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Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 11:50 AM

Acacia Finally Sent Me My Papers
 
They are coming after me for having my portfolio!

what a joke.

ill throw this away like the rest of the crap mail.

'You provide access to digital audio/video content via your website without a license'

:orglaugh

CAHEK 10-22-2003 11:50 AM

:1orglaugh

BRISK 10-22-2003 11:51 AM

You have video in your portfolio? Where?

brand0n 10-22-2003 11:51 AM

fuck man never good

hope for the best and expect the worst

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
You have video in your portfolio? Where?
I have movie galleries I guess.

Ive done hundreds of them.

Brad-Wishing 10-22-2003 11:52 AM

I wrote a nice email to them from a hotmail account.

Subject "Good work guys!"
Body went something like this:

"You guys are awesome. I love how you're cracking down on the adult industry.
Putting out hundreds of business owners and family supporters with a patent you KNOW is bullshit is a really classy way to get rich fast.
You all will burn in hell - but at the rate you're going, you'll have hundreds of people running to burn you ALIVE.

Congrats, and die in a fire."

rooster 10-22-2003 11:52 AM

one thing I wonder is the law on 'dips'. It seems they are trying to triple dip.

JamesK 10-22-2003 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
I wrote a nice email to them from a hotmail account.

Subject "Good work guys!"
Body went something like this:

"You guys are awesome. I love how you're cracking down on the adult industry.
Putting out hundreds of business owners and family supporters with a patent you KNOW is bullshit is a really classy way to get rich fast.
You all will burn in hell - but at the rate you're going, you'll have hundreds of people running to burn you ALIVE.

Congrats, and die in a fire."

:1orglaugh

BRISK 10-22-2003 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


I have movie galleries I guess.

Ive done hundreds of them.

I don't see any of the movie galleries in your portfolio linking to videos though.

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK


I don't see any of the movie galleries in your portfolio linking to videos though.

The papers do not even give a URL, just a threat and that I have until November 30 to pay

hahaha

BRISK 10-22-2003 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
I wrote a nice email to them from a hotmail account.

Subject "Good work guys!"
Body went something like this:

"You guys are awesome. I love how you're cracking down on the adult industry.
Putting out hundreds of business owners and family supporters with a patent you KNOW is bullshit is a really classy way to get rich fast.
You all will burn in hell - but at the rate you're going, you'll have hundreds of people running to burn you ALIVE.

Congrats, and die in a fire."

Good work on that anonymous email, except that Acacia probably reads this board, so now they know that email came from you.

JDog 10-22-2003 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


I have movie galleries I guess.

Ive done hundreds of them.

With actual movies on the templates? Because you just design templates, don't you?

jDoG

Brad-Wishing 10-22-2003 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK


Good work on that anonymous email, except that Acacia probably reads this board, so now they know that email came from you.

Troof.

Oh well - we have no video anywhere, and on a personal level I am in Canada. So whatever.

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog


With actual movies on the templates? Because you just design templates, don't you?

jDoG

Nah, I do tons of shit thats not in my portfolio.

I am guessing they got me from this board for the most part.

Since they do not give a url or any info other than c/net papers about their company and a single paper saying I am infringing.

No details given, only the strongarm.

JDog 10-22-2003 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK


Good work on that anonymous email, except that Acacia probably reads this board, so now they know that email came from you.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Yea, probably now they do!

jDoG

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 11:58 AM

Regardless of where I have any movies, its safe to say I DO NOT OPERATE a movie site so they can come try to get whatever they want.

BRISK 10-22-2003 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


The papers do not even give a URL, just a threat and that I have until November 30 to pay

hahaha

The papers I got didn't have a URL on them either.

Sly_RJ 10-22-2003 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


The papers do not even give a URL, just a threat and that I have until November 30 to pay

hahaha

I wonder if they have addresses of yours documented anywhere.

JDog 10-22-2003 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Nah, I do tons of shit thats not in my portfolio.

I am guessing they got me from this board for the most part.

Since they do not give a url or any info other than c/net papers about their company and a single paper saying I am infringing.

No details given, only the strongarm.

That's bullshit! They have to give you proof of what they want you to pay for and where you're using it! Ah, throw it away with your junk mail, like you said. :winkwink:

jDoG

JDog 10-22-2003 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Regardless of where I have any movies, its safe to say I DO NOT OPERATE a movie site so they can come try to get whatever they want.
Exactly, you don't generate your money from "movies" So how can they get a royality fee?

jDoG

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:02 PM

Yeah these guys are delusional at best if they are now targetting designers as relaying 'audio/video' content.

just too fucking funny.

