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EscortBiz 08-05-2004 08:49 PM

Major changes to how banks clear checks
 
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...ing/P90617.asp

EviLGuY 08-05-2004 09:01 PM

Thats kind of interesting.. checks are pretty much outdated anyways. :2 cents:

fr8 08-05-2004 09:02 PM

Damn good thing im already using plastic for everything.

James White 08-05-2004 09:05 PM

Good to see banks getting with technology

crockett 08-05-2004 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EviLGuY
Thats kind of interesting.. checks are pretty much outdated anyways. :2 cents:

kinda sucks because the float can be helpful sometimes.. but I have always wondered why in the hell it takes so long to process a check. I wonder if this will make using checks more popular online. Maybe it wil help us in the long run, as a way to bypass visa if a check can clear in less than 24 hours..

worst case if it dosen't clear, you only gave away a 24 hour trial..

WiredGuy 08-05-2004 09:13 PM

I like the idea of most aspects, I'm not sure how well fraud control will work out without the original check anymore though. It is time that technology caught up to the banking sector. As the article said, billions should be saved in processing fees, but fat chance banks will pass those savings on to customers.

WG

EscortBiz 08-05-2004 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I like the idea of most aspects, I'm not sure how well fraud control will work out without the original check anymore though. It is time that technology caught up to the banking sector. As the article said, billions should be saved in processing fees, but fat chance banks will pass those savings on to customers.

WG

yeah they better have some solid security in place

JustinF 08-05-2004 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EviLGuY
Thats kind of interesting.. checks are pretty much outdated anyways. :2 cents:
Not according to that article: "banks process about $200 billion in checks every business day".

:winkwink:

BRISK 08-05-2004 09:35 PM

I like the idea of checks clearing faster.

Illicit 08-05-2004 09:38 PM

I write a check maybe once every 6 months... its plastic and online banking for me

Mr. Mike 08-05-2004 09:39 PM

I was surprised to know that it takes this long to clear a check. I deposit a check by 4pm, it shows up the next day. Been like that for years.

extreme 08-05-2004 09:39 PM

checks suck.

Stamen 08-05-2004 09:40 PM

Sounds like a good thing to me.

EscortBiz 08-05-2004 09:42 PM

banks are going to make a fortune in boucned check fees, here is why:

millions of people write checks knowing that it will take 2-3 days to hit their account and then they plan on the next day or so to put the money in to cover it.

They will be in shock when all of a sudden same day boom they get hit with a fee for a bounced check

Oracle Porn 08-05-2004 09:43 PM

Am I the only one who is being trusted by their bank and add the funds imidiatly to my account?

If I have $10,000 on my account and deposit $1,000 in checks... I immideatly see $11,000 balance....

KRL 08-05-2004 09:43 PM

Does that also mean when we deposit 6 figure and up checks they don't get to play the bank's scammy float game where they put a 7 business day hold until funds clear?

Let's see if that stops too. And if not what bs excuse they'll use to play with your funds for 7 days.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

EscortBiz 08-05-2004 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Does that also mean when we deposit 6 figure and up checks they don't get to play the bank's scammy float game where they put a 7 business day hold until funds clear?

Let's see if that stops too. And if not what bs excuse they'll use to play with your funds for 7 days.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

wondering the same

if a bank needs an excuse all they say is "well its our policy blah blah blah..."

EscortBiz 08-05-2004 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
Am I the only one who is being trusted by their bank and add the funds imidiatly to my account?

If I have $10,000 on my account and deposit $1,000 in checks... I immideatly see $11,000 balance....

and its avilable right away?

im thankful that I really dont care in these days, but i remember the days when every day made a difference

SpeakEasy 08-05-2004 09:46 PM

Good article Escort Biz .very interresting to say the least.:)

zzgundamnzz 08-05-2004 09:47 PM


In a nutshell, the law frees banks from having to handle paper and instead allows them to process electronic images of your original checks


This is nothing really new... back when I worked for EDS we processed all those checks the same way. Only difference was that they got copied on to micro-film instead of on hard drives.

The big difference is the speed though. It took forever to process everything into the micro film but doing digital images should speed everything up.

EscortBiz 08-05-2004 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by SpeakEasy
Good article Escort Biz .very interresting to say the least.:)
thnx

woj 08-05-2004 09:48 PM

I write maybe one check a month, all electronic here... I guess it would be cool to get sponsor checks cleared sooner, but doesn't really matter though...

BRISK 08-05-2004 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
Am I the only one who is being trusted by their bank and add the funds imidiatly to my account?

If I have $10,000 on my account and deposit $1,000 in checks... I immideatly see $11,000 balance....

I have that too, but only up to $1000. If I deposit a check for $10,000 they will clear $1000 immediately but they will hold the other $9000 until the check clears.

Shoplifter 08-05-2004 09:51 PM

It's already like this in Canada and other places. The checks clear overnight.

Easton 08-05-2004 09:51 PM

i didn't think anyone used checks anymore, then i moved to the US... i can write the gas pump attendant a check here, it's crazy

EscortBiz 08-05-2004 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easton
i didn't think anyone used checks anymore, then i moved to the US... i can write the gas pump attendant a check here, it's crazy
reminds me of a funny story

This guy who just moved from russia to america was at my house to do an installation of a phone system.

He told me before he started that cash only, it was just 250 bucks why not.

