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Donny 05-27-2003 07:30 PM

When Will Designers Learn: Simple Galleries Convert Best
 
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...



:2 cents:

Juicy D. Links 05-27-2003 07:30 PM

lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya :1orglaugh

European Lee 05-27-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya :1orglaugh
LMAO

Regards,

Lee

nxventures 05-27-2003 07:32 PM

You need to add some 1337 h4x0r DHTML and flash movies to that page. :2 cents: .

Martin 05-27-2003 07:33 PM

I like simple too..

Donny 05-27-2003 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nxventures
You need to add some 1337 h4x0r DHTML and flash movies to that page. :2 cents: .
If my point was to waste bandwidth and convert nothing I'd do just what you suggest.

:1orglaugh

SpaceAce 05-27-2003 07:34 PM

It's not all about conversions, though. I've made some galleries where the conversions aren't so hot but the enormous number of surfers pulled more than makes up for it.

SpaceAce

nxventures 05-27-2003 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


If my point was to waste bandwidth and convert nothing I'd do just what you suggest.

:1orglaugh

Pah, you must be a newbie. What you need, are flash flyovers at least 4, and a DHTML page that sets itself as an active desktop. And also loud sounds that say HEY BUY THIS YOU PORN FREAK AND I WILL LET YOU CUM ALL OVER ME.

Just tryin to help a brotha make a dolla bill in this binness.

Pappa 05-27-2003 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I bet lil2goodToCopySourceCode4u2 will be over to "study" them shortly.

dchottie 05-27-2003 07:39 PM

I agree that less is more. Some of my best converting galleries before I ever started building my own were Nasty Dollar galleries using their gallery builder.. You can't get any more plain than that but they converted damn well. I don't think it's so much the designer that is doing the graphics heavy flashy galleries I think that's more what the client wants. Usually those that don't or can't design opt to go for the really snazzy looks fantastic type of gallery and snub those that tend to make galleries a little less showy.

pantymaniac 05-27-2003 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...


:2 cents:


simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857


This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..

bigdaddyc187 05-27-2003 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...



:2 cents:


I agree from my experiences, also if you are promoting a glamour type site I as a surfer wouldn't want a plain gallery.

Donny 05-27-2003 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac



simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857


This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..


LOOKS being the key word in that last sentence. How does it convert? I've had galleries like that created for my site. They converted worse than anything I've ever tried.

SpaceAce 05-27-2003 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac

http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857


This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..

There is a lot of graphical work on that page, but I would still call that "simple". It is a straightforward, top-to-bottom and a fairly uncluttered layout.

SpaceAce

ldinternet 05-27-2003 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
lil2rich4u2 where u at? new galleries for ya :1orglaugh
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

pantymaniac 05-27-2003 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce


There is a lot of graphical work on that page, but I would still call that "simple". It is a straightforward, top-to-bottom and a fairly uncluttered layout.

SpaceAce

Can you pls post and good , really kick ass hosted gallery exemple pls...
i put on my site

:thumbsup

gruffy 05-27-2003 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac



simplicity could work maybe in amat niche but
Himmm i dont agree at all .. did you ever tried with nice looking galleries like this ?

http://www.sextronix.com/gallhit.php...all=1051214857


This hosted gallery looks awesome for me ..



Sweet! I got a 3MB DSL connection and that loads like 56k.

pantymaniac 05-27-2003 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gruffy




Sweet! I got a 3MB DSL connection and that loads like 56k.

Well i have 56k Connection on my computer , top logo makes me wait for the rest :glugglug

Trolleater 05-27-2003 07:51 PM

I've been told my gallery designs convert very well ;)

Samples:

http://www.paysites4sale.com/gallerysamples.html

pantymaniac 05-27-2003 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trolleater
I've been told my gallery designs convert very well ;)

Samples:

http://www.paysites4sale.com/gallerysamples.html

wohoo clean excellent work for me :thumbsup

Trolleater 05-27-2003 08:31 PM

thanks

Gutterboy 05-27-2003 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...



:2 cents:

On my first AVS site I flew the same lame ass newbie gallery design, every fucking day, for 3 years straight. 2 text links, 2 lines of text, 16 pics, and 3-4 recips on top. Converted great. really graet. Sure the conversions went down over time, but never by much.

If I wasn't doing something more profitable now, I'd still be using it.

Snake Doctor 05-27-2003 08:34 PM

When did you become the expert on gallery conversions?

My worst converting gallery might do better than your best converting gallery.
Just because its "your" best doesn't mean its "the" best.

And the gallery you posted has 16 pics and 7 sponsor links, it'd be kinda hard not to get clicks off of that, of course getting it listed and getting traffic to it is another story.

DeanCapture 05-27-2003 08:36 PM

Nice rack on this one - she's a little cutie :Graucho

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...lleTS-0015.JPG

Snake Doctor 05-27-2003 08:42 PM

Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 05-27-2003 08:56 PM

The situation with most people is they tend to think that what they are good at is the thing that matters most, in some instances it's all that matters. Unfortunately in life this is not always the case.

I think content is king, designers thinks design is, some think it's the concept of a site, a lot think traffic is.

Is this because the only way they can effect the the maount they earn is by improving what they are good at and ignotre the things they are weak at.

Design is important, but remember the guy with his CC out also has his dick out. So is he looking at the pretty logo and background or the chicks?

Traffic is important, but no matter how much you drive pass a pieca of shit it still stinks.

The concept is important, but you have to have the ability to present it in the right way so people understand it.

