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fastball 02-20-2024 10:37 PM

First Porn Site Ever was in 1994
 
This should start a good discussion from those who were around shortly after...

It’s hard to prove definitively, but it’s believed that the first porn site was sex.com. It was registered in 1994 by a guy named Gary Kremen. I wonder who was the first porn star on the internet.

Going back, and yes, that rhymes with semen. However… Gary did not have pornographic intentions with sex.com. At least that’s what he says today.

A guy named Stephen M. Cohen, which rhymes with bone (and “moan”… and “sex, phone” and “she moves her body like a cyclone”), DID see the pornographic potential of the domain. So he contacted Network Solutions, which administrated all domain names back then, and fraudulently had the ownership of sex.com transferred to his name using a series of fake faxes and forged documents.

He quickly turned it into a thriving, profitable and dirty porn site.

Kremen was furious, and sued Cohen. After a long court battle, Kremen won a $65 million judgment and got the rights to sex.com back. Before he could get the money, though, Cohen fled to Mexico and moved his money to an offshore account. They tracked him down in 2005 and turned over to U.S. authorities.

Kremen sold sex.com for $12 million. In between fighting for sex.com, he had the time to found match.com. Which, I’d guess, has led to exponentially more actual sex than sex.com.

czarina 02-22-2024 07:25 AM

I started in 1999. Those were the days! You could pick up the money from the floor... oh, I miss the old days of porn!

CaptainHowdy 02-22-2024 07:32 AM

Another "those were the days" type of thread . . .

So let us cease with our laments,
and chant our funeral songs no more.
For these events have all been preordained.

fastball 02-22-2024 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23236055)
Another "those were the days" type of thread . . .

So let us cease with our laments,
and chant our funeral songs no more.
For these events have all been preordained.

Not really. I was thinking of more historical stories than anyone has. This was very controversial at the time. Guys like Gonzo would know a lot. There are others as well.

fastball 02-22-2024 09:45 AM

Here is something you guys might be interested. It is the Oprano flat board from the turn of the century. There are some very influential names and interesting observations.

https://www.oprano.com/flatboard/oprano_flat_100.htm

wasteland 02-22-2024 10:00 AM

Here's our origin story, starting from our launch in 1994. It's on YNot.com as that is literally the only legacy adult news site that still does longer articles and not just porn company and performer news PR...
Enjoy!

Wasteland at 30: A Look Back with Adult Internet Pioneer Colin Rowntree
Posted On 10 Jan 2024

https://www.ynot.com/wasteland-30-look-back-adult-internet-pioneer-colin-rowntree/

djroof 02-22-2024 10:12 AM

5 years later found WorldSex and clicked the link in bottom $$ WEBMASTERS $$ and all starts ;)

fastball 02-22-2024 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 23236052)
I started in 1999. Those were the days! You could pick up the money from the floor... oh, I miss the old days of porn!

Those were the days you didn't bother about the money that fell on the floor. :GFYBand

Maqua 02-22-2024 11:48 AM

Anyone who had sex in their domain had to watch out ;)

Rochard 02-22-2024 01:24 PM

I started in 1997....

fris 02-22-2024 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 23236155)
I started in 1997....

xpics? ;)

King Mark 02-22-2024 06:48 PM

My first porn site was hosted on geocities after rubbing one out to some free porn and clicking that "webmaster" link at the bottom of the page that seemed like a hell of a title to have. I really didn't know WTF I was doing and was happy to have more free content to jack off to, but then checks started actually showing up in my mailbox and that lit a fire under my ass. Then I found some weird ass site called cozy frog or cozy campus or something and learned some cool shit. I found GFY a whole other way, that's another story.

fastball 02-22-2024 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasteland (Post 23236090)
Here's our origin story, starting from our launch in 1994. It's on YNot.com as that is literally the only legacy adult news site that still does longer articles and not just porn company and performer news PR...
Enjoy!

