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How young is *too* young??
Okay, a friend of mine calls me today and tells me that he is dating a 16 yr old.....and he is 25!!!
Now, as his best friend, I am supposed to play the "support you being happy" thing...which i did, then i called him back and was like "ARE YOU FUCKIN CRAZY???" Her parents are "cool with it".....and my friend said that she is "Really mature for her age..she has a 4.0 in high school....and they connect!" Anyone else see a problem with this???? I always belived that love has no age...but they aint in love.....and the age difference is ..well....DISGUSTING to me! lol Any feedback? |
this happens to the best families also...kidding,i dont see any problem on this since even her parents are ok and the age difference doesnt sound that big.
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I'm sure it isn't that uncommon, but speaking as a dad... you'd probably find a shot gun full of rock salt, if it was tried around here http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif
Once she's eighteen, she can do whatever she wants but the guy could still get charge by the police in most places as it sits now ------------------ Make dirty money from your surfers Dirty Gold Jack Thumbs TGP Search Engine Driven TGP - Pages LISTED INSTANTLY |
speaking as a future dad (2 more months!) I'd probably say ill have to pull the same shotgun technique rip was talking about.
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Regardless of her parents, the right or wrong(depending on how you look at it) gov't offical finds out and he's up the creek without a paddle...
I knew a guy that got a 17year old pregnant when he was 21, when she went to the doctor, they reported it and he got arrested! |
As a parent, I'd definately take the shotgun approach...What the fuck are her parents thinking http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/confused.gif
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Obviously her parents arent thinking. Fortunately I dont have a daughter but I'd beat my son blind if he were 25 and dating a 16 year old...
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It's true that men are a lot less mature then women, but I'd have to say I go with that whole "only dating adults" thing.
I can't imagine being 25 and telling my friends I'm dating a high-school student! |
now i REALLY am going to go to town on you fucks!!! In the UK 16 is legal to fuck, drink alcohol at home and in restaraunts, pose topless in the daily papers, race on the race track professionally, die for the country in the Forces, leave home and set up your own, etc etc - there is no problem with them dating a 25 year old guy!
In 1929 it was perfectly legal (and acceptable) for a 25 yo guy to marry a 12 year old lass - discuss. |
In a lot of states, 16 is legal. But if I were you babagirls, I would call him up, call him a sick fucking pervert, and tell him to date someone his own age.
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How much "in common" do a 25 year old and a 16 year old really have ???
Do they just go to BASKIN-ROBBINS on dates ?? Our society sets certain standards (and for good reasons) that do not permit you to do certain things until you are an adult. I have a friend who is 35, and 2 years ago when he was 33, he married a woman who was 54. They are very happy, still honeymooning as a matter of fact, and I have no problems with that at all, since they are both mature adults. As we get older, age differecnes (no matter which way they go) do not matter as much ... but until you have become an adult, it matters very much !! Let's look at it this way ... she is 16, and he is 25 ... only 9 years, right ??? What if he were 17, and she was EIGHT ?!? And the fact that they are not even in love ???????? He is a fucking fool !!! If they were truly "IN LOVE" than my advice to him would be to keep it very low profile until she turns 18 ...and keep his pecker in his pants until then too !!! Let's see what tune HER parents are whistling when she comes home pregnant in 3 or 4 months ????????? As a teen, I had a friend who was 17 and dating a 13 year old ... we all told him he was fucking CRAZY ... eventually he got bored of not being able to take her to even a restricted movie .... it took him 8 months, but he finally wised up, and has dated within his own age bracket ever since. ------------------ http://www.exxxtrememedia.com/embut.gif A boneprone Family Member :D |
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Just kidding, don't freak out - my g/f is even 8 months older than me (almost 22).
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Good thing Chuckie Cheese's doesn't card for pepsi! A 25 yo with a 16 yo? They're connecting alright...
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ya gotta admit tho, the friend is living every mans dream, but theres the obvious reason why its only a dream and not reality.
whats bad these days is how a 12 year old looks 17. |
If I were that girls dad I would beat the shit out of that advantage taking horny fucking demented bastard! RA!
