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The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 01:53 PM

Sad day.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95203,00.html


Maybe the ACLU should have gotten involved.

oh that's right, they're against these type of things... things the MAJORITY of people in this country hold dear, things that offer a somewhat positive message.

Freedom of Speech, expression, and art.. bye bye.

Further down the fucking spiral we go.
This country is a contradiction of itself.

GatorB 08-20-2003 03:00 PM

Um that is GOOD news. No religious favoritism. As antheist I would feel I'm not getting TRUE justice where my religiuos beliefs or lack thereof were I to be in that courtroom.

As far a freedom of speech, the courtroom is that judge's JOB. I couldn't have pics of naked woman at places I've worked before. Or wear shirts that said "Will work for POT" Was I denied freedom of speech? That judge can have the 10 commandments posted on his property or car or wherever durring his free time.

Probono 08-20-2003 04:12 PM

The other option is to allow Hindu, Buddist, Taoist, satanic, etc etc monumnets in the same lobby. That would be a shrine to freedom of religion.

Since my favorite alter is a nude blonde with nice pert breasts to lick wine from it would be a pleasure to have a few volunteers for that monument.

Triple 6 08-20-2003 04:14 PM

religion is a sham.

KRL 08-20-2003 04:17 PM

Good news. Preservation of the concept of separation of church and state.

What right does an elected official have to decorate the walls of a publicly paid for building with something representing just his religious beliefs?

The answer is NONE!

The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 04:47 PM

and if it was the statue of david (as was brought up the other day), you'd all be defending it's right to be there, as it's a work of art.

HEARTBREAKER 08-20-2003 04:51 PM

religion and politics will never be friends!!

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95203,00.html


Maybe the ACLU should have gotten involved.

oh that's right, they're against these type of things... things the MAJORITY of people in this country hold dear, things that offer a somewhat positive message.

Freedom of Speech, expression, and art.. bye bye.

Further down the fucking spiral we go.
This country is a contradiction of itself.

Keep Christ out of schools.

The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Keep Christ out of schools.

Good job staying on topic.

Joe Average 08-20-2003 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
and if it was the statue of david (as was brought up the other day), you'd all be defending it's right to be there, as it's a work of art.
Michaelangelo's "David" is art.

That ten commandments monstrosity is vile Christian propaganda.

Good decision.

Fuck religion.

TaDoW 08-20-2003 05:06 PM

the 10 commandments can eat a dick. I'm glad they pulled that shit out of there

tonkagunner 08-20-2003 05:07 PM

I would like to see a pic on the religious freaks faces when they come in with bulldozers and jack hammers to remove that thing from government.

NBDesign 08-20-2003 05:07 PM

http://www.thumbwhore.com/newgod.jpg

Here is your biggest problem with keeping religion in the government... this guy wants everyone to believe like he does...

I am so sick of these assholes shoving their morality in my face....

The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average


Michaelangelo's "David" is art.

That ten commandments monstrosity is vile Christian propaganda.

Good decision.

Fuck religion.

It's no more "art" than the monument is.

Ten commandments is not strictly Christian, and it's hardly a monstrosity.

It's the basis for many of the laws in this country.

It's public property, it should have been put to the public to decide.

The gripes of a few outweigh the desires and the beliefs of the many.

This country has officially failed.

Freedom of speech is dead.

And before I get the religious freak nonsense, I'm not religious by any sense of the word, and I do not believe the 10 commandments to be the word of, nor written by (a) God, but are a creation of man.

My gripe is solely about the freedom of speech being trampled.

Joe Average 08-20-2003 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


It's no more "art" than the monument is.

Ten commandments is not strictly Christian, and it's hardly a monstrosity.

It's the basis for many of the laws in this country.

It's public property, it should have been put to the public to decide.

The gripes of a few outweigh the desires and the beliefs of the many.

This country has officially failed.

Freedom of speech is dead.

And before I get the religious freak nonsense, I'm not religious by any sense of the word, and I do not believe the 10 commandments to be the word of, nor written by (a) God, but of man.

My gripe is solely about the freedom of speech being trampled.

How would you feel if it was a monument to the Koran that was on government property?

NBDesign 08-20-2003 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


Ten commandments is not strictly Christian, and it's hardly a monstrosity.


But it is part of "the bible" so in order to keep church and state seperate... it must be removed... has nothing to do with free speech or the 1st amendment.