Wasteland at 30: A Look Back with Adult Internet Pioneer Colin Rowntree
Posted On 10 Jan 2024

https://www.ynot.com/wasteland-30-look-back-adult-internet-pioneer-colin-rowntree/

I was hoping you would show up, Colin. Great story.

AmeliaG 02-23-2024 12:50 PM

Does anyone remember the name of the sort of processor who let customers enter their check data and then the processor would snail mail you a stack of customer checks to deposit? Seemed like magic money circa like 1997.

I kind of think Dani from Dani's Hard Drive would have been the first internet talent star, although I recall Cindy Margolis contested this at the time.

I remember some of those earliest sites scanning my magazines to populate their members areas and my partner saying I should try this membership site thing, if there were businesses already making money with our content.

Huggles 02-23-2024 01:02 PM

I'll never forget posting a Gorilla Gras gallery as a joke, getting it listed randomly on Sperm Shack, and waking up to like $3000 in sales or something crazy I forget.

fastball 02-23-2024 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23236535)
Does anyone remember the name of the sort of processor who let customers enter their check data and then the processor would snail mail you a stack of customer checks to deposit? Seemed like magic money circa like 1997.

I kind of think Dani from Dani's Hard Drive would have been the first internet talent star, although I recall Cindy Margolis contested this at the time.

I remember some of those earliest sites scanning my magazines to populate their members areas and my partner saying I should try this membership site thing, if there were businesses already making money with our content.

That Dani vs Cindy was concocted by both of them. Kinda like what the Beatles and the Rolling Stones did.

lovebitch 02-23-2024 08:58 PM

I wish I was born in 80s

Huggles 02-23-2024 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovebitch (Post 23236688)
I wish I was born in 80s

The 80's, 90's, and most of the 00's were amazing!

Things STARTEED to get woke, stupid, and fucked up after about 2008-2013, once Treyvon Martin happened and a few other things like the Clockboy, the propaganda was ramped up to the point where people were brainwashed into only thinking "liberal vs conservative' and everything became fucked up. After 2015, EVERYTHING became political and stupid as fuck.

But after 2019 and COVID, the establishment and the big corporations decided that the plebs of this world were either going to support the establishment's endeavors to consolidate money and power, not resist the "vaccine", vote for the "correct" political parties, and, in general, submit to the conveyor belt process of impoverishing the average Joe in western nations and flood western nations with submissive foreigners who will vote for the parties that the establishment wants and dilute the populations of western nations so nobody complains about "how things used to be better", because immigrants from India and other places will never know how good things were in the 90's-00's when western people still had their own cultures and subcultures.

Now in 2024, at least in Canada, the culture here is so astroturfed, fake, and gay, it is nothing like it was 20 years ago. The entire socio-cultural landscape is completely different, and the #1 best career you could have in Canada is a slumlord. I wonder if Mark from GTS now owns 100+ properties and slumlords them out to all the Indian students? Being a slumlord is a guaranteed money maker!

fastball 02-23-2024 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23236693)
The 80's, 90's, and most of the 00's were amazing!

Things STARTEED to get woke, stupid, and fucked up after about 2008-2013, once Treyvon Martin happened and a few other things like the Clockboy, the propaganda was ramped up to the point where people were brainwashed into only thinking "liberal vs conservative' and everything became fucked up. After 2015, EVERYTHING became political and stupid as fuck.

But after 2019 and COVID, the establishment and the big corporations decided that the plebs of this world were either going to support the establishment's endeavors to consolidate money and power, not resist the "vaccine", vote for the "correct" political parties, and, in general, submit to the conveyor belt process of impoverishing the average Joe in western nations and flood western nations with submissive foreigners who will vote for the parties that the establishment wants and dilute the populations of western nations so nobody complains about "how things used to be better", because immigrants from India and other places will never know how good things were in the 90's-00's when western people still had their own cultures and subcultures.