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can't we just do the homer simpson where you cover your eyes before/while you do the deed and say "its not illegal if i don't see it"
i re-read the main post. 16-25 is a pretty sick combo. i'm 21 and i wouldn't even date a 16 year old. 18 is my min. and also, you never know, that girl could be some skanky slut. ------------------ Maxxx Orbison: Put your tongue in her mouth, for Christ's sake! Joe Young: How would Christ benefit from me putting my tongue in someone's mouth? |
lol i bet they are both skanky sluts
when she was 10 he was 19, ewwwww |
Actually the age of consent varies from state to state in the US. If he is going to transport her across state lines, she must be 18 [I believe] in order to not run afoul of the FEDERAL law against transporting minors for illicit sex.
Also, if he was 17, in most states it's no crime since the age prohibition kicks in when the "offender" is 18 and over. To be safe, check the statutory rape provisions applicable to your state at findlaw.com or hg.com or other free legal resource sites. Good Luck to your friend, PimpLink Quote:
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Okay, i read all the posts...some made me laugh lol
Okay, what makes this even WORSE is that he is on probabation and his case is still pending for something that happend last year. And he (my friend) told her (the 16 yr old) to not tell ANYONE! And i agree with that one post .."How much can a 16 and 25 yr old have in common..." He said they have everything in common EXCEPT she doesnt understand how much he LOVES to ride sport bikes (which is his LIFE!) so i still dont know what to think/say! |
when I was in highschool some of my friends had to do a research on statuatory rape... that is automatic conviction when an adult is having sex with a minor..
I believe, if I remmember correctly, that if the girl is younger than 14, it's automatic conviction, and after that, it's 4 years difference.. that is, as soon as there is 4 years difference and the girl is minor, they automatically are convicted, no matter if love there is or something... so a 16 year old could date a 19 year old, but not a 20 year old or something... so if the guy is REALLY in love, be sure to let him know his life is at stake http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif |
Im 23 and even tho i have seen some cute 16 year olds that look like they might be 18 i would never even think about it. That kind of shit gets you thrown in jail.
Why would he want to date someone that not only cant go to the clubs with him or anything 21 and over that is some sad shit http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/frown.gif I know people that would date 16 year olds and they are all after just 1 thing. |
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It varies by state - plain in simple. In MD - I could have sex with a sixteen year old if I was 120. Take note:
1) You can be convicted for statutory rape (In MD - it is called 2nd or 4th degree sex offense.) EVEN IF THE GIRL LIES TO YOU AND TELLS YOU SHE IS 18 - or 21. There was a case where a girl was in a bar and a guy picked her up - she was using a fake ID and they guy was convicted. 2) Some states have weird laws. Some punish the guy but not the girl, and this held up on appeal (holding that women were different, because they could get pregnant). 3) Magnatiques analysis of canadian law is somewhat close to MD law. In MD - you have to be 4 or more years older than the girl to be convicted. Age 14 and 15 is 4th degree sex offense (I believe it is a maximum of 1 year) and Age 13 or lower will get you 10 or 20 (Can't remember which). 4) If you are really concerned - you should look up the law yourself. It changes - and varies by state. I know attorneys that are not familiar with the law - as it really isn't used that often. Here is a handy guide: http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm Remember it is just a guide - go to the law library and look up the law yourself if you need to know. 5) Personally - I think when someone is 16 - they are old enough to make their own decisions. I think many of these laws are throwbacks to when women were property. Fathers claim all sorts of things, but the truth is - will you really be happy knowing your daughter is blowing some guy - even if she is 21? It almost reminds me of those female mutilations. Laws aren't gonna keep your daugther a virgin - there are plenty of legal boys that will be happy to deflower her. My dad thinks the age of consent for my sister should be either marriage or death - and that is really liberal thinking on his part. 18 is no magic line - Juliet was 13. Perceptions change. |
ALL THE LAWS ARE WRONG!!
The lines which define the age at which a person is mature is very blurred. But, maturity has nothing to do with it. If a 25 year old man wants to go to a bar and find a girl who is over 21 or over 18 or whatever to fuck then that makes him no more mature than the same man wanting to fuck a teen girl under 18. As far as maturity is concerned: it's moot. People of all ages have sex because they want to have sex and we as humans have sex for many different reasons but all the reasons for having sex are the same no matter what age you are. I see nothing wrong with a 25 year old and a 16 year old together. You can give me any combination of ages. It doesn't matter. If 2 people consent then that's enough. If they don't consent then it's rape and that's very wrong. But there should be no such thing as statutory rape. It goes against our nature and makes us question ourselves for no reason. |
well, the topic was ...
is it wrong for a 25 yr old man to date a 16 yr old gurl........ i just think that, in itself , is kinda icky... the sex issue is a hole new ballgame LOL |
The only reason I think it's icky is because of the structure society is in. I certainly wouldn't want to be taking a girl to her prom, but in all honesty - I get along with some 40 year olds and some around 16.
