Israeli Slave Trade
 

This is fucking unbelievable.

In Israel, the trading of slaves is legal, as long as they are gentiles (all non-jews), and
this has led to some sickening things. In a story published by some feminists in Israel
in the Jeruselum Post (www.jpost.com) it talks about how many young girls are
lured to Israel from the former Soviet Union and sold into slavery to work as
prostitutes and the like. I find this sickening that the US will go and bomb the hell
out of Serbian Schools and hospitals for dealing with Albanian terrorists, but they
turn a blind eye to slavery.

Slavery does suck but there are some things USA cant do. Im sure that it is on thier list of things to save the world but Im not even sure how they whould go about doing it.

I think if we tried to just step directly step in and stop it then it whould bring even worse situations up to light. I dont even know though because i havent even heard much of anything about what is going on there but I think that it is out of our hands for the time being ..

Why just the Serbians? Are they the only ones doing it in Israel?

i dont believe you.

Care to back that up with a source?

I don't know if that's true or not... but ill just say that israel is the only country in the world where torture is legal :mad:

Be honest... wasnt the world a better place when the arabs were dominated by western empires and the jews had no country, no army, no land?

Ill put all people in the same bag and ill say:

-arabs = insane fanatics
-israelis = hypocritical mass murderers

It's illegal in Israel...
and it's not slavery...it's "women trade" it's something that happens all over the world and it's wrong!

there are criminals in Israel...there are criminals in the U.S they are all over the world



:321GFY

Ye SonOfRage..
I also heard that its legal to drink the blood of children and to bake Matsa with it. And that there is an official Israeli plan to conquer the world by controlling all finance...
Its also legal to rape anything as long as its not a kuala (cause they ass is too tight) and as the israeli supreme high court approved, its legal to mass murder non-jews if done with taste and originality.
You know?... Organized crime is now also legal in Israel because the government ruled out the bad influences of the organization aspects of it.

I worder how high you were ranked in your class dude :1orglaugh (was it a "special" school?)

the U.S.A. had slaves not that long ago :thumbsup

this country was founded because other countries were forcing their morals, religion, and beliefs on the people.... and gee... now it seems like thats all the US does anymore to other people & countries...

all this arab israelli bs will be over soon - bush will attack iraq, iraq will attack israel and israel will wipe out the entire middle east - its just a matter of time until Israel gets what they really deserve (meaning the entire middle east)

Captain Canada..
When will that happen exactly
and where are the best seats to watch :winkwink:

(btw. Aren't we all just slaves to money anyway? As Richard Ashhahahahaha says :1orglaugh )

This is complete bull, give me a link

torture in Israel is illegal. Give me a source that says its legal now

:thumbsup if it was only true

I thought torture was legal in Saudi Arabia. My bad...

I think some of us here are talking BS today...

As far as I know torture is illegal in Israel with an exception to "walking time bombs" this means terrorists on the action that were arrested and by torturing them and gaining fast information, major terror attacks can be prevented.

Remember that Israel is on war.

Tell me, would you be against torture of this kind if it could prevent 9/11?

I was watching Caspasr Weinberg and a few others talking about it today on CNN - you should have seen their eyes light up at the prospect of a full scale war in the middle east. Probably gave him the biggest hardon he's had in years.

If you torture someone, with physical and/or mental stress, they will tell you everything you want to know.

They will also tell you anything and confess to everything.

In a practical sense, beyond ethical questions, how would the resulting information be useful?

Intelligence of this kind helps and possibly does thwart other future attacks.

Search the JPost. The article is called Fighting the flesh trade
by Marion Marrache; Jerusalem Post; Nov 30, 2001; pg. 05.B

http://web.amnesty.org/802568F7005C4...2005F9404?Open

The Torah condones the owning of slaves. Both Jew and Gentile



More?

Why do you think they did so well in the African slave trade?

Labret- Can you explain to me the relevance of quoting the Bible in proving that something is legal by Israeli law?

Friday- So torture is wrong, unless you need to? I don't like the sound of that.

Israel: Theocratic nation.

Now you are going to ask what a theocratic nation is right?

Dont make me waste anymore time stating the obvious.

A theocracy is a state run by a religion or the clergy, or run according to religious law. Is that close enough for our purposes? Because last time I checked, Israel was a parliamentary democratic rebublic, with a religious right that is notable but also notably in the minority.

So let me ask my original question in another way: Are you asserting that Israel is a theocratic state?

Would you say it is safe to assume that 99% of everyone in the Israeli government is a "Jew"?

And I already had this discussion about the right not being a minority. The second largest party in Israel is conservative. That is no minority. Do a search, I am lazy.

and

the·oc·ra·cy Pronunciation Key (th-kr-s)
n. pl. the·oc·ra·cies
1) A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.
2) A state so governed.

