to school to tax seaon everyone attempts to create a false narrative on low sales. NOTE the world does not operate on American calendar or events.

Now January on a webmaster side is difficult because many are at a trade show.

Well, America is still the #1 market for online sales so when the US sees a slump, even if the rest of the world is 'normal', it still reduces sales significantly.

As for the trade shows: there are no 'webmasters' there like me. LOL Trade shows are filled with Billers, Cam Studios, Traffic Brokers and Dating shills. The sales that come from these places roll on regardless of the shows.

No, this January is worse than any since 2014 (according to my years of sales stats).

:2 cents:

OneHungLo 01-14-2024 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23220212)
My clients sales are up - perhaps you need to adjust your strategy ahead of time for the possibility of difficult months. Yet over the years I've heard sales are down because - "it's christmas or it's a holiday or summer everyone is out - from back to school to tax seaon everyone attempts to create a false narrative on low sales. NOTE the world does not operate on American calendar or events.

Now January on a webmaster side is difficult because many are at a trade show.

When most of the sales come from America, the word does run on the American calendar. And there are no webmasters at trade shows lol. Are you even in this business?

OneHungLo 01-14-2024 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23220236)
Well, America is still the #1 market for online sales so when the US sees a slump, even if the rest of the world is 'normal', it still reduces sales significantly.

As for the trade shows: there are no 'webmasters' there like me. LOL Trade shows are filled with Billers, Cam Studios, Traffic Brokers and Dating shills. The sales that come from these places roll on regardless of the shows.

No, this January is worse than any since 2014 (according to my years of sales stats).

:2 cents:

Thank you. He is really clueless.

TheSenator 01-14-2024 01:19 PM

Got 2 sale with AdultForce and 1 signup with MadCheddar VixenPlus.

I'm rolling in dough.

plsureking 01-14-2024 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 23220253)
When most of the sales come from America, the word does run on the American calendar. And there are no webmasters at trade shows lol. Are you even in this business?

another used-to-be hanging around here like DVTimes commenting as much as possible. if i wasn't active in this industry anymore, i sure as fuck wouldn't hang around gfy :1orglaugh

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Irishoz 01-15-2024 03:23 AM

Slowest January in 7 years here.

Wtify 01-15-2024 03:43 AM

FYI the fact that I forgot to move to the new server the linking domain hasn't halped ... all people willing to buy got a 404 lol

bufferover 01-15-2024 06:41 AM

Even for January is really slow, but i hope things will bump up next month.

2MuchMark 01-15-2024 08:16 AM

OneHungLo: I am pretty sure that TheLegacy possesses greater experience and access to a broader range of statistics than you do. I've had the privilege of knowing Legacy for quite some time, and he is a very valuable source of information and insights to his clients. It would greatly benefit you to take into account what he freely offers here and consider listening to his perspective.

As for the January sales slump, of course it will be different for everyone. If your sales usually drop in January, it could be due to slow traffic and less interest, but it could also be due to the fact that your own product has not been refreshed since December. Any service provider can boost their sales back up by offering some new content, or discount, or both. Even boosting sales and marketing can easily help.

The only ones who would know for sure if sales drop in January, are the payment processors, as they see ALL of the data at a glance. If your sales are down, call your CCBill rep and ask him if it is typical or not.

Good luck!

czarina 01-15-2024 09:23 AM

slow for everybody, it is January, and January lasts like 100 days :)

The Porn Nerd 01-15-2024 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23220509)
OneHungLo: I am pretty sure that TheLegacy possesses greater experience and access to a broader range of statistics than you do. I've had the privilege of knowing Legacy for quite some time, and he is a very valuable source of information and insights to his clients. It would greatly benefit you to take into account what he freely offers here and consider listening to his perspective.

As for the January sales slump, of course it will be different for everyone. If your sales usually drop in January, it could be due to slow traffic and less interest, but it could also be due to the fact that your own product has not been refreshed since December. Any service provider can boost their sales back up by offering some new content, or discount, or both. Even boosting sales and marketing can easily help.