Now in 2024, at least in Canada, the culture here is so astroturfed, fake, and gay, it is nothing like it was 20 years ago. The entire socio-cultural landscape is completely different, and the #1 best career you could have in Canada is a slumlord. I wonder if Mark from GTS now owns 100+ properties and slumlords them out to all the Indian students? Being a slumlord is a guaranteed money maker!

I think this post belongs in the Cracker Barrel.

Huggles 02-23-2024 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23236702)
I think this post belongs in the Cracker Barrel.

Meanwhile, if I put on a dress and called myself Jasmine, I'd be celebrated instead of lamenting about how modernity marches on in a direction that just seems... really devoid of soul

Look Chang 02-24-2024 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23236705)
Meanwhile, if I put on a dress and called myself Jasmine, I'd be celebrated instead of lamenting about how modernity marches on in a direction that just seems... really devoid of soul

That's an option . . . :stoned

https://cdn101.bdsmlr.com/uploads/ph...oxmUIUek9.jpeg

fastball 02-25-2024 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23236705)
Meanwhile, if I put on a dress and called myself Jasmine, I'd be celebrated instead of lamenting about how modernity marches on in a direction that just seems... really devoid of soul

so does this one.

2MuchMark 02-25-2024 09:26 AM

I started by printing these off and selling them for $2.00 to friends

https://video-images.vice.com/articl...-100440-AM.png

A few years later a friend show me the Internet for the first time using Winsock + TCP + NEtbios or something like that. and then Archie & Veronica to see web pages, and of course, Usenet. I made money downloading porn from Usenet and selling it to friends too...

I finally took it seriously when I started registering domains in 1998.

FUN!

Dugmor 02-26-2024 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 23236535)

I kind of think Dani from Dani's Hard Drive would have been the first internet talent star, although I recall Cindy Margolis contested this at the time.


https://carolcox.com/

I think CarolCox started before Dani and Cindy and I believe CarolCox was the first single girl paysite.

Of course, before that, there were fake single girl paysites like "Karas Adult Playground"

Maqua 02-26-2024 07:34 AM

Question for Dugmor :) is there any chance that you would know where I could buy the Webdreams series on DVD, I always enjoyed that show :thumbsup

Dugmor 02-26-2024 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maqua (Post 23237326)
Question for Dugmor :) is there any chance that you would know where I could buy the Webdreams series on DVD, I always enjoyed that show :thumbsup

I have them on a Google Drive I can send you a link to.

Of course, I edited out all the boring parts, so it is just me.

Maqua 02-26-2024 12:41 PM

You did make the series work :thumbsup I remember finding the episodes streaming a few years back then they vanished again, ahh the good days!!

2MuchMark 02-26-2024 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maqua (Post 23237326)
Question for Dugmor :) is there any chance that you would know where I could buy the Webdreams series on DVD, I always enjoyed that show :thumbsup

Dugmor and I were the best looking people on that show. Thats why it lasted 3 seasons! :D

RyuLion 02-26-2024 05:49 PM

I stated with technology out of High School in 95'
Worked on a Silicon Graphics Desktop while at the San Diego County Department of Technology. Then started with Busty2 in 2000.

fastball 02-27-2024 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23237443)
Dugmor and I were the best looking people on that show. Thats why it lasted 3 seasons! :D

Oh yeah, I remember that show now. They shot an entertainment show but called it a documentary and never paid the talent. I couldn't believe how many people got suckered. They blew through Vancouver as well. They wouldn't even allow product placement. I couldn't believe people fell for that. The only ones on the show that didn't get paid were the performers.
No one made a penny in publicity. I was very vocal about demanding payment, but people either were missionary about spreading the lifestyle or had stars in their eyes. Webdreams.


