Content: Todays going rate for...?
 

What is exclusive B/G content going for?

More specifically: 2 video scenes,1) creampie & 2) Cherries (no anal) (25-45 min), teen model (not her first scene)?


Any help with this would be great.

Thanks,

Ken Dog

Somewhere between 200 and 5000.

Hope that helps.

I can be more specific... What may ye need to know to narrow that down a bit?

Check the thread regarding ILLEGAL porn. There's a big issue re if the porn you buy is illegal in a certain locality, you may have issues at hand to deal with.

I have seen rates as high as $1600 for a B/G video.

Will be hard to find somebody who will get it exclusive.

Non Exclusive about 50 to 80? per scene, exclusive probably 3 to 4 times more if the stuff is good enough to be used for DVD productions as well

Though it pains me I have to agree with him sometimes.
(Only joking, just getting back for the other post in another thread. :1orglaugh )

The problem in pricing exclusive B/G is down to what it costs to produce and it's value sold off non-exclusive.

Let's firstly forget shooters who have been doing it two weeks and think they can do it.

Now you are in the real world.
A shoot takes 40 minutes to 4 hours, depending on the level of quality, finding a boy who can do it in front of a camera, can come when told to, has the right body & dick and will not totally piss off the girl is not easy. These guys are rare and usually want paying for it. $200 is normal here.

Then finding a girl who does not look like a crack whore, pretty, will fuck in front of a camera, will cost anything from $300 to $1,000 a scene, depending on how much she knows her worth.

Shooting it takes skills and experience that few newbie shooter posess. Therefore good work is at a premium and sort after.

So here are the minimum sales of a good set/video like you described, shot on film and digital.

Mags $2,000
Internet $3,000

These figures are average with good looking models. But you are looking to recoup an absolute minmum of $5,000 or upwards. So why should we shoot it for less?

On the other hand the solo girl market is flooded with product and you can buy a solo girl video for $200 :1orglaugh

like everything else in this business prices are getting squeezed.

first - i know what a creampie is - what is 'Cherries'? you mean a first time scene by a girl? You get nothing extra for that, nobody is going to believe u even if it's the truth.

ok - the prices guys are getting who are selling alot of exclusive b/g fuck vids range from $1200 to maybe $3000 - I don't believe anybody is getting 3k on a regular basis because I talk to ALOT of potential customers and when I even mention $2500 they go running for the hills. My price for a b/g fuck video is $2,000 - should be higher! Even have sold them cheaper but not gonna do that - check out our videos, they are high quality, if people want to save a few hundred bucks and get crap let them.
Since my guy is also a decent stills photographer I can put together a nice package where webmasters can get both a great video and photosets at a decent price.

If you see somebody shooting exclusive b/g scenes out of Socal for much less than $2,000 - be suspicious. Girls are $800-1100 alone, a good stud is $300, a great one is more. Plus other expenses of course.

I think Mutt's right - besides the $1600 price I saw was at his site :thumbsup

i should change that - tho if somebody buys solo and b/g sets at the regular price then yeah I can charge $1600 for a video.

[Couldn't edit my previous post so here I go]
We don't shoot B/G for exactly the reasons that Charly mentions. Girl/girl is another matter - you pay for two models but you have a lot less pressure and a lot less stress. I will be showing some Xmas lez action on Monday :thumbsup

We get anywhere from 2000-3000 depending on degree of difficulty, meaning sets/locations, type of scene, length of video, types of encoding, video splits, teasers, etc.

This year we filmed over 250 hardcore boy/girl scenes for various customers.

I'm sure there is cheaper and more expensive out there...we charge enough to keep the studio and our production team going, have a good time doing it and always deliver on time.

i highly recommend kraz. he does good stuff and was attentive to my needs.

Yes few realise shoting good boy girl is a nightmare and put's you to a lot of stress, by the time you paid the models and only shot two sets in the time you could have show 3 girl/girls or five solo filrs set/videos. You realise $3,000 is a steal.