Content is important, but if no one sees it, who knows about it.

Everything is important, it's getting the right mix that matters.

DonovanPhillips
Those galleries convert because the girls look like real amatuers doing it for fun and not $$$. They are HONESTLY laid out, the tours shows what people are getting.

Paul Markham 05-27-2003 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The thing is to the surfer looking to pay there are 15 pictures, he just repeated each one 4 times. Bad. :(

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-27-2003 09:28 PM

Whats design got to do with any of this?

Elli 05-27-2003 09:28 PM

I've tried fancy and plain, and the middle ground seems to work best for me. This is my best converting gallery of all time. It's still doing great. Of course, it could be the content, too...

This gallery

KRL 05-27-2003 10:04 PM

It's all about the girl and her ability to make a sexually stimulating connection with the surfer.

Nothing else matters if that doesn't happen.

Bake 05-27-2003 11:21 PM

Simple galleries have there place , Good content that allmost tells the story for you allways helps. Very few use the most powerfull sales tool of all.

Elli 05-28-2003 01:12 AM

So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all? :)

hyper 05-28-2003 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all? :)
words

Lee 05-28-2003 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pantymaniac


Can you pls post and good , really kick ass hosted gallery exemple pls...
i put on my site

:thumbsup

If you join the TLC Hosting program you can get all of the Donovan Philips galleries sent via mail. Plus a few other sponsors too.

John3 05-28-2003 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.

Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/

SO simple...



:2 cents:

I was using that template back in 2000 for my Hun galleries. When did you start using it?

Also, I used in in 1999 for my AL4A slots . . . :Graucho

Theo 05-28-2003 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
It's all about the girl
or the boy :glugglug


donnovan,thanks for the mails,i didnt manage to reply to 2nd one cause the mailserver has some problem. Definitely i'll find a good use of them.

Bake 05-28-2003 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
So what IS the most powerful sales tool of all? :)
Curiosity

flashfreak 05-28-2003 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John3

I was using that template back in 2000 for my Hun galleries. When did you start using it?

Also, I used in in 1999 for my AL4A slots . . . :Graucho

muauhahahahahah... donovanshittyphilips you started again to steal other people work?
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
FUCK YOU!!!


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=93241

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=2#post1170439

Validus 05-28-2003 04:44 AM

I believe that if a designer has a balanced work load, with some creative work and some more ?simpler? work he/she does a better job. Designers are by nature creative people and want to show it, therefore if they get a project they want to show their creative abilities. If at all possible, giving them 2 kinds of project is the best, such as TGP galleries and a new layout for the corporate web site. Just my thoughts.

FlyingIguana 05-28-2003 05:01 AM

you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?

Ray@TastyDollars 05-28-2003 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?
:1orglaugh

AdultNex 05-28-2003 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?
Hell yeah, as a designer, I do. :helpme

natas 05-28-2003 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
you mean surfers don't jerk off to fancy logo's? wtf?
hahahaha :1orglaugh

magnatique 05-28-2003 02:45 PM

my two best galleries ever were way different..

one was totally HTML work... but different then the pack.. simpler, but not like everyone's...

the other one was graphical, with more graphic and a theme that went with the site..

but not simple..

I cannot sell simple... I tried.. not working for me ;)

MetaMan 05-28-2003 02:51 PM

when will u ever learn ur 20 teen sites wont converts,
shit new idea hoes on a bus.

ill call it Hoe Bus.

Donny 05-28-2003 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Hey Donovan isn't this your gallery?
http://dirty4free.com/ncg/abigail/index.htm

I think we should all emulate your style and put 67 pics on each gallery, we'd all be making more money then :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Let me tell you something about that gallery, dumb ass... it was a gamble that paid off. I took a LOT of heat for that gallery from the people on this board because I sent it to The Hun and got accepted. The Hun saw me getting chewed up here and emailed me personally asking about my conversions off of his traffic.

Since then, because of people like you that ripped on me, he's listed my galleries almost EVERY SINGLE DAY.

So, thanks for ripping me.

:Graucho :thumbsup

Donny 05-28-2003 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak


muauhahahahahah... donovanshittyphilips you started again to steal other people work?
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!

That gallery was created using Arles Image Web Page Creator and then adding some text.


NOT stolen asshole.

Snake Doctor 05-28-2003 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


Let me tell you something about that gallery, dumb ass... it was a gamble that paid off. I took a LOT of heat for that gallery from the people on this board because I sent it to The Hun and got accepted. The Hun saw me getting chewed up here and emailed me personally asking about my conversions off of his traffic.

Since then, because of people like you that ripped on me, he's listed my galleries almost EVERY SINGLE DAY.

So, thanks for ripping me.

:Graucho :thumbsup

Yeah I remember that thread, you told us all to go fuck ourselves because you had 4 signups off of that hun listings and thought you were the bees knees.

4 signups off a hun listing and he's giving us advice on how to make galleries that convert.
:1orglaugh

Angelonfire 05-28-2003 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Make it simple. The surfer doesn't care how cool your design is. This is one of my best converting galleries:
http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/donny/brandice/

The models not even cute. The gallery is just plain and straight forward.
Here's another that converts well:

http://www.ncggalleries.com/images/w...elle-04-05-03/
SO simple...:2 cents:



I am happy to see this thread.... So many critizie about having fancy stuff... but amateur starts amateur its not static it growsssss... If you don't have the fancy stuff etc... some think you suck....

start slowly but surely...

THanks this is encouraging !!!

Angelonfire 05-28-2003 10:22 PM

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