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


Good job staying on topic.

KEEP CHRIST OUT OF LIFE.

Christianity has no place in schools or in little kids mind.

The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 05:44 PM

Amazing that a bunch of people who cry foul and claim "ART" and "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" when porn is being attacked, seem to have no problem trampling "ART" and "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" when it doesn't fit your mold.

NBDesign 08-20-2003 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Amazing that a bunch of people who cry foul and claim "ART" and "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" when porn is being attacked, seem to have no problem trampling "ART" and "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" when it doesn't fit your mold.
AGAIN... it is not about free speech or art... it is about keeping church and state seperate... what part of that can you not understand?

The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average


How would you feel if it was a monument to the Koran that was on government property?

I wouldn't care, words don't bother me.

Better the Koran, than a statue of some naked dude with his cock and balls dangling about.

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 05:46 PM

If you havent noticed.

i am ANTI-CHRISTIAN

call me what you want.

I wish Herod would have ended your entire religion before it started.

Christianity is an insult to mankind and the intelligence that seperates us from the fucking monkeys.

Go protect your kid fucking priests elsewhere holmes, we dont need no stinking priest tablets in our school teaching our kids to bow so you christians can slip your dick in their mouth easier.

The truth hurts dont it.

:1orglaugh

Joe Average 08-20-2003 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Amazing that a bunch of people who cry foul and claim "ART" and "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" when porn is being attacked, seem to have no problem trampling "ART" and "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" when it doesn't fit your mold.
You're missing the point:

IT'S ON GOVERNMENT PROPERTY!

Let the judge put it in his own front yard...

The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


AGAIN... it is not about free speech or art... it is about keeping church and state seperate... what part of that can you not understand?

BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT FREEDOM OF FUCKING SPEECH.

you can't be that fucking stupid.

Joe Average 08-20-2003 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT FREEDOM OF FUCKING SPEECH.

you can't be that fucking stupid.

Maybe you should let the Satanists erect some monuments on government property too...

If it's just about freedom of sppech, as I said, let the judge put it on his own property. There's no freedom of speech issue here...

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average


Maybe you should let the Satanists erect some monuments on government property too...

Them and the Raelians

:1orglaugh

NBDesign 08-20-2003 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT FREEDOM OF FUCKING SPEECH.

you can't be that fucking stupid.

How do you figure?

It's not spoken... it's written....

It's part of the bible... which makes it religious...

How can you have that there and keep church and state seperate?...

nitemonkey 08-20-2003 05:53 PM

This is not a freedom of speech issue.
This is a seperation of church and state issue.
I think that most of us would agree that everyone has the right to believe whatever the fuck they choose...
however...
The USA, and Australia (where I'm from) are not christian or jewish states.

FATPad 08-20-2003 05:58 PM

Good. Seperation of church and state is always good.

The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 06:00 PM

Like I said, it's a sad day, and you people have only emphasized that fact.

Too bad most of ou don't realize that you're encouraging your own demise.

NBDesign 08-20-2003 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Like I said, it's a sad day, and you people have only emphasized that fact.

Too bad most of ou don't realize that you're encouraging your own demise.

Which is based on your beliefs... not mine... so what you call demise... I call my freedom of choice.

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:03 PM

You make your donations.

<img src=http://www.komabookstore.com/bookcovers/chaoslords.jpg border="1">

We'll make ours.

Read this.

And thats a real church pic taken by the guy who set it on fire who sat there and watched it burn.

Joe Average 08-20-2003 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Like I said, it's a sad day, and you people have only emphasized that fact.

Too bad most of ou don't realize that you're encouraging your own demise.

No it's not, it's a happy day and you are a conservative, Jesus loving wanker.

FATPad 08-20-2003 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average


No it's not, it's a happy day and you are a conservative, Jesus loving wanker.

Hey, I lean towards conservative and I think this was good. :P

BigFish 08-20-2003 06:06 PM

Good news. Church and State should not mix!!:thumbsup

Joe Average 08-20-2003 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
Hey, I lean towards conservative and I think this was good. :P
Yes, but most Jesus freaks are conservative, are they not?

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:10 PM

Im laughing my ass off here hahaha

Listening to this.

