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Dirty F 12-24-2003 04:36 PM

In regard to the vegas / terrorist thread.
 
Situation:

Warnings for possible terrorist activity in LA and Vegas.
Warnings for flights with Air France as the terrorists want to use that company.
Im flying to LA in a few days with Air France.
Air France already pulled a few flights to LA and possibly will do that with my flight as well if this situation doesnt get better.

In that other thread ive been called a pussy, stupid, you name it and the last great comment was made by Pipecrew saying "in other words you are broke" Because of that comment he made it to my shitlist btw - fuck you asshole.

Anyway, everybody called me a pussy because instead of acting like a tough guy like you all are i simple thought about things.

Knowing the situation id like to know how many people of you would take this flight.

MetaMan 12-24-2003 04:39 PM

can i start a thread about a poll thats about a thread?

Juicy D. Links 12-24-2003 04:39 PM

party poker rules

Dirty F 12-24-2003 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan
can i start a thread about a poll thats about a thread?
Asking me?

Dirty F 12-24-2003 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
party poker rules
Didnt play yet today. I will later on.

Fletch XXX 12-24-2003 04:41 PM

For the record man, I dont think youre a pussy about it.

If anything happens you can seriously say 'told ya so.'

if not, fuck it.

somehow I doubt anything will happen but it very well could.

considering where i live, there is always a possible terrorist threat now, so leaving the house is prety much considered a risk.

if you go and die, wouldnt that suck?

fuck it man, do what you feel is right to hell with what people on this board think.

i think terrorists are smart enough to threaten vegas and then attack another city instead... but these things take a lot of planning...

Dirty F 12-24-2003 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
For the record man, I dont think youre a pussy about it.

If anything happens you can seriously say 'told ya so.'

if not, fuck it.

somehow I doubt anything will happen but it very well could.

considering where i live, there is always a possible terrorist threat now, so leaving the house is prety much considered a risk.

if you go and die, wouldnt that suck?

fuck it man, do what you feel is right to hell with what people on this board think.

i think terrorists are smart enough to threaten vegas and then attack another city instead... but these things take a lot of planning...

I dont think something will happen, really i doubt it...but to me taking this flight (i dont think they will fly anyway) is just asking for problems :/

I pretty much decided for myself, im just pissed off at all the hatred i bumped into when posting about it.

psyko514 12-24-2003 04:43 PM

Ask yourself this:
If you miss the convention because of this, and nothing happens, how will you feel?

Fletch XXX 12-24-2003 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss


I dont think something will happen, really i doubt it...but to me taking this flight (i dont think they will fly anyway) is just asking for problems :/

I pretty much decided for myself, im just pissed off at all the hatred i bumped into when posting about it.

from who?

this board is filled with out of work kids whos parents still pay their car insurance.

most of the people on this board arent even real.

they sit at home more than they socialize, are in bad health, and are generally for the most part, unsuccessful losers who rather look at porn all day submitting galleries and trying to make 1 sale a day for gas money and food.

dont let anyone get to you here...

no one is worth it.

cheers

:glugglug

DirtyDanza 12-24-2003 04:46 PM

I would take it... what are you going to do stay afriad all your life.... the thoght as crossed my mind.... but I fly still... and I pray theres terroest onmy plane... I will show you how to take knife like objects from a mans hands..... I can see the news now... porn star saved usa by stopping attack..... fuck em.... I don't think your a pussy.... as a great general said to his troops going into battle " fear is a natural feeling upon entering the battlefield, it's how you use that energy that determins if you live or die" so nothing wrong with being scared... fuck anyone who says so... but I also belive fuck my fears and go.... more people died last week in automobile accidents than all the terror attacks we have had since history started documenting them..... so theres some numbers for you

Dirty F 12-24-2003 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Ask yourself this:
If you miss the convention because of this, and nothing happens, how will you feel?

I know this will possible happen if i dont go...and since this is a choice i have time to think about i wont feel too shitty about it...

Dirty F 12-24-2003 04:54 PM

Actually, now i think of it.
I shouldve asked something like "would you let your mother take that flight"

I know this board is full of assholes who pretend to be all that and who dont like me so they say anything jsut to be against me.

I really wonder if those same people that called me a pussy and a loser would let their mother take this flight. I think that would change their mind.

Scott McD 12-24-2003 04:58 PM

Well i know my mother wouldn't give two shits about it. So yeah i'd send her, and she'd go every time...

KC 12-24-2003 05:02 PM

I would take the flight.

A few scumbags living in caves in Pakistan issuing threats that at most could harm ~5,000 people is no reason for the entire population of the US (almost 300 Million).. and all the people who may or may not travel to our country to live in fear.

I'd live my life with the risk that I might be killed in some sort of terrorist incident, than to crawl under my bed and close the window for the rest of my life and run the risk of dying in a house fire.

Live your life.. don't live in fear.

twistyneck 12-24-2003 05:02 PM

Jesus you whine a lot. Take the flight and enjoy life a little bit. Nothing is going to happen.