The only ones who would know for sure if sales drop in January, are the payment processors, as they see ALL of the data at a glance. If your sales are down, call your CCBill rep and ask him if it is typical or not.

Good luck!

If his 'perspective' is that Holidays in America do not affect overall sales then his 'perspective' is pure shit and he doesn't know what he is talking about. Glad you find his insights valuable but I tend to find his posts a bit out of touch, more general in his comments like some AI bot. No thanks. I will rely on my own 15+ years of sales experience (and statistics).

Oh - and contacting the Biller to ask how OTHER companies' sales are going through the Biller...yeah that will happen. LOL "Everything is great!" would be the useless answer. Besides, would you want a Biller revealing your sales info to another client?

Man January is bringing out the stupid this year. :helpme

TheLegacy 01-15-2024 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23220554)
If his 'perspective' is that Holidays in America do not affect overall sales then his 'perspective' is pure shit and he doesn't know what he is talking about. Glad you find his insights valuable but I tend to find his posts a bit out of touch, more general in his comments like some AI bot. No thanks. I will rely on my own 15+ years of sales experience (and statistics).

Oh - and contacting the Biller to ask how OTHER companies' sales are going through the Biller...yeah that will happen. LOL "Everything is great!" would be the useless answer. Besides, would you want a Biller revealing your sales info to another client?

Man January is bringing out the stupid this year. :helpme


and I rely on my 31+ years of sales/marketing and SEO experience and statistics - that's twice as many as you've been in this industry.

Do sales drop? yes. Do sales drop for my clients? No. That's what I was saying

Do you need me to connect any dots for you? Maybe I need to since you feel my posts are out of touch - perhaps they are just going over your head.

2MuchMark 01-15-2024 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23220554)
If his 'perspective' is that Holidays in America do not affect overall sales then his 'perspective' is pure shit and he doesn't know what he is talking about. Glad you find his insights valuable but I tend to find his posts a bit out of touch, more general in his comments like some AI bot. No thanks. I will rely on my own 15+ years of sales experience (and statistics).

Oh - and contacting the Biller to ask how OTHER companies' sales are going through the Biller...yeah that will happen. LOL "Everything is great!" would be the useless answer. Besides, would you want a Biller revealing your sales info to another client?

Man January is bringing out the stupid this year. :helpme

PornNerd, My previous statement didn't suggest that billers would inform you about other businesses. Instead, I indicated that your processor could provide information about whether your situation is typical or not.

You mentioned relying on your own 15+ years of experience in sales and statistics. However, this approach has a flaw. Despite accumulating over a decade and a half of experience, it essentially offers you a sample size of just one porn site (or just one porn company, or just one porn producer, you). In simpler terms, your perspective is based solely on the statistics of a single company or person, rather than drawing insights from multiple businesses (a larger and more diverse sample). In contrast, TheLegacy by default, possesses a larger dataset on pornsite traffic and sales than you do, and therefore, his opinion may matter more than yours. You can learn from him. Even experts can learn from other experts my friend.

Additionally, if you've been collecting statistics for 15 years, you may have observed a historical pattern of sales slumping in January. With this information, you could make informed predictions that each January will likely be slower. Why not take proactive measures to prepare for it? If your website traffic decreases, consider implementing strategies to boost it such as improved SEO, or Paid traffic, or even some crappy Twitter traffic. Similarly, if your sales drop, you could contemplate offering special promotions or discounts to counteract the downturn, couldn't you? Offer 2 months for the price of one, and call it the "January Sales Sucks Special". :)

Peace.

The Porn Nerd 01-15-2024 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23220567)
and I rely on my 31+ years of sales/marketing and SEO experience and statistics - that's twice as many as you've been in this industry.

Do sales drop? yes. Do sales drop for my clients? No. That's what I was saying

Do you need me to connect any dots for you? Maybe I need to since you feel my posts are out of touch - perhaps they are just going over your head.