If things were different - would I date a 16 year old - sure... |
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One thing has always puzzled me. It's a related question to the original one: It's illegal (under Federal law) to photograph a person under 18 engaging in sexual activities. Suppose, however, that you are an 18 year old married to a 17 year old, and the 18 year old is taking pictures of his wife. Now, make them both 17 years old. How does the law apply? While it's true that there are 18 year olds who are very mature and 50 year olds who are still emotional children, the law has to have SOME standards and those standards, in order to be practical to enforce, will have to be mere stipulations (in other words, they will simply be a line drawn in the temporal sand). Otherwise, every decision would have to involve a committee of psychologists, who would rarely agree with one another. ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World |
It's child pornography. You could actually be 16 - take pictures of your girlfriend that is 17 - post 'em on the internet and get in trouble for child pornography.
In the feds eyes - the woman doesn't have the right to consent until she is 18. Now - as already discussed - a 50 year old man could have sex with a 16 year old - and that would be legal. |
well, after lookin at several Law Sites for the age of consent, i decided to open up the Yellow Pages and call an attorney and ask flat out...
"My friend is 25 and he is dating & engaging in sexual intercourse with a 16 yr old...what is the age of consent?" The attorney told me "Everytime he has sex with her, he is committing a felony!" I then asked.."Her parents know....does that make it okay?" He replied..."No! Until she is 18, with or without the parents giving the thumbs up, he is committing a felon every time they have intercourse." So, i said "thank you" and hung up..... *sigh* So, there ya have it! |
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What about ass licking? Would that be a felony too?
You should ask your lawyer if it's ok for somebody to lick the ass of a minor. Lawyers like questions like this...gives their job meaning. Ask him if it's illegal even if there is no penetration with the toung. My friend Dank would like to know. |
I'm hearing a lot of fascist bullshit -- most of you have all been brainwashed.
Burn all the birth certificates and destroy all the clocks and calendars and we are still here -- fucking *real* people. You can tell me I'm 25 or 666 or ABC -- in the end those are just fucking numbers and sounds. We are *real* fucking people without all those labels. Do I need a fucking social security number stamped on my forehead? This is all fucking sick. Dank is the only hope left for humanity. Please no longer refer to me as TheFLY -- I am now a whisper fallen on deaf ears. ------------------ http://www.boneprone-4-life.com/elite/medal.jpg ...from the nectar of the Bone flows all that clicks... |
Babagirls,
Did he tell you what the age of consent is? Be careful with attorneys - people think they know the law - they don't. If it is not in their area of expertise, many do not know it. Just letting you know from experience. I have proven attorneys wrong again and again. I am NOT saying he is, but if your exchange is accurate - he did not answer your question. Also, keep in mind that when attorneys do not know - a standard tactic is err on the side of caution to be safe. This Happens all the time. Your best bet is look up the law yourself and if it conflicts with what the attorney say - challenge him or her on it. I do this all the time - do not trust attorneys. You didn't say what your research told you. If both agree - than fine, if not... For example - I am not sure where he lives, but if it is WI: "948.09 Sexual intercourse with a child age 16 or older. Whoever has sexual intercourse with a child who is not the defendant's spouse and who has attained the age of 16 years is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor." Notice that it is not a felony. I do not believe in most states at 16 it would be. Most have degrees. Note: "948.02 Sexual assault of a child. (1) FIRST DEGREE SEXUAL ASSAULT. Whoever has sexual contact or sexual inter-course with a person who has not attained the age of 13 years is guilty of a Class B felony. (2) SECOND DEGREE SEXUAL ASSAULT. Whoever has sexual contact or sexual intercourse with a person who has not attained the age of 16 years is guilty of a Class BC felony. unreasonable risk of harm to and demonstrates a conscious disre-gard for the safety of the child. (2) INTENTIONAL CAUSATION OF BODILY HARM. (a) Whoever intentionally causes great bodily harm to a child is guilty of a Class C felony. (b) Whoever intentionally causes bodily harm to a child is" And you have to be careful with definitions as well - just by reading the law - it would appear the age of consent is 18 - it is not. It is 17: "948.01 Definitions. In this chapter, the following words and phrases have the designated meanings unless the context of a spe-cific section manifestly requires a different construction: (1) ?Child? means a person who has not attained the age of 18 years, except that for purposes of prosecuting a person who is alleged to have violated a state or federal criminal law, ?child? does not include a person who has attained the age of 17 years. (6) ?Sexual intercourse? means vulvar penetration as well as cunnilingus, fellatio or anal intercourse between persons or any other intrusion, however slight, of any part of a person?s body or of any object into the genital or anal opening either by the defen-dant or upon the defendant?s instruction. The emission of semen is not required." Just my 2 cents, because most lawyers are useless. |
Well I hate to say it, but this kind of shit happens all the time where I live. Fuck there's a freakin billboard on the main highway that says real men don't get teenagers pregnant!