'Drones since the dawn of time
Compelled to live your sheltered lives
Not once has anyone ever seen
Such a rise of pure hypocracy
I'll instigate I'll free your mind
I'll show you what I've known all this time

God Hates Us All, God Hates Us All
You know it's true God hates this place
You know it's true he hates this race.

We hold these truths to be painfully self-evident
All men are not created equal
Only the strong will prosper
Only the strong will conquer
Only in the darkness of Christ have I realized
God Hates Us All'

good shit

:glugglug

FATPad 08-20-2003 06:14 PM

"Moore installed the monument two years ago in the middle of the night "

HAHA

Sounds like he thought he was doing something allowable.

The Truth Hurts 08-20-2003 06:14 PM

Anyone see Demolition Man?

That society is where were headed.

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
"Moore installed the monument two years ago in the middle of the night "

HAHA

Sounds like he thought he was doing something allowable.

What else does he do around there in the middle of the night?

Think he goes twiddle his pecker?

:1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Anyone see Demolition Man?

That society is where were headed.

Should have said Running Man I'd believe you!

I'm going to take pics of me voting for Arnold for you guys

hahaha

:glugglug

Joe Average 08-20-2003 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Im laughing my ass off here hahaha

Listening to this.

'Drones since the dawn of time
Compelled to live your sheltered lives
Not once has anyone ever seen
Such a rise of pure hypocracy
I'll instigate I'll free your mind
I'll show you what I've known all this time

God Hates Us All, God Hates Us All
You know it's true God hates this place
You know it's true he hates this race.

We hold these truths to be painfully self-evident
All men are not created equal
Only the strong will prosper
Only the strong will conquer
Only in the darkness of Christ have I realized
God Hates Us All'

good shit

:glugglug


I told you before stay away from my door
Don't give me that brother, brother, brother
The freaks on the phone won't leave me alone
So don't give me that brother, brother, brother
I found out

Now that I showed you what I been through
Don't take nobody's word what you can do
There ain't no Jesus gonna come from the sky
Now that I found out I know I can cry
I found out

Some of you sitting there with your cock in your hand
Don't get you nowhere don't make you a man
I heard something bout my ma and my pa
They didn't want me so they made me a star
I found out

Old hare Krishna got nothing on you
Just keep you crazy with nothing to do
Keep you occupied with pie in the sky
There ain't no Guru who can see thru your eyes
I found out

I been through junkies I been through it all
I've seen religion from Jesus to Paul
Don't let them fool you with dope and cocaine
Can't do you no harm to feel your own pain
I found out

:glugglug

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:21 PM

up that mp3 for me man or email it to me please?

fletch @ fletchxxx dot com

:glugglug

FATPad 08-20-2003 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Anyone see Demolition Man?

That society is where were headed.

HAHA

You still haven't said what's so wrong about this. Free speech has nothing to do with it.

Get a job at McDonald's, and in the middle of night build a statue of Satan in the place and see if it's allowed to stay because you're exercising your right to free speech.

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
HAHA

You still haven't said what's so wrong about this. Free speech has nothing to do with it.

Get a job at McDonald's, and in the middle of night build a statue of Satan in the place and see if it's allowed to stay because you're exercising your right to free speech.

BUAHAHAh that's one of the best posts in awhile man.

nice.

:1orglaugh

Gman.357 08-20-2003 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average


Yes, but most Jesus freaks are conservative, are they not?

Yeah mon.

http://www.saucu.com/cards/jesusfreak.gif

Joe Average 08-20-2003 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
up that mp3 for me man or email it to me please?

fletch @ fletchxxx dot com

:glugglug

Believe it or not, I don't have it. Not actually listening to it... you just made me think of it.

It's Lennon's "I Found Out".... looking on WinMX for it now. Will post it to ya when I get it.

:glugglug

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:37 PM

fuck, i could go grab the cd and rip it hahaha

ill rip the fucker, gimme a few minutes.

:glugglug

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:39 PM

hadn't ripped this disc yet.

found it. its in the drive. ripping.

will up when done.

:glugglug

Joe Average 08-20-2003 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
hadn't ripped this disc yet.

found it. its in the drive. ripping.

will up when done.

:glugglug

Nice.

:rasta

Fletch XXX 08-20-2003 06:49 PM

Another quality Fletch rip

<a href=http://www.fletchxxx.com/mp3s/ifoundout.mp3>John Lennon - I Found Out</a>

:glugglug


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