And yes, Israel is subject to religious authority. ITS ISRAEL. read the damn book.

why you think iraq be attack israel?

oh i forgot, americans dont have enought time to build new WTC for atacks.


i think bush be attack my dog cock and it be good zoocontent

:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

Its not just Israel

Go to http://www.witness.org

and watch their Video called "Bought and Sold"

It is pretty indepth

The party in power in the United States right now is pretty much Christian. Are you going to quote the New Testament a legit US legal source?

You really think that everyone in our government is Christian? Really?

They are about as Christian as I am Buddhist.

When you government is ruled by God and his authority on Earth, I would like to to think that you could quote your holy books. They use it to justify the existence of Israel, but its not good enough for anything else? Cmon now.

Sure... 99% of all Israeli's, and indeed people in their government, are jewish. One thing you are missing is that that does not mean that they follow the jewish religion, and certainly not that they do so in an orthodox manner.

This is a distinction you might want to get your head around. Jewish is a religion, but it many cases, it is a matter of national or ethnic identification. I know plenty of people who are proud to be jewish, but aren't religious at all.

Further, even if everyone in Israel's government were a very religious Jew, that does not mean that the nation itself would become a theocracy. A huge part of the US government is Christian. Hell, a huge part is Protestant. Does that mean the US is run as a Theocracy? Because if you think so, I would beg to differ.

Any state is subject to *some* religious authority. What is at issue here is the matter of degree. The main motivating factor in Israeli government is the nature of a representative government, not a theocracy. Their system is clearly based on the British parliament model, not religious law.

Finally... Maybe you should crack some books yourself. A minority is anything less than half. By its very definition, I think it is safe to say that the "second biggest" party (out of *many*) has way less than 50% of the seats in parlaiment. Care to dispute my math? Which means that the religious right does *not* have control of the Israeli government.

Any more questions?

I said the party in power is considered Christian. I am not saying all republicans are really Christians. I am saying that the party itself as an entity is thought to be a "Christian Party" as they preach Christian "morals and values". Nor are the members of the Israeli government are "Jews" in the sense of religion. Some are religious and some are not although religion does have some small influence. An influence which I think is less than the influence of Christianity in the new US gov't.

What authority does US have over US soil or any other country over their soil? Israel defended the land against numerous attacks.

Oh so thats why Israel exists.

Not because of some silly Zionist notion that Israel belongs to the Jews?

"Notions" don't keep governments in power. Military power does.

Dont mind Labret.
He is just angry at any countries that either allow jews in OR dont allow him to take his sister to the streets (for shaming the family by wearing too short sleeves) or his father's wife (for disrespecting his father) and shoot her so that other women will be warned :1orglaugh

Don't confuse "the reason Israel was founded" for "the way israel is run". That would be a pretty silly mistake for someone who tries to be rational and well-informed, don't you think?

Hmmm. A Jew that isnt religious. Is that like a Christian who doesnt believe in Jesus?

Jew Pronunciation Key (j)
n.
1) An adherent of Judaism as a religion or culture.

By definition a Jew is an adherent of Judaism.

Ju·da·ism Pronunciation Key (jd-zm)
n.
1) The monotheistic religion of the Jews, tracing its origins to Abraham and having its spiritual and ethical principles embodied chiefly in the Hebrew Scriptures and the Talmud.



I hate to break it to you, but what do you think alot of our "western" laws are rooted in?



Ok. So the Democrats in this country are a minority?

The American Nazi Party or the Green Party... those are minority.


I bet you like The Smiths.

Ok Rose.

And when is that script of yours coming out. I gotta make sure that everyone who wants a free copy... gets a free copy.

Following your definition of "Jew" much less than 99% of the Israeli government is Jewish;Although I would like to see some stats on that. Don't think that you can play with definitions without reevaluating prior arguments. Also there are different degrees of following Judaism.

There is such a thing as a jewish ethnic identification. Are you denying that because there is also such a thing as the jewish faith? Sure, the faith led to the ethnic identification, but that doesn't mean there is no difference between them.

I do assert that there is such a thing as a jew who doesn't believe in the jewish faith. Much as there are Irish people who weren't born in Ireland. People create all sorts of ways to define themselves. Don't be confused because there is more than one thing picked out by the same word.

As for whether "western" governments are based on Christianity... Yes, they share some of the same values and basic rules. However, once codified, a secular law becomes separate from a religious law unless explicitly tied to it. What the Pope says, or what people find in the Bible, is not admissable in court as law. Likewise, the passaged of the Torah you quote don't count as Israeli law.

Yes. The Democrats represent a large minority in the US. In fact, I believe the Republicans do as well. Neither party has total contol... So the religion that might be associated with one of them does not run the country, or even come close. The Democrats and the Republicans are minorities, though admittedly very powerful minorities. A majority is more than half. It's what it means. "Large" is not the same as "Most". And, after all, the religious right party in Israel is nowhere near as big as the main parties in the US.