Anyway, you guys saying that if it was my daughter I'd... Well you need to look at it from this angle, one it's not a matter of age of consent, it's ethics and morals. Teens should be exploring sexual situations with people their own age, not being taken advantage of by a dirtbag, who can't handle someone his own age. These guys are predators, the girl isn't his equal, and he probably takes all her money, and hangs out with his friends, and the poor girl thinks he LOVES her. You said the guy is on probation, probably not his first or last offense, and this situation will be a major tragedy for the young girl. Bottom line, it's just wrong... |
actaully, my friend (the 25 yr old ) is on probabation for something that isnt really his fault. He was set up. It was a drug-related charge.
This whole 16 yr old thing is bothering him. He feels like a "child molester" (thats what he told me.) He has known this girl for over a year now, and they have feelings for each other. And they BOTH are broke fuckers, and they are not using each other for money or anything. I'm not trying to defend him, cause I think its wrong ! I am just stating the situation to you guys. In my mind, if they REALLY cared for each other, they would wait till she matured a couple more years. And if she really cared for him, then she wouldnt jeapordize him getting in trouble (since he is a felon already, if he gets busted for this, he is FUCKED!) Thats why I dont support this AT ALL!! |
People just assume because some one is older that they are trying to take advantage of the other person; This is not true. People are people. There is no reason a 25 year old can not fall in love with a 16 year old.
A few years ago I dated a girl that was significantly younger than me. She works for MIT, is very mature, and has a great sense of humor. I really did care for her. I am not one who cares what society thinks. I was in a situation where we met and we liked each other. There was nothing wrong with it, but people frowned upon it. Screw them. Was I supposed to not go out with her just because she was younger? That seems to me to be the more stupid thing. Unfortunately, people will look down upon him. It is a fact of life. I bet it is really bothering him. I think the age of consent in that state is 17 (WI). If he REALLY is interested in seeing her - I would find a criminal defense attorney that REALLY will look up the law to find out if it is 17 or not. He also may be able to terminate his probation early - this is easy to do in some area if he has been on it for a while (usually a claim of desire to move out of state will do it). When I looked up the law, there was no case law on it, which means no one ever appealed it in a reported decision. This usually means it is not enforced that much. I don't know how close she is to 17, but: Even if she turned 17 and the age of consent was 17 - this does not prevent them from going after him before she was 17 - so it is important to get off probation. Good luck to your friend... |
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>Well you need to look at it from this angle, >one it's not a matter of age of consent, >it's ethics and morals.