As high as?

LOL That's a decent mid figure......Actually, that is a low figure for his request.

that's weird - both my guys try to get out of doing g/g shoots. number 1 reason is that it's hard enough getting ONE of these girls to show up, getting 2 of them to show up at the same time increases the odds of a cancelled shoot. The other thing they tell me is that it's harder to direct because very few of the girls are actual lesbos, they need to be directed way more and put into positions so the camera can see the good stuff - the guys we use are good studs, they take control of the scene, know what the shooter needs and make it work.

the secret of great hardcore videos is the dudes. Redlight District became the #1 hardcore movie company overnight by not hiring chicks to exclusive deals - they made deals with the top male talent.

hot chicks count too of course.

Thanks, pamphage, always a pleasure to work with you :thumbsup

I think in general you're right ... but our models are very motivated and always show up (we own the model agency so they have to). I think with the proper guidance a girl/girl shoot can be as effective as a boy/girl shoot. In all cases, one of the girls is more "active" so she takes the lead and sets the pace.

have to agree with Mutt on the guy problem with hardcore. We shoot mostly amateurs and couples, and 9 out of 10 guys can't perform for the camera. In normal biz the slogan goes, "it's hard to find good help". In our biz, we use, "Its good to find HARD help".

I have zero problem shooting two girls here, if the girls are not bi then we use someone else have 16 girls at the moment who will do girl-girl willingly and none need a lot of directing. Remeber we were the ones who shot the 4-5-6- girl sets and videos.

But he is right about the boy-girl shoots, I refuse to work with amateur boys unless he brings his own girl. If they do know how to get it up they cum before required, do not know the poses, think they are being paid to fuck or just piss off the girl by asking her out.

Ha, anyone who has been looking at this industry for a while must be laughing their butts off at what content providers have evolved into. It really is pathetic.

Face it, cheap technology and competition from over seas are killing you. I can order a hardcore custom shoot with a hot hot girl for just 500 dollars from europe or latin america. 2000-3000 dollars? AHAHA blow it out your ear.

The big paysite program operators have been beating you over the head for yeas on price. And now the stick is even bigger and your heads are even harder. Good luck.

if you are paying $500 for a hardcore scene in europe or latin america, and it is good quality, i would have to speculate that the models are not actually working because they want to. While this may not bother you, i find it to be pretty low.

You have a responsibility when ordering/buying exclusive content to know who you are dealing with and know that they are not involved in sexual slavery, which is the ONLY situation where i can imagine a halfway decent hardcore shoot for $500 would come from.

Charly nailed the prices for legit work right on the head ... maybe different producers charge a different amount for THEIR cut (for filming/post production if part of the deal) ... but hot hardcore models - i would be extremely worried that i was supporting something unethical if the total price was not at least 1k ... and thats cheap. thats a mediocre model with a guy who is probably soft half the time, and misses the girls face on the money shot.

if you dont care about the models, then ignore this, but for those who understand these are people, not pieces of meat ... pay attention to this.

:2 cents:

have to agree with Mikey,
We've looked into shooting in Europe, and the real agencies with experienced girls cost more than MrMovie pays for a complete shoot.

Another problem with the Euro girls is English language. All of our customers want some sort of interaction and talking, instead of elevator music in the background.

You get what you pay for...I can buy a bottle of ripple for $2 or a real bottle of wine for 20-50.

If you want some solo amatuer/bbw/latina...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=210850

100% exclusive, contract included as well as ALL the original and photochop images.......

Ripple kicks ass!

Cream and ripple = cripple
champagne and ripple = champipple
flat ripple (sangria) = flapple
beaujolais and ripple = beaujolipple

:)

ha ha ... click on this guys link:

http://www.fillercontent.com/ ---> click on "I am Over 21 Let me in" ... those are great samples :1orglaugh .... then click on the blue center banner and youll see who this is.

people, if you give a fuck about models being treated like actual humans and not cattle, do some research on who you are dealing with when you shop for content, be it exclusive or not.