I am not interested in getting into a pissing match with someone who has twice the experience I have yet still somehow manages to offer simple generic advice I can find on any forum, chat room or AI generator. You say your clients do not see sales drops in January yet do not mention who your clients are (see what I mean by generic?) so who knows if they even operate paysites, are into cams, do EPC or PPC ad buys, etc etc. So is your perspective helpful on this topic - sales drop in January - I say no when all you offer is "Sales don't drop for my clients". Ok woohoo for you and your clients. LOL

Or was the above over your head? Don't insult me as I did not insult you, just your generalized unhelpful (to me) posts on this topic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23220583)
PornNerd, My previous statement didn't suggest that billers would inform you about other businesses. Instead, I indicated that your processor could provide information about whether your situation is typical or not.

You mentioned relying on your own 15+ years of experience in sales and statistics. However, this approach has a flaw. Despite accumulating over a decade and a half of experience, it essentially offers you a sample size of just one porn site (or just one porn company, or just one porn producer, you). In simpler terms, your perspective is based solely on the statistics of a single company or person, rather than drawing insights from multiple businesses (a larger and more diverse sample). In contrast, TheLegacy by default, possesses a larger dataset on pornsite traffic and sales than you do, and therefore, his opinion may matter more than yours. You can learn from him. Even experts can learn from other experts my friend.

Additionally, if you've been collecting statistics for 15 years, you may have observed a historical pattern of sales slumping in January. With this information, you could make informed predictions that each January will likely be slower. Why not take proactive measures to prepare for it? If your website traffic decreases, consider implementing strategies to boost it such as improved SEO, or Paid traffic, or even some crappy Twitter traffic. Similarly, if your sales drop, you could contemplate offering special promotions or discounts to counteract the downturn, couldn't you? Offer 2 months for the price of one, and call it the "January Sales Sucks Special". :)

Peace.

I'm sure he is an 'expert' on many things related to this Industry but for this topic his posts in this thread have NOT been helpful to me nor I suspect anyone.

As for asking Billers etc: I run almost 100 paysites and four Affiliate Programs. I have stats going back years for all these properties and I am saying THIS January is unusual. Is it a skewed persepctive I alone share with my myopic view of only my stats? Obviously not, thus this thread.

And finally I appreciate your helpful suggestions on how to increase traffic but if I have survived all this time don't you think I have done all you suggest and 10x more? Besides, I didn't say this was a traffic issue. Traffic is about the same, even up a little. Again it's about conversions and actual sales being down.

Peace to everyone. :)

2MuchMark 01-15-2024 05:58 PM

PornNerd,

I didn't know that you were running 100 sites. That's impressive man, good jerb.

So here's a question for you: Can you look at your data, all of your traffic, all of your sales etc, and see if you can't find out why sales are slower in January? We can all take guesses at the reasons why, but since you have that data, what does it tell you? What CAN it tell you?

If you want to share it with me, I can help you to figure it out. I'll even sign an NDA or some other agreement if you want. It could be really interesting...

plsureking 01-15-2024 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23220628)
I am not interested in getting into a pissing match with someone who has twice the experience I have yet still somehow manages to offer simple generic advice I can find on any forum, chat room or AI generator.

Peace to everyone. :)

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

DVTimes is in the same boat. they never have anything original to say, but post a lot.

attention attention! your sales are down because fewer customers are spending money! i'm a legend now.

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The Porn Nerd 01-15-2024 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23220669)
PornNerd,

I didn't know that you were running 100 sites. That's impressive man, good jerb.

So here's a question for you: Can you look at your data, all of your traffic, all of your sales etc, and see if you can't find out why sales are slower in January? We can all take guesses at the reasons why, but since you have that data, what does it tell you? What CAN it tell you?

If you want to share it with me, I can help you to figure it out. I'll even sign an NDA or some other agreement if you want. It could be really interesting...

Nothing secretive about it really but you have to have enough consistent volume to make sense of any such data. But what the data tells me is THIS January is especially slow compared to previous years. This is unusual (for me and my business) so I had to go outside the normal data set to get a clue.