Oh. And I hate the Smiths. I would pay $50 to kick Morrisey in the nuts.

You dont see the difference between calling yourself a Jew and calling yourself Irish?

Calling yourself Irish doesnt insinuate who your God is. And when I know who your God is, I can make a whoooole lot of assumptions as I have probably at the very least perused your book of scripture.



And I didnt say the Torah was Israeli law.

I said The Torah condones the owning of slaves. Both Jew and Gentile

And what is the Torah again?



The religion may not run the country, but it sure as hell has a big influence. Abortion for example. Who is playing with that right now. There is supposed to be a seperation of church and state in this country. Its not so in Israel.

And any talk of government and religion in the USA is a joke. We are a godless nation. We use religion as a label, not a way of life here.


Communist.

I'm moving to Israel

Labret, you have not said anything of substance. Your quoted the bible, which the Israeli laws are only partly based upon. Basiclly by quoting the bible you only proved that the bible deed indeed condone slavery. Nothing more.
You also stated that the continued existence of Israel is due to the bible. This is obviously not true. As for justification, a country does not need a justification for existence.

Sure I see a difference between calling oneself a Jew and calling oneself Irish. Just not the same on you do. I believe that there are a number of people who identify as Jewish, who do not adhere to Judaism. Can you not consider the possibility that the religion has been around so long that the decendants of past Jews (religious) now call themselves Jewish as an ethnicity?

I agree. You did not say the Torah (Pentateuch, Old Testament, etc.) was Israeli Law. However, you tried to enter passages from it into a discussion about what is legal in Israel, and what is not... didn't you?

As for religion here in the US... Are you asserting that Israel is only a Theocracy to the extent that the US is? You seem to come close. If so, I guess my work here is done. I won't argue that either sees no pressure from religios doctrine. My point was that the Law of the Torah is not the Law of the Land. Either way, I guess I just don't get your point... How are passages from the Torah relevant to what is legan in Israel? Rather than point, counterpoint, reply... Why don't you start over and explain from the ground up how that argument is supposed to work.

And, once again, I am reminded that you're a funny guy. "Communist" is a great reply. Really reminded me that everything you do is tongue-in-cheek. You fascist. ;)

And who uses the Torah as the basis for their faith again?

You are an idiot, and you just proved it.

Let's see. Koran is based on the Torah, Christianity.

Am I? That's what people say when they know they are wrong. Let's see, the reason the Jewish state was created is because there were 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust and the world came to the realization that if a Jewish state would not be created then such things would continue to happen. As for the geographical location- It is the ancient home of the Jews not only according to the bible but also according to numberous Roman documents.

Son of executed female collaborator says was tortured : By The Associated Press

"The son of the first known Palestinian woman to be executed as an Israeli collaborator Sunday said gunmen tortured him until he invented a story about his mother's involvement in a militant's death.

Ikhlas Khouli, a 35-year-old mother of seven, was shot dead Saturday after being seized from her home in the West Bank city of Tul Karm.

Bakir Khouli, 17, lifted up his T-shirt at his one-room house in Tul Karm on Sunday to reveal black and blue marks he said were made by electrical wires shortly before his mother was killed. "

Ok, there is the 6th grade cry baby account of the creation of Israel.

According to the "bible", the Canaanites were there before the Jews. Remember... those are the ones that the God if Israel commanded the Jews to wipe off the face of the earth.

Too make a long story short...

After the war 10s of thousands of Jews were left displaced and living in displaced persons camps all over Europe. Backed by wealthy American Jews, Zionist terrorist organizations began flooding "Israel" with illegal immigrants in order to gain some influence with the British. Up until that point, they were a small minority in "Israel". Through the use of terrorism the British caved in to the Zionists.

Bingo bango... Israel.

You know jack shit.

Can you translate for me please?


BTW Labret, I am not xxxmanager. Good try.

Labret just hates jews right? Just like Hitler didnt like them.
Only difference is, Hitler had the power to do something about that. Labret can not do shit. And if anybody think that Labret's heart bleeds for Palestinians, then that anybody is stupid.
He just likes they kill jews, but doesnt give a fuck about them.
Right Labret, "Enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Let's just say chinese will start killing jews next month,
then you will see Labret supporting chinese

Well god damn, it finally sank in eh? For months you been calling me an Arab.

I dont hate Jews. I hate Zionists. Get your shit straight.

I hate Canadians. If someone started blowing them up, I would be applauding them. If someone started blowing up the French, its all good. I love the IRA, they do good work. Hell, I want to see Osama drop a nuke on New York City. The world is full of people that need to be cleansed.

So dont paint me as some sort of Nazi. My list of white people I want dead is looooooong.

But I have a feeling that it will take another 6 months for that one to penetrate that shell of chocolately ignorance that surrounds your Canadian public school educated brain.