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog


Exactly, you don't generate your money from "movies" So how can they get a royality fee?

jDoG


I agree, these guys are barking up the wrong tree.

pamphage 10-22-2003 12:04 PM

i wonder how they find people and what their criteria is for deciding who to sue? strange they would pick on a designer

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pamphage
i wonder how they find people and what their criteria is for deciding who to sue? strange the would pick on a designer
They surf this board, select target, aim, fire.

Just a bunch of scavengers.

I am guessing because I made free IMPA banners for the company.

Ill have to put them back up!

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:06 PM

maybe they view animations as video hahaha

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/banners/fletchxxx-impa-banner.gif border="0">

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:13 PM

I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!!!!

these fuckers are getting the mailing addresses from AFFILIATE PROGRAMS.

this letter came to my HOME and not the address I have on my WHOIS.

they are using webmaster databases to contact people.

Here is a list of the people on the papers I was served that have settled and are MOST DEFINITELY PASSING ON OUR INFO to acacia./

LFP (Hustler)
Interactive Gallery a subsidiary of New Frontier Media
Cyberotica
Sex Check AVS
Matrix Content
Vivid Entertainment
Wicked Pictures
Platinum Bucks.

I assure you now, i am only affiliated with Hustler and Platinum, and I will remove all links because of this.

I wont be shit on by a company who is settling with acacia, and turning over my personal info to them.

And I surely will not push such a company.

you guys better rethink shit if this is how its going down.

doober 10-22-2003 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Nah, I do tons of shit thats not in my portfolio.

I am guessing they got me from this board for the most part.

Since they do not give a url or any info other than c/net papers about their company and a single paper saying I am infringing.

No details given, only the strongarm.

Received the same this morning, addressed to "ladies and gentlemen"...what a bunch of circus clowns...
They ask us to pay yet have no mention of what the urls that are infringing are or any other pertinent info.

true morons :2 cents:

rooster 10-22-2003 12:15 PM

my guess is on hustler being the fredo of the industry

pamphage 10-22-2003 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!!!!

these fuckers are getting the mailing addresses from AFFILIATE PROGRAMS.

this letter came to my HOME and not the address I have on my WHOIS.

they are using webmaster databases to contact people.

Here is a list of the people on the papers I was served that have settled and are MOST DEFINITELY PASSING ON OUR INFO to acacia./

LFP (Hustler)
Interactive Gallery a subsidiary of New Frontier Media
Cyberotica
Sex Check AVS
Matrix Content
Vivid Entertainment
Wicked Pictures
Platinum Bucks.

I assure you now, i am only affiliated with Hustler and Platinum, and I will remove all links because of this.

I wont be shit on by a company who is settling with acacia, and turning over my personal info to them.

And I surely will not push such a company.

you guys better rethink shit if this is how its going down.

wow that's fuxxored :BangBang:

doober 10-22-2003 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I JUST FIGURED IT OUT!!!!

these fuckers are getting the mailing addresses from AFFILIATE PROGRAMS.

this letter came to my HOME and not the address I have on my WHOIS.

they are using webmaster databases to contact people.

Here is a list of the people on the papers I was served that have settled and are MOST DEFINITELY PASSING ON OUR INFO to acacia./

LFP (Hustler)
Interactive Gallery a subsidiary of New Frontier Media
Cyberotica
Sex Check AVS
Matrix Content
Vivid Entertainment
Wicked Pictures
Platinum Bucks.

I assure you now, i am only affiliated with Hustler and Platinum, and I will remove all links because of this.

I wont be shit on by a company who is settling with acacia, and turning over my personal info to them.

And I surely will not push such a company.

you guys better rethink shit if this is how its going down.

check this out

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=188753

I have a really good feeling about who it is, and it aint any of the boyz mentioned in the letter either

:2 cents:

pamphage 10-22-2003 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
my guess is on hustler being the fredo of the industry
i'll take care of it
<IMG src=http://www.johnderosa.com/films_images/mike_looks_fredo.jpg>

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober


check this out

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=188753

I have a really good feeling about who it is, and it aint any of the boyz mentioned in the letter either

:2 cents:

It will all come out in time, im guessing Hustler is where my info was taken.

guessing though, could be wrong.

doubt it though

johnbosh 10-22-2003 12:24 PM

what about all this threats, do every movie gallery webmaster get one ore something?

pamphage 10-22-2003 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


It will all come out in time, im guessing Hustler is where my info was taken.

guessing though, could be wrong.

doubt it though

thanks for the info. glad i never pimped out flynt sites.