Short answer: due in part to Covid fatique people spent like drunken sailors in 2023 on travel, credit cards, gifts, etc. But the overall economy is down so there is no room for these people to recover quickly as in past years. So they spend less.

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23220672)
:1orglaugh:thumbsup

DVTimes is in the same boat. they never have anything original to say, but post a lot.

attention attention! your sales are down because fewer customers are spending money! i'm a legend now.

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Genius! :1orglaugh

Sign me up for your Consulting biz bro. I need in-depth analysis like this ASAP. :)

OneHungLo 01-15-2024 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23220392)
another used-to-be hanging around here like DVTimes commenting as much as possible. if i wasn't active in this industry anymore, i sure as fuck wouldn't hang around gfy :1orglaugh

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Exactly. Windbag spewing nonsense to get a sig view in.

2MuchMark 01-16-2024 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23220713)
Nothing secretive about it really but you have to have enough consistent volume to make sense of any such data. But what the data tells me is THIS January is especially slow compared to previous years. This is unusual (for me and my business) so I had to go outside the normal data set to get a clue.

Short answer: due in part to Covid fatique people spent like drunken sailors in 2023 on travel, credit cards, gifts, etc. But the overall economy is down so there is no room for these people to recover quickly as in past years. So they spend less.

Well, maybe it is Covid related, but are you sure?

If I were you I would look at the following:

- Is my traffic volume more or less the same?
- Are my traffic sources the same?
- Is the frequency of my new content publishing the same?
- Is the quality of my new content the same level as previous content?
- Has the interests of my customers shifted? (Are you asking them?)
- Do my customers have about the same amount of disposable income as they have in the past?
- Is there new types of content (Instagram / TikTok) they are more interested in?
- Are my competitors out-performing me? If so, how?
- Is my website under-performing in SEO?
- Etc...

My point is that yes of course, Covid is probably partially responsible. Some people lost work, others are spending more money on other things, probably lots of babies were born post-covid and now parents have new costs associated with those little buggers, etc. But since you have all of that data, don't you owe it to yourself as an employee of your own company to dig through it? Maybe you will find something out that you can fix, and then boost your sales.

Sorry to press you on this - I love data. If I were you I would be buried in those numbers all nigth long. (Sorry ladies!)

Valentin 01-16-2024 08:35 AM

The sales are low indeed but also the SEO, link building, and partnerships where allways the keys to success .. those should not ever be ignored.

The Porn Nerd 01-16-2024 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23220907)
Well, maybe it is Covid related, but are you sure?

If I were you I would look at the following:

- Is my traffic volume more or less the same?
- Are my traffic sources the same?
- Is the frequency of my new content publishing the same?
- Is the quality of my new content the same level as previous content?
- Has the interests of my customers shifted? (Are you asking them?)
- Do my customers have about the same amount of disposable income as they have in the past?
- Is there new types of content (Instagram / TikTok) they are more interested in?
- Are my competitors out-performing me? If so, how?
- Is my website under-performing in SEO?
- Etc...

My point is that yes of course, Covid is probably partially responsible. Some people lost work, others are spending more money on other things, probably lots of babies were born post-covid and now parents have new costs associated with those little buggers, etc. But since you have all of that data, don't you owe it to yourself as an employee of your own company to dig through it? Maybe you will find something out that you can fix, and then boost your sales.

Sorry to press you on this - I love data. If I were you I would be buried in those numbers all nigth long. (Sorry ladies!)

All great questions and points! I too like digging into data but sometimes I get overwhelmed with numbers, numbers, numbers....lol

But all excellent points. In fact, these are things everyone should be focusing on regardless of the time of year or the sales volume.

:thumbsup

NatalieK 01-20-2024 04:50 PM

was hoping for a new boat this year...

looking the same as most years though, just ticking, is January :2 cents:

adultinnovation 01-21-2024 01:39 AM

broke fucks inside and outside the industry


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