Gemini 12-24-2003 05:03 PM

Totally infatuating threads on this... all these atheistists etc concerned even in the slightest that they might die... uhh well given the atheistic theory YOU WOULDN'T KNOW YOU'RE DEAD! Now would ya? :winkwink:

On the other theory about passing out before the plane hits the ground? Someone lied to you. You feel every bang as that thing crashes trust me.

Fletch XXX 12-24-2003 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
Totally infatuating threads on this... all these atheistists etc concerned even in the slightest that they might die... uhh well given the atheistic theory YOU WOULDN'T KNOW YOU'RE DEAD! Now would ya? :winkwink:
What does being an athieist have to do with any of this?

Atheistic theory? huh?

heh, just curious.

Dirty F 12-24-2003 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
Jesus you whine a lot. Take the flight and enjoy life a little bit. Nothing is going to happen.
I dont live in fear at all. Never. I take a pane everywhere i want. I go to countries ive never been on my own just some money and clean underwear. I do know when its time to think clearly and when to be the tough guy tho.

Gemini 12-24-2003 05:12 PM

Think about it Fletch... atheist = no God = no afterlife...

So if you go ahead and go AND get killed, you wouldn't know it to even be mad at your self eh?

Butttt it appears that some that might express atheism on one hand are concerned about dying on the other... why worry? ;-)

Maybe the concern is because they aren't really atheists. lol But really are agnostic.

Fletch XXX 12-24-2003 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
Think about it Fletch... atheist = no God = no afterlife...

So if you go ahead and go AND get killed, you wouldn't know it to even be mad at your self eh?

Butttt it appears that some that might express atheism on one hand are concerned about dying on the other... why worry? ;-)

Maybe the concern is because they aren't really atheists. lol But really are agnostic.

I dont really think being an atheist has ANYTHING to do with if you dont want to take a risk and end up dead.

I just dont understand the connection.

Its almost as if youre saying, just because you are an atheist you shouldnt be afraid to die.

I dont understand it. Being an atheist really has nothing to do with life or death for that matter.

Because I dont want to die that makes me agnostic?

what a funny thing to believe.

 Smokey The Bear  12-24-2003 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
Totally infatuating threads on this... all these atheistists etc concerned even in the slightest that they might die... uhh well given the atheistic theory YOU WOULDN'T KNOW YOU'RE DEAD! Now would ya? :winkwink:

On the other theory about passing out before the plane hits the ground? Someone lied to you. You feel every bang as that thing crashes trust me.

Atheistists ?? LOL Ok geminiasts

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Resolute 12-24-2003 05:35 PM

While I understand you reluctance - I would however take the flight as per normal...Sure with all the French and Airline security it will probabelly be the safest in the world..

 Smokey The Bear  12-24-2003 05:37 PM

-*- Being an atheist doesnt mean you dont believe in an afterlife :) It means you dont believe in god or a supreme being.

Just thought i would point that out as many people use the term without knowing what it means.

And btw battuss , dont feel bad i may have done the same thing if i lived overseas.

psyko514 12-24-2003 09:21 PM

Here's my 2 cents on the subject.
Why bother living your life in paranoia? Carpe Diem. Seize today. Worry about the present, not the future. Live for today.

I'm not a statistician, but I'm pretty sure the odds of you getting hit by a car tomorrow or being murdered on the streets are better than dying in a terrorist attack.

You take a risk everytime you cross the street. Are you going to stop crossing the street? No.

Go to Internext.

Jedimaster 12-24-2003 09:26 PM

Quote:

Ask yourself this:
if he is right,,you will never know

Libertine 12-24-2003 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
Butttt it appears that some that might express atheism on one hand are concerned about dying on the other... why worry? ;-)

Not wanting to die doesn't necessarily mean thinking about what comes after death. You should realize that choosing to take or not to take risks is something you decide while alive. So, you are in effect making a choice: many more years to live and to fulfil the things I wanted to do with my life or risk only living for two more days (or whatever).

If your perspective is 100 years from now (when you are dead) it doesn't make a difference... fairly obvious since you don't have a perspective, you're dead. But your perspective is based in the present.

If you value your life (e.g. you experience life as something mostly positive), the longer life is most definitely the preferable option.


Your reasoning is flawed in 2 ways:
- You take an "after the fact" perspective, while the actual perspective is from the present.
- You mistake "not living" for "being dead". Atheists who don't want to die don't "fear being dead", they prefer living over "not living" (nothing) from their present perspective.

Gemini 12-25-2003 01:43 AM

I guess you guys are missing the total irony in it all... if there is nothing afterwards then you wouldn't know you ever lived to be concerned with what you felt.

But you shouldn't be afraid to die either... afterall that's beyond your control. lol

Too many psychological bits coming in to play maybe. ;-)

What you think or feel before death would be a totally moot point.

Libertine 12-25-2003 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
I guess you guys are missing the total irony in it all... if there is nothing afterwards then you wouldn't know you ever lived to be concerned with what you felt.