BRISK 10-22-2003 12:26 PM

Suddenly I'm glad I never promoted Hustler.

doober 10-22-2003 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pamphage


thanks for the info. glad i never pimped out flynt sites.

I can gurantee that hustler didnt give out my info, since i never pushed any of their products

another large one that isnt mentioned in their "letter"

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:28 PM

doober you can email me anything with extreme confidentiality and I will not pass it on, i want to find out who it is.

I cannot pin pioint it to Hustler, but it has to have been someone!

hhehehe

email me

fletch @ fletchxxx dot com

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:30 PM

It highly offends me and makes me nervoous that a company with my social security # and full residential and personal info is passing it on to some ambulance chasing patent crooks.

who are now contacting and threatening me at my home.

did they give them my phone number too? Robert bermann gonna call my home and threaten me?

BlackCrayon 10-22-2003 12:30 PM

holy fuck affilate programs selling webmasters up the river, how fucked is that. once its determined who is doing it ALL webmasters should ban together and stop pushing their shit. what a bunch of judas fucks.

goBigtime 10-22-2003 12:31 PM

FXXX - Don't throw that shit out man.

You might consider allowing someone in the defense team use it. I think I remember them asking about that sort of thing awhile back? (People getting license requests/demands who weren't infringing.)

Furious_Male 10-22-2003 12:32 PM

I can understand a company making some sort of settlement with Acacia for there own good but if that settlement involves giving out there affiliate database that is total bullshit.

pamphage 10-22-2003 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober


I can gurantee that hustler didnt give out my info, since i never pushed any of their products

another large one that isnt mentioned in their "letter"

wonder if they gave out your income stats too, and if they are sending them out to everyone in the database or just those who seem lucrative.

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
FXXX - Don't throw that shit out man.

You might consider allowing someone in the defense team use it. I think I remember them asking about that sort of thing awhile back? (People getting license requests/demands who weren't infringing.)

I wasnt going to throw it away man, just a figure of speech, I keep all these papers.

:winkwink:

SetTheWorldonFire 10-22-2003 12:35 PM

I got the same shit

Fletch XXX 10-22-2003 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Male
I can understand a company making some sort of settlement with Acacia for there own good but if that settlement involves giving out there affiliate database that is total bullshit.
Well considering I do not run any paysites it seems they are CLEARLY getting this info from somewhere.

Where better than the source? Why track people down when you can just grab a list of all the people who push say hustler or Platyinum Bucks and target those.

By theory if you bought Matrix content, all acacia would have to do is get Matrix to hand over all their records and contact all the people who bought videos from them.

Seems the easiest route.

Furious_Male 10-22-2003 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Well considering I do not run any paysites it seems they are CLEARLY getting this info from somewhere.

Where better than the source? Why track people down when you can just grab a list of all the people who push say hustler or Platyinum Bucks and target those.

By theory if you bought Matrix content, all acacia would have to do is get Matrix to hand over all their records and contact all the people who bought videos from them.

Seems the easiest route.

Well I hope you can narrow it down. Thats just wrong. You have to wonder if the information was purchased by Acacia or was part of the actual settlement with one of these companies.

Gemini 10-22-2003 12:40 PM

Serve them Fletch and find out which turned you and then sue them for invasion of privay or some such. I'm sure an attorney can find some way to do it. Run up the sponsors tabs beyond what they would pay for caving in for a full price license. :winkwink:

Or small claims them (if possible) in whatever state you live in when they turn each person over. 3-5k a whack wil nickel and dime them into thinking twice before making such agreements.

iwantchixx 10-22-2003 12:40 PM

holy jesus on a bicycle!

I always thought that sponsors could NOT give out personal information, but then again they could easily change their TOS to make it all legal for them. I will be watching this thread closely and know who NOT to deal with :ak47:

jeroman 10-22-2003 12:45 PM

Acacia is smart people, it's the system that is fucked up.

What is this paranoia shit with being so anonymous
when talking about Acacia ??


Acacia leprosa 'Scarlet Blaze'

http://www.plants-magazine.com/image...pix/acacia.jpg

NetRodent 10-22-2003 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CAHEK
:1orglaugh
Don't laugh. Acacia will be coming after you for your sig.


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