Then he told me that a week after he arrived to america he installed an phone system, remote garage door system, alarm system for someone and he charged them 2000 dollars.

when it came to pay the guy said all he has is a check for 6000 so the customer offers him take the 6K check and give me 3500 in cash as change and keep the 500 bucks for the trouble.

You can figure out the rest the check bounced

Oracle Porn 08-05-2004 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
and its avilable right away?

im thankful that I really dont care in these days, but i remember the days when every day made a difference

been with this bank for 2 years, and after 1 month of use they clear checks immidiatly....

Oracle Porn 08-05-2004 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
I have that too, but only up to $1000. If I deposit a check for $10,000 they will clear $1000 immediately but they will hold the other $9000 until the check clears.
nop, no limit.

BRISK 08-05-2004 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
nop, no limit.
Try depositing a check for $1,000,000 and see if they'll clear it immediately.

Oracle Porn 08-05-2004 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Try depositing a check for $1,000,000 and see if they'll clear it immediately.
sure, send me one and I'll tell you how it goes, you know the address right?

speakthetruth 08-05-2004 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Does that also mean when we deposit 6 figure and up checks they don't get to play the bank's scammy float game where they put a 7 business day hold until funds clear?

Let's see if that stops too. And if not what bs excuse they'll use to play with your funds for 7 days.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If they are placing a hold on your 6 figure checks you do not have enough $ in the bank. Banking is about relationships, and how much $ you have in the bank. If my bank told me they were placing a hold on any check I would close my account right then and there.

KRL 08-05-2004 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by speakthetruth
If they are placing a hold on your 6 figure checks you do not have enough $ in the bank. Banking is about relationships, and how much $ you have in the bank. If my bank told me they were placing a hold on any check I would close my account right then and there.
I've only been with one bank that credited any size check right away, which was an LA bank specializing in the entertainment industry so they got lots of large checks. We usually kept about $250,000 to $500,000 in that checking account. Most banks though do have a policy of 5 to 7 day hold on large checks unless its certified or a cashiers check.

gage 08-05-2004 10:49 PM

with direct deposit.. wire transfer, etc... i haven't written a check for ages.. -g

Trixxxia 08-05-2004 10:52 PM

Don't know about the American banking system but haven't seen it at the bank I worked - the only time checks were held on big amounts were with questionable accounts or cheques drawn on US banks cuz they can return the cheque NSF up to 30 days later whereas Canadian banks have a limit of 3 business days.

psyko514 08-05-2004 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
Don't know about the American banking system but haven't seen it at the bank I worked - the only time checks were held on big amounts were with questionable accounts or cheques drawn on US banks cuz they can return the cheque NSF up to 30 days later whereas Canadian banks have a limit of 3 business days.
mind if i ask what bank you worked at?

Trixxxia 08-05-2004 10:58 PM

CIBC - Main branch

Your GF works at Visa, right?

Snake Doctor 08-05-2004 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I've only been with one bank that credited any size check right away, which was an LA bank specializing in the entertainment industry so they got lots of large checks. We usually kept about $250,000 to $500,000 in that checking account. Most banks though do have a policy of 5 to 7 day hold on large checks unless its certified or a cashiers check.
I've noticed my bank holds funds whenever I have a substantial increase in business.
If I deposit roughly the same amount of money every week, regardless of how much it is, they credit it right away.

If I have a really good week, or don't make a deposit one week and deposit double the amount the next week, there's a hold on a portion of the funds.

I think it has something to do with the amount of the deposit VS your average daily balance.

psyko514 08-05-2004 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
CIBC - Main branch

Your GF works at Visa, right?

both of us do, as a matter of fact. i work for TD and she works for CIBC, also at the main branch... you two probably crossed paths a few times!

i'm assuming you used to post here as Trixxxia? i just now put two and two together. congrats on the new position :thumbsup

Trixxxia 08-05-2004 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
both of us do, as a matter of fact. i work for TD and she works for CIBC, also at the main branch... you two probably crossed paths a few times!

i'm assuming you used to post here as Trixxxia? i just now put two and two together. congrats on the new position :thumbsup

Actually I think I stopped working at the branch when she started - I left that branch in 93-94 and went to the one on St-Jacques for a year or two, then went to Place Versailles.

Yes, that is me :) & thanks for the
:thumbsup !

C_U_Next_Tuesday 08-05-2004 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
banks are going to make a fortune in boucned check fees, here is why:

millions of people write checks knowing that it will take 2-3 days to hit their account and then they plan on the next day or so to put the money in to cover it.

They will be in shock when all of a sudden same day boom they get hit with a fee for a bounced check


bingo, they know this and are probably salivating on the chance to make more money off of their clients.

aiken 08-05-2004 11:17 PM

Quote:

banks are going to make a fortune in boucned check fees, here is why:
Perhaps, but decent banks offer you a way around that. I bank with Citibank, and automatically get a credit line for about 3x my average balance. I can write checks based on funds that haven't arrived yet, and as long as I make a deposit to cover them within a few days, there's no interest.

Now, the formerly-cool, now-crappy credit union I used to bank with just moved to 5-day holds for any ATM deposit, regardless of amount, balance, or banking history. *They* were definitely looking for NSF fees.

Cheers
-b

wdsguy 08-05-2004 11:23 PM

interesting read

Paul Markham 08-06-2004 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
I like the idea of checks clearing faster.
They can take 5 weeks to clear here, the banks keep telling us they have to go back to the issueing bank to checked for the signature and funds, etc.

Even checks from Hustler and PRO, who both have more money then the banks and the check is signed by a computer.


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