can a newbie start a paysite if he has alot of money?
 

a newbie comes to you and says...
(ehm, Im NOT that newbie)

I wanna make it big in the porn industry, I have 20 000$ to invest.

what do you answer (serious)?

give me half and ill show you the path to journey.

Oh yeah and bet on the Blazers.

he should save them for a porsche :-)

for $20k you can create an empire if you spend it wisely.

I set myself up for less than half that, and could now do 10x more with that cash.

akfk at akfk.com

write me a check for $18,000 and ill take care of everything for you

you say, give me the 20K, and I'll get you a paysite, and promo material and some traffic to get you going.

Hire a newbie designer at $800 for a tour, and members area.
Buy $5,000 in content from cheapest content provider.

Farm out some galleries, and banners.

Buy some cheap traffic.

Pocket the rest, and when he makes fewer sales than expected.. blame it on the Summer SlowDown.... Or whatever season it is.

in this biz its really knowing what you are doing more then the cash, but again without cash you cant do shit

I love it :thumbsup

He can also blame it on the third party biller

I guess it depends.
I had 2 clients a few months ago... one had $5000 to spend... the other one $1800... the second one makes a lot more money now than the first one. I guess advertising is the key as they pratically had similar sites. Just my 2 cents :)

A fool and his money are soon parted. Tell him to learn the ins and outs of the industry before he spend more than pocket change.

not as convincing :(

A newbie can start a paysite with $1000, so of course he can start one with $20,000... but no amount of money guarantees success.

just wait a few days :winkwink:

I'd say give me 10,000 and we'll split the profits. But this "newbie" would have to agree not to get involved in any of the design or set-up.

Spoken like a true oldtimer.

You are damm right !!!

If they aren't willing to work hard $20,000 or $2,000 wont make any difference.
--

Cindy xx
:2 cents:

I've seen many companies come and go.
I've also seen a company Called Hanco lose 5 mil in 6 months in this biz.

But if you work hard and learn the biz you can make money its all about trust and relationships you build with people.

anything is Possible good luck:thumbsup

holy fuck, how did they lose 5 mil? :helpme

It was tragic. They invested it all in short UIN numbers right before some Russian hackers put thousands of stolen UIN's on the market. Damn shame.

whoa, now THAT is a crazy story :warning

bingo

everything has to be done right

"never start with a paysite"

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ummm that may be the most infamous entry in the history of this biz

Rog werent you going to try and pick up that monster booth at the fire sale???

Yup, don't start with a paysite, its all about traffic, if they can get traffic, use the 20K and start affiliate program....otherwise invest less than 10K and be a webmaster with a head start.

Unless of course, the paysite is draw name site with icon celeb porn stars that interact with the members :-)

Few people really know what the real story is.

It was less than 5 mil and the reasons were not that complicated.

Many critical errors in the planning phases and just plain old fashioned bad management.

:thumbsup

start with free sites and avs sites first. don't even think about a paysite until at least 90 days. if you're still motivated to keep going and things are going well, then start planning for a paysite.

$20,000 plus motivation plus a good idea really ought to equal a successful paysite. What I would advise would probably depend on how motivated I thought the person was and whether I thought they had a good idea for a paysite. With the right motivation and the right idea, you don't need $20k to launch, but, like the lady said . . . rich or poor, it's good to have money.

"Why don't you give me half, we'll go out back, I'll kick you in the nuts, we'll call it a day."

- The inconceivable guy from Vegas Vacation

Which is funny since I started my first adult project in 2001, and it was an amateur site featuring my girlfriend. I am pretty sure that I am still a newbie.

Why exactly do you guys all agree that an AVS site is "safer" than a paysite?

Are'nt they essentially the same thing?

Members stay longer?

A fool and his money should not have gotten together in the first place.

I think you are right.

they're hardly the same thing...

second that :thumbsup

You can do alot, buy an adult turnkey site or something.

An avs can cost 0 dollars. It can use less content. It rebills without you even having to try to appease members.

Paysites take work. AVS sites can too for some overachievers. But I think the real reason people should start with AVS is that the payout is the same as you would make on a new paysite. Sometimes the payout would be more... and all with less hassle and definitely less money.

A newb would learn what it takes to drive traffic (the most important part of the game), convert and appease members before making the paysite investment.

Thanks, Pornwolf