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Dirty F 08-27-2004 01:43 PM

Hey Dutch guys, anybody know the exact laws about internet and models ages?
 
Is there a site that defines what is and what is not allowed when it comes to internet and models?

Dirty F 08-27-2004 01:49 PM

Im really wondering why im not shooting this 17 yr old model (nonnude). I dont live in the US (where shooting a 17 yr old isnt illegal either anyway). Somebody give me a reason why im not shooting her.

Shes fucking hot and a real money maker i think.

nastyking 08-27-2004 01:49 PM

laws do that :Graucho

Dirty F 08-27-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
laws do that :Graucho
Laws do what?

nastyking 08-27-2004 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Laws do what?
laws not sites say what's allowed or not :winkwink:

non nude with underage models is a grey area and i read in an AVN article that there have been busts in the USA + bad press

and there may be moral issues :Graucho

Dirty F 08-27-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
laws not sites say what's allowed or not :winkwink:

non nude with underage models is a grey area and i read in an AVN article that there have been busts in the USA + bad press

and there may be moral issues :Graucho

And thats why i said i live in Holland. Nobody is gonna arrest me here for shooting a 17 yr old girl. And talking about busts, in the US, what about all the model agency's and shit shooting 15 yr old in undies...why is that no problem? Catwalks, magazines, posters, totally fine but put ONE of those pics on the internet and people start screaming cp.

Dirty F 08-27-2004 01:58 PM

Does the US law state anywhere that you cannot photograph a 17 yr old in undies? Is it forbidden?

nastyking 08-27-2004 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
And thats why i said i live in Holland. Nobody is gonna arrest me here for shooting a 17 yr old girl. And talking about busts, in the US, what about all the model agency's and shit shooting 15 yr old in undies...why is that no problem? Catwalks, magazines, posters, totally fine but put ONE of those pics on the internet and people start screaming cp.
it's a difference if you have 15 yrs old model posing for an icecream advertisement or if she runs her own paysite advertised thru galleries that are posted on TGPs that may contain hardcore pornography

:Graucho

Dirty F 08-27-2004 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
it's a difference if you have 15 yrs old model posing for an icecream advertisement or if she runs her own paysite advertised thru galleries that are posted on TGPs that contain other hardcore pornography

:Graucho

Aha, thats a good point. So does the law say you can shoot a 17 yr old, you can give her a paysite but she cannot be promoted on a site that also contains porn?

Im not being sarcastic or anything, im just wondering what is allowed and what not...and why.

Platinumpimp 08-27-2004 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Im really wondering why im not shooting this 17 yr old model (nonnude). I dont live in the US (where shooting a 17 yr old isnt illegal either anyway). Somebody give me a reason why im not shooting her.

Shes fucking hot and a real money maker i think.

Volgens mij moet dat geen probleem zijn (mits vrijwillig)

nastyking 08-27-2004 02:05 PM

http://www.ageofconsent.com/comments/teenmodellaw.htm

Dirty F 08-27-2004 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by nastyking
http://www.ageofconsent.com/comments/teenmodellaw.htm
Nice, i will read that in a bit.

Mefo 08-27-2004 02:13 PM

Ik denk niet dat je problemen ervan krijgt als je dat doet.....

is de min leeftijd voor hardcore ook niet nog steeds 16 hier in nl?

edit: ik heb er laatst iets over gehoord dat er veranderingen waren dus weet niet of bovenstaande nog klopt...

Doctor Dre 08-27-2004 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Laws do what?
isa regulations ... they don't process under 18 yo sites anymore I think

Dirty F 08-27-2004 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Mefo
Ik denk niet dat je problemen ervan krijgt als je dat doet.....

is de min leeftijd voor hardcore ook niet nog steeds 16 hier in nl?

edit: ik heb er laatst iets over gehoord dat er veranderingen waren dus weet niet of bovenstaande nog klopt...