:2 cents:

You are hilarious. You are concerned about the models.. what a joke. Let me see. You exploit them, degrade them according to your customers demands and then tell the entire world that you respect them. This is like a comedy.

People do a search on who is this 219 guy. Let me help you. He used to work for Pheonix content, then they changed their name and he was fired by his boss.

Then he was threatening to sue not only his boss but anyone who bought content from Pheonix. So all the webmasters who had nothing to do with Mikey's incompetence and getting fired where being dragged into his mess because Mikey was claiming that the content they had belonged to him.

It was ugly sad and pathetic. So before you buy content check out who iti s you are dealing with. And when a content provider tells you that his prices are 10 times higher than someone else and it is because he respects the sluts he is working with have a good laugh.

Hit me up on ICQ if u r interesed in exclusive custom shoots
i am shure i can give u best cheap prices:thumbsup

I would charge $3,000 to shoot it for you, and I would have it edited , and encoded for the web at that price.

You own the copyrights, and maintain the originals, as if you were the original producer, cause you are, I would just be hired by you to do the work.

if you are interested then ICQ me at 174842541

2 video shots + 2 pic sets (real photo, not screencaps): 1000-1200 delivered with full documentation, IDs, etc. Same guy and same girl in both sets. Otherwise, contact me on ICQ 104870192
:thumbsup

do you have a single idea of what you're talking about? One of my models just brought a home like 3 months ago, obviously not working only for us, but it's not like very "slaverish" to me when a 22 yo girls has her own home before (say) a doctor would have it. And you know what? Our "slaves" (so to call) fight to get a chance to be trated like "cattle". Hey, after all a regular income here is 300-500 a month and some of them are being "slaves" for well over 1500 a month. Now, if you want to buy content from us for 1000+ a set, great, I'll charge you that.

As for "quality" goes... BEAT THIS!

I had to double check the date on this thread to make sure it wasn't from 2001.

global economy - you have to deal with it - non U.S. shooters have lower operating costs, sometimes much lower.
This doesn't mean anything to customers.

play up your strengths - American talent works much better in videos - the girl next door to most surfers speaks English.

big pain right now is there is an asswipe out of town shooter hovering around the L.A. porn scene who for some bizarre reason is intent on driving talent fees up with clueless misinformation - already wiped out a couple of our shoots. If you're reading this buddy - i am dealing with you and you will need to move on soon - this isn't a hobby nor a way to fuck hot young chicks rather than your fat wife - it's a business.

You're right on this one. That's why we don't shoot some niches, because we don't have a model that speaks English for that niche. We have some, tho, but I must agree that's the first thing I tell my customers about (however, we're growing on it and we're launching a full reality site soon, so not big deal :winkwink: )

what content on that tour did YOU shoot? I see Aria Giovanni - that you didn't shoot. What about the others?

site looks nice and an interesting fetish.

Harvey, where are you located?

all the underwater, obviously.

Pornwolf: I'm in Argentina, but we work in Uruguay and Brazil too

What's your advice? Would an old fart porn star/producer/director like me be able to start producing scenes and selling the raw footage to Internet site owners looking for totally exclusive content? I realize that me being the exclusive "wood" might be a turn-off, but I am reliable and functional---see the link to "How to be a Porn Star" at my www.davecummings.com.

I just used seven of my already-shot boy/girl scenes to slot the Feb release of "Sugardaddy 24"; but I have another six or seven already-shot exclusive boy/girl scenes;and, I also have over 25 blowjob scenes, 10 of which include sexual positions in addition to the bj--four of these 10 include creampie cum shots while the other 21 are facials (a few of which are oral creampies). My main camera always has 15-25 minutes of footage and my tripod cameras total another 40-45 minutes.

