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Help me solve a logic/brain teaser puzzle
Help me with this problem!
Five men and their wives entered the pie eating contest. Bob, Dave, Hank, Larry, and Phil sat across from their wives, who handed them pies as fast as they could eat them. Each man ate a different kind of pie (including peach cream and blueberry). From the information given, determine the name of each man's wife and the kind of pie he ate. 1. Bob did not eat a cream pie 2. Neither Hank nor Nancy's husband ate banana cream pie. 3. The three couples at table number one were Phil and his wife; Fran and her husband; and the man who had cherry cream pie and his wife. At table number two were Dave and his wife, who is not Bonnie; and Kathleen and her husband. who did not eat apple pie. 4. Larry sat between Darla's husband (who did not eat a cream pie) and Hank. The wives names are : Bonnie, Darla, Fran, Kathleen, Nancy Husbands are: Bob, Dave, Hank, Larry, Phil Types of pies are : apple, banana cream, bluebery, cherry cream and peach cream I don't know the answer btw so I won't be able to tell you the answer. But if possible, please also try to explain how you got to the answer that you did and how you drew the diagram because I am super confused and need to figure out how to solve problems like these... It's for a Philosophy Ethics class.... :helpme |
Only thing i can say for sure is that Pierre, the pie chef, had 5 helpings of hair pie while the men ate.
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If you tell me WHY
2*2=4 AND 2+2=4 Then I'll answer your question to perfection. |
I used to do these all the time for fun...
Here's a tip.. draw yourself a grid that has all the husbands names, the wives names and the pie names on the left, and then repeat it all along the top then you can put an X in spots and a Tick in other spots - it will look kind of like three columns along top, then two columns, then one column, so three levels to it, that way it can all be cross-referenced. For example, The first part says that bob did not eat a cream pie.. therefore you can eliminate three of the pies from bob, leaving only apple and blueberry the second part says neither hank nor nancy's husband ate banana cream pie.. so now you can eliminate banana cream pie from hank and you know also that hank is not nancy husband so you can eliminate him from her list this is basically a process of elimination.. again, for part three.. 'phil and his wife, fran and her husband and the man who had cherry cream pie and his wife. at table number two were dave and his wife, who is not bonnie, and kathleen and her husband, who did not eat apple pie' from this you can say the following: phil is not married to fran phil did not eat cherry cream pie fran's husband did not eat cherry cream pie fran's husband is not dave or phil dave is not married to bonnie kathleen is not married to dave or phil kathleen's husband did not eat apple pie I think if you look at it from the logical process of elimination you should be able to read between the lines and get it all together.. hope this helps :thumbsup |
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Phil + Darla = apple Larry + Fran = banana cream Hank + Bonnie = Cherry Cream Table 2 Dave + Nancy = Peach cream Bob + Kathleen= Banana I scored in the 98th percentile on the LSATS, they asked shit like this all the time on the logic/games part :) |
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Thanks a lot Ruth and Ace0r for all your help.
Your method of reasoning is very helpful Ruth! I am going to to go through every word you said one by one and really think about how you deduced the info you did from the statements given. It's very helpful, and I usually have a VERY hard time with puzzles like this, it's hard for my brain to comprehend. I am better at English or reading, but these "logic puzzles" seem more like Math to me. My Philosophy teacher is making us do these puzzles and it also counts towards our grade! If I knew the class was going to have puzzles like these I would have never ever taken the class, but we can take them home and do them, we're never gonna get tested on puzzles or anything. Plus my professor is also in law school right now, so I think she likes to make us suffer with LSAT style questions... thanks a lot! I might have more for you next week ;) |
I like pie...Pie is good
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"I feel obliged to tell you that I do not comprehend logic tests so I would just recruit my friends to do them for me. I only would do this because in the grand scheme of the universe who did it, is not as important as that it was done." |
I can understand any of that
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The irony of that just hit me; it's for an Ethics class... lol |
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Bonnie is giving Hank cherry cream pies. Fran is giving Larry banana cream pies. Darla is giving Phil apple pies. Table two: Nancy is giving Dave peach cream pies. Kathleen is giving Bob Blueberry pies. How it's done: I just drew up two tables. One with 3 rows (table one) and one with two rows (table two). Then you start filling in the data you do know and you begin a simple process of elimination. For example: "Larry sat between Darla's husband (who did not eat a cream pie) and Hank." Between means these people are obviously at the table with 3 couples, as you can't be between someone when there is only one person next to you. So from that, we know that Larry is sitting in the middle, besides Hank and Darla's Husband. So you've got data looking like this already: Table one: Hank/?pie/?wife Larry/?pie/?wife ?husband/?pie/Darla What i then did was listed all the types of pies in a cell for each couple and began crossing them off as i eliminated each one. It's really quite simple once you get going. |
I haven't read the other responses... wanted to do it without looking so I could match my results.
Phil -> Darla -> Apple Larry -> Bonnie -> Banana Cream Hank -> Fran -> Cherry Cream Dave -> Nancy -> Peach Cream Bob -> Kathleen -> Blueberry Hope I didn't fuck it up. It's almost 1:30am here. :helpme |
Hmmm... I've seen 2 other people with larry being married to fran, but to the best that I can see hank can also be married to fran. ie.
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Phil ------- Bonnie(?) ??? ------- Fran/Bonnie(?) ??? ------- Fran/Bonnie(?) Larry sits between darla's husband and hank, the table looks like: Phil ------ Darla Larry ------ Fran/Bonnie(?) Hank ------ Fran/Bonnie(?) There's no further differentiation based on familial relationship, eating preferences or seating that can split up fran and bonnie. Can anyone confirm or refute this? |
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that tells you off the bat that bob is not gay:2 cents: |
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They're all lying. I ate all the pies.
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guess thats a class I wont be taking :)
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yup school is back up
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i have a hedache...:feels-hot
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Phil + darla - banana cream
Larry + Fran - Apple Hank + Bonnie - Cherry Dave + Nancy - Peach Creme Bob + Kathleen - Blueberry Creme Havent double-checked.. but it all fits.. |
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Philosophy/Ethics class? The ethics of pie eating?
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oops.. Correction
Larry + Fran - Banana Creme Hank + Bonnie - Cherry Creme Phil + Darla - Apple Dave + Nancy - Peach Creme Bob + Kathleen - Blueberry |
Now Phogirl.. why did you say in the other thread that Rickholio was right? Did your teacher confirm this?
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Ima gunna go get some pie now.
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<<<--- Next time ask about cake.
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old thread alert
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