Yes i believe recently some things were changed...not sure tho.

Dirty F 08-27-2004 02:40 PM

bumpizzle

escorpio 08-27-2004 02:46 PM

Dogs have to be at least 3 years of age. I'm not sure about horses.

Libertine 08-27-2004 03:05 PM

A few years ago, softcore with 16-18 girls was made illegal. Now, girls have to be 18+ to be in adult content.

Ofcourse, non-nude sites that don't implicate anything are legal, just like the Wehkamp and Neckermann catalogues are legal (those contain ads with underage girls in underwear).
The problem is that if you're walking along the edge of being legal, you always have the risk of becoming the victim of a lawsuit to establish a new precedent.
Also remember that parties like the former LPF and the CDA will gladly score some "normen en waarden"-publicity by starting a campaign against a few adult sites.

Dirty F 08-27-2004 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
A few years ago, softcore with 16-18 girls was made illegal. Now, girls have to be 18+ to be in adult content.

Ofcourse, non-nude sites that don't implicate anything are legal, just like the Wehkamp and Neckermann catalogues are legal (those contain ads with underage girls in underwear).
The problem is that if you're walking along the edge of being legal, you always have the risk of becoming the victim of a lawsuit to establish a new precedent.
Also remember that parties like the former LPF and the CDA will gladly score some "normen en waarden"-publicity by starting a campaign against a few adult sites.

Hmm...good points there. Still i see no reason why not to shoot this 17 yr old chick.

NakedBo 08-27-2004 03:54 PM

For nude they have to be 18+ , I don't think there should be a problem with you doing that. I would never do that but thats an other story. Check the rechtswinkel or your lawyer too be sure :2 cents:

Dirty F 08-27-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NakedBo
For nude they have to be 18+ , I don't think there should be a problem with you doing that. I would never do that but thats an other story. Check the rechtswinkel or your lawyer too be sure :2 cents:
Well its not like i REALLY want to shoot a 17 yr old girl, when placing ads i always ask for 18+ girls but today im was wondering why exactly, if theres a point in doing that plus like i mentioned, we bumped into this 17 yr old chick a while back and told her we couldnt shoot her because shes 17 but now im wondering if i should call her or not.

NakedBo 08-27-2004 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Well its not like i REALLY want to shoot a 17 yr old girl, when placing ads i always ask for 18+ girls but today im was wondering why exactly, if theres a point in doing that plus like i mentioned, we bumped into this 17 yr old chick a while back and told her we couldnt shoot her because shes 17 but now im wondering if i should call her or not.
Well check it with a lawyer. They can probably give you an answer on that. I never shoot with girls under 18 no mather what it is, so I honnestly don't know

Nanda 08-27-2004 04:07 PM

http://www.ex.ac.uk/politics/pol_dat...rad/aac/nl.htm

Dirty F 08-27-2004 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Nanda
http://www.ex.ac.uk/politics/pol_dat...rad/aac/nl.htm
Prostitution?

Nanda 08-27-2004 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Prostitution?
No read ....

"The age of consent is 16. This is also the minimum age for visiting a prostitute (not enforced) or acting in a 'soft' pornographic movie (enforced), whereas it is 18 for 'hard core' acting or prostitution work. (More details are available)"

Meaning 16 is ok for softcore, 18 for hardcore...

Dirty F 08-27-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nanda
No read ....

"The age of consent is 16. This is also the minimum age for visiting a prostitute (not enforced) or acting in a 'soft' pornographic movie (enforced), whereas it is 18 for 'hard core' acting or prostitution work. (More details are available)"

Meaning 16 is ok for softcore, 18 for hardcore...

Hmm thats different than what punkworld just said.

nastyking 08-27-2004 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by escorpio
Dogs have to be at least 3 years of age. I'm not sure about horses.
:1orglaugh

Doctor Dre 08-27-2004 10:23 PM

I meant visa by isa btw . Just re-read my post


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