But you shouldn't be afraid to die either... afterall that's beyond your control. lol

Too many psychological bits coming in to play maybe. ;-)

What you think or feel before death would be a totally moot point.

"you wouldn't know you ever lived to be concerned with what you felt" - but the whole point is that NOW, I am alive, and NOW I am concerned with it.
I make decisions every day that I will have completely and utterly forgotten in a few years. Still, that doesn't mean that they are meaningless at the moment of taking them.

From an objective perspective, what you think or feel before death is indeed a moot point. However, humans are subjective beings living in their own little subjective world, and what is important to them is whatever they feel is important. Objective reality doesn't have to have anything to do with that.

Brad Xtremepay 12-25-2003 04:12 PM

Battus: I didn't call you a pussy. :p

baddog 12-25-2003 08:44 PM

who wants to live forever anyway? if I was going to go, that would be a pretty cool way to go.

I want a lot of press coverage when I go.

baddog 12-25-2003 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss

I really wonder if those same people that called me a pussy and a loser would let their mother take this flight. I think that would change their mind.

dude, come on . . . . it is GFY

Pornwolf 12-25-2003 08:51 PM

I probably wouldn't. But then again I'd stay where you are and fuck some more of those hot euro babes with the great asses that you know. Battuss is a pimp.:glugglug

mrthumbs 12-25-2003 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck
Jesus you whine a lot. Take the flight and enjoy life a little bit. Nothing is going to happen.

sweandy 12-25-2003 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
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Just lost my first $50 deposit in partypoker :1orglaugh

Johnnie 12-25-2003 09:01 PM

Quote:

im just pissed off at all the hatred i bumped into when posting about it.
I don't blame you for taking precautions and getting advice from someone, but like you said, I would have rephrased the question or probably asked someone totally different. Too many people have to pretend they are something they are not on this board and live up to their "hard-ass" image. But if you think about it, that accounts for 80% of the Internet. :eek2

Quote:

I'm not a statistician, but I'm pretty sure the odds of you getting hit by a car tomorrow or being murdered on the streets are better than dying in a terrorist attack.
I definitely believe in this statement and would take the flight if I was you.

Quote:

I guess you guys are missing the total irony in it all... if there is nothing afterwards then you wouldn't know you ever lived to be concerned with what you felt.
I guess you missed the point of being an atheist having nothing to do with your beliefs of an afterlife.

BV 12-25-2003 09:05 PM

i wouldn't

beemk 12-25-2003 09:38 PM

i wouldnt take it

AaronM 12-25-2003 09:42 PM

We are all taking a risk by going to Vegas in the first place. I am saying fuck it. I plan on dying sooner or later anyway so I might as well be having a good time in the process.

I will be partying on the strip for new years....It could turn out to be one hell of a bigger fireworks show than I am expecting.

OzMan 12-25-2003 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Here's my 2 cents on the subject.
Why bother living your life in paranoia? Carpe Diem. Seize today. Worry about the present, not the future. Live for today.

I'm not a statistician, but I'm pretty sure the odds of you getting hit by a car tomorrow or being murdered on the streets are better than dying in a terrorist attack.

You take a risk everytime you cross the street. Are you going to stop crossing the street? No.

Go to Internext.

It's not paranoia, it's about risk assessment. The risk is extremely low.

As you said the probability of Battuss getting hit by a car, murdered or struck by lightening or shark attack are much higher.

Las Vegas shouldn't have been mentioned at all as there was no specific threat as far as I recall. The local authorities here are pissed because now we will get 900,000 visitors for New years Eve instead of 950,000.

Regarding Air France, weren't the flights cancelled for just these two days?

Remember now Internext is like 10 days away and it is very likely the threat will be downgraded or forgotten about by then and instead we will all be worrying about looking for vegetarian buffets to avoid mad cow.

So come and enjoy yourself :glugglug

toddler 12-25-2003 09:48 PM

When did caution automagically become paranoia? Oh wait, its GFY.

"Seize the day!" ? Fuck you. The man is
trying to make sure he can keep on
seizing days. And you no talent ass clowns are hating.

B: Do what is right for you, don't let some
GFY keyboard cowboy make up your mind. If you think the benefits outweigh the risks, then go. If not, then don't.

AaronM 12-25-2003 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler
When did caution automagically become paranoia? Oh wait, its GFY.

"Seize the day!" ? Fuck you. The man is
trying to make sure he can keep on
seizing days. And you no talent ass clowns are hating.

B: Do what is right for you, don't let some
GFY keyboard cowboy make up your mind. If you think the benefits outweigh the risks, then go. If not, then don't.

Anybody who puts something in their sig that specifically states that he has a small package...Does not think things through very well.

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Johnnie 12-25-2003 11:36 PM

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GFY keyboard cowboy
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Quote:

Anybody who puts something in their sig that specifically states that he has a small package...Does not think things through very well.

"All of your host admin needs in one small package...me..."
I really hope you know what he means. :thumbsup

Deepsy1 12-25-2003 11:57 PM

I smell Israeli people in the thread...


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