The quality of girls I use can be found in the link to "Index of Girls" at my site; and, the boxcovers can be viewed at the link to "Filmography"

Could I sell the above exclusive raw footage? No editting, just a roll or two of chrome stills, model release forms, and 2257 DOB compliance forms.

Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated, even negative comments.

Thanks,

Dave Cummings
www.davecummings.com

Mr. Movie ... get your facts straight about "who i am". They are quite far from the truth. I could type a whole bunch of shit here but i really dont give a fuck what you think, nor do i want to start another war with my ex partner ... I did not accuse you directly of sexual slavery, i simply mentioned that it does exist - the fact that i mentioned it shows that i do respect models as humans not meat ... your defensiveness is suspect.

p.s. ... go fuck yourself :321GFY

Maybe i dont know what im talking about .. maybe you are working for $100 per scene ... all i know is my experience ... what the model costs, what the location costs, what my time and any other miscellany costs, adds up to a hell of a lot more than i hear some people selling exclusive content for. If what i said does not apply to you, then dont worry about it. I didnt say not to buy from anyone in particular - i suggested that people know who they are dealing with. I happen to care for the models in this business, so i said what was on my mind.

:2 cents:

Mr.Movie ... this is Erik from SobeGirl, isnt it? fuck as if you would admit it anyways... Schmuck.

Who you are I don't know exactly. All I know is that one strange day you were asking Erik from sobegirl for 1000 bucks out of the blue.

It was for some bullshit story of how you needed the money quickly and would pay him back at some convention. When he told me about it I thought it was strange. And then all the shit with your exparnter came out and it all started to make sence.

That is all I know. I also know there are two sides to every story and you should never ever believe most of the things you read on a message board.

I am sorry that I offended you Mikey. Having such high respect for girls that suck strangers dicks, get fucked by stange cocks connected to men that they don't love and eat their cum is a very corageous thing. I respect you for that :-)

Thanks for reminding me, I need more of these.

I sell Exclusive BG content from $1800 and up

Erik, It was $100, not $1000 ... i wanted to make a purchase via paypal .... someone else took care of me so no problems. Bullshit story? whatever... when someone i do biz online with needs to borrow a c-note for a day im not too worried about it ... i was wiping my ass with cnotes at the time so i didnt think it was a big deal. Someone else with the ability to trust gave it to me, i made the purchase, and i believe a sale came in hours later and i paid back the 100.

bottom line - i am an honest guy, and i know that when i look in the mirror, so i dont give two shits what anyone else thinks.

I have an IMMENSE amount of respect for the girls that work in porn ... if you feel differently, thats your business. I dont have the energy to get into a war with you ... so enjoy your life and ill enjoy mine ... i simply ask that you be careful about posting misinformation about me as you did in your previous post.

thanks!
Mikey

Erik told me he really would love to post right now and swears that it was $1000 and not a hundred.

Shit, I borrow 100 bucks from Erik every few days for goods or whatever. I know he would give you 100 dollars. He gives it to me all the time.

So sorry to dis information your misinformation Mikey but the facts are the facts.

But I do like this no war lets just let each other live in peace deal. I can live with that. Maybe still friends too? Who knows?

Mr Movie no = Erik

Umm MR Movie, if youre not Erik.. WHAT THE fuck do you have my girls ids on your site for. You have no right to use my content

It is Erik ... i knew that when i made the post on 12-19 ... thats why i included the link, they all go to somesubdomain.************* ...

not to mention his latest post about me asking to borrow $100 into my paypal account. Is this guy banned or something? why isnt he saying who he is?

Mikey

Yeah hes banned, and everyone knows he uses 2 or 3 aliases here. He makes a living ripping off people until they catch on. Wait til the Ruskies get a hold of him. He didnt even have the scrotem to show at a trade show in his own back yard in fear of getting his ass beat...

LOL he wanted to borrow $100 from you.

LOLLOLLLOLOLOLOLLL!!!!HAHAHAHAHAAAA...that is the hardest i have laughed in a while