The action begins at Montreal’s 2Much.net, the brainchild of computer programmer Mark Prince. Prince is now a rich man, thanks to software he invented that allows for live streaming action on the net

Mr.Fiction 02-27-2024 06:41 AM

One year later, Persian Kitty would become one of the first public faces of the online porn industry.
https://www.wired.com/1997/06/the-en...eur-next-door/

Maqua 02-27-2024 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23237443)
Dugmor and I were the best looking people on that show. Thats why it lasted 3 seasons! :D

:thumbsup

Maqua 02-27-2024 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 23237674)
One year later, Persian Kitty would become one of the first public faces of the online porn industry.
https://www.wired.com/1997/06/the-en...eur-next-door/

PK's traffic purred :pimp:thumbsup

adultinnovation 02-27-2024 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Look Chang (Post 23236934)



I'm confused

Dugmor 02-27-2024 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23237443)
Dugmor and I were the best looking people on that show. Thats why it lasted 3 seasons! :D

And that is why we are the only ones still in business. :thumbsup

Dugmor 02-27-2024 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball (Post 23237619)
Oh yeah, I remember that show now. They shot an entertainment show but called it a documentary and never paid the talent. I couldn't believe how many people got suckered. They blew through Vancouver as well. They wouldn't even allow product placement. I couldn't believe people fell for that. The only ones on the show that didn't get paid were the performers.
No one made a penny in publicity. I was very vocal about demanding payment, but people either were missionary about spreading the lifestyle or had stars in their eyes. Webdreams.

If you couldn't understand how to parlay the exposure into making money, that is your own fault. Most of the "talent" had no talent.

allowed product placement. Malazia and I were sponsored by Von Dutch and got tens of thousands of dollars in Von Dutch merch that I can now sell in my vintage clothing store. I actually still fit in most of those outfits.

We really didn't need the show to make us money. I with the help of Jman introducing me to Jay Grdina and then Jay getting me a meeting with Steve Hirsch to introduce Malezia to secure her Vivid contract.

After that, every wannabe pornstar and feature dancer was contacting me to help them become stars. The JoinRightNow program got bigger than it already was. I eventually went on to work for Discovery Channel TV shows.

What did you actually do when they offered you to be on the show. How much did you want to get paid to be on the show?

Dugmor 02-27-2024 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 23237504)
Then started with Busty2 in 2000.


Are you talking about Busty Amateurs?

They left a lot of affiliates unpaid... so it is not really something to be proud of!

fastball 02-27-2024 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dugmor (Post 23237709)
If you couldn't understand how to parlay the exposure into making money, that is your own fault. Most of the "talent" had no talent.

allowed product placement. Malazia and I were sponsored by Von Dutch and got tens of thousands of dollars in Von Dutch merch that I can now sell in my vintage clothing store. I actually still fit in most of those outfits.

We really didn't need the show to make us money. I with the help of Jman introducing me to Jay Grdina and then Jay getting me a meeting with Steve Hirsch to introduce Malezia to secure her Vivid contract.

After that, every wannabe pornstar and feature dancer was contacting me to help them become stars. The JoinRightNow program got bigger than it already was. I eventually went on to work for Discovery Channel TV shows.

What did you actually do when they offered you to be on the show. How much did you want to get paid to be on the show?

I never wanted to be on that show. I avoided it because of what I posted above and because my work has never been based on actual reality. There are winners and losers; as you said, you were a winner. But I saw the wreckage the show created. I have made a few documentaries in my life, and the talent was handled poorly by the production company.
Congrats you did well. You and Mark might be the last guys standing. Any idea what happened to anyone else that was cast?

Axeman 02-27-2024 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 23237674)
One year later, Persian Kitty would become one of the first public faces of the online porn industry.
https://www.wired.com/1997/06/the-en...eur-next-door/

Beth was a special person. Miss her. :sadcrying

RyuLion 02-28-2024 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dugmor (Post 23237711)
Are you talking about Busty Amateurs?

They left a lot of affiliates unpaid... so it is not really something to be proud of!

BA was owned by Gavin.

A new owner of Busty2.com was Phil, a totally different site that used ibill, and iBill owed lots of Companies.


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