Who's ethics? Who's morals? >Teens should be exploring sexual situations >with people their own age, not being taken Teens are real living people. You can't tell them what they *should* be doing with their sexuality. That's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. How would you like someone else telling you what to do sexually -- GO FUCK YOURSELF! >advantage of by a dirtbag, who can't handle >someone his own age. These guys are How would you know -- unless you were the dirtbag???? Ahhhhhhhhhhhh! >predators, the girl isn't his equal, and he >probably takes all her money, and hangs out >with his friends, and the poor girl thinks >he LOVES her. What right do you have to make value judgements like this -- who is your "equal"? Do you only fuck women that are your "equal" ? And what fucking right do you have (or anyone for that matter) to decide whether or not two people love each other? That's the sickest thing I've ever heard. Anyway forget about love for a minute -- There's nothing more natural and uncorrupted than a young person's curiousity -- curiousity of their body, affection, etc. When you tell a young person that what they are doing sexually is "wrong" -- you permanently put to death a part of their natural curiousity, reinforce your own insecurities and fears and narrow view of the world, and set up this young person to feel shameful about their own natural body and feelings -- so that they can fuck up *their* children's natural sexuality. To me that is wrong... When was the last time you gave someone affection openly in public? That's right -- you don't -- because you've been so fucked up by your own parents... The only way you know how to touch someone affectionately is what someone else told you -- or what you read or heard somewhere -- you've been too fucked up by your parents to explore your own natural curiousities... >You said the guy is on probation, probably >not his first or last offense, and this >situation will be a major tragedy for the >young girl. You don't even know the guy or the girl personally -- and how the fuck can you assume that this guy is going to be arrested again? >Bottom line, it's just wrong... Translated: (To me) it's just wrong. That's your opinion which doesn't amount to a pile of shit. Notice how everyone jumped onto the shotgun bandwagon. Well I don't want to think about this issue so I'll just join in on the shutgun thing and then not only do I not have to think about the issue but other people already agree with me so I can't be wrong. Since when does violence solve anything. What do you use a shotgun for -- to KILL. So in other words -- if someone doesn't follow your "ethics and morals" -- you'll just kill that person or threaten to kill that person!? A lot of you people really fucking scare me. Why don't you point your shotgun at your own daughter. Wow that would solve a lot of problems. Why don't you fucking think about what you're saying... How would it feel if I pointed a shotgun to your head just because I thought you were a dumb fuck? |
I agree The Fly and I don't put much stock in the opinions of people that can't use basic english words such as "too".
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dating 16 or 17 yr old girls?!
First of all it would be wrong and it's against all rules! But what would do you do if her name was Anna Kournikova, huh? I know what I'll do http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif |
younger then 18 is too young!
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The Fly is right and when I type fast I make some mistakes, who give a fuck!
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it's "THAN"!!!
You know we do learn these things in 3rd grade... |
Well, it's very understanding if you're from Holland. Such mistakes do happen very often http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif
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So what if the boy was just 18 for 1 day and the girl will be 18 in one day?
It's the same but is it wrong? Were is the limit? 6 months is not much a year is not much either... It's all about how they feel about it not what we think. |
There is a horrible, perfect, brilliant moment in this film when Harper's society-bitch mother (Jean Smart) finds out about their relationship and comes to call. She stalks the shabby loft in her expensive clothes, she smokes a cigarette with such style that he puts his own out, and in icy disdain she says, "What do you have against women your own age?" And answers her own question: "I know exactly what she has that I haven't got... Awe."
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I *TOTALLY* agree with TheFly !!!!
Everything you said!! Like i said in the very first post, I belive that love has no age. HOWEVER, they are not in love. They "like" each other. And he is a really good friend of mine, and knowing that everytime they have sex (which is often, according to him) then the more chances that he will get in even MORE trouble! He is already a felon, and everytime he sleeps with her, he is committing a felony! (according to the attorney i spoke with yesterday.) So, I am not happy that my friend might end up back in jail...and for a VERY long time because of some 16 yr old pussy!!! I know that sounds bad, but if they arent in love, then thats all it is! PUSSY!! (excuse my language) Thats my thoughts on the situation...... |
Ya know, I had this long drawn out pissing match starting about this topic, and the personal attacks you decided to throw at me fly, but you know what? It doesn't matter, because you're right, my opinion doesn't mean shit in this matter, the guy will be in jail, and the girl will be in therapy, or it could end up happily ever after on welfare with 15 kids, either way, it's not my life, and I should have just stayed out of it and focused on what is important to me, which is porn and making money. Because we all know opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they usually stink!
Oh, and TheFly, GO FUCK YOURSELF, and have a good time doing it http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif [This message has been edited by pensfan (edited 08-11-2001).] |
well, it was cool to get some feedback! And i appreciate it....
I saw my friend today and he told me that he thinks he is falling in love. So i hope it turns out to be one of those gonna-marry-her-someday things LOL Cause he turns 26 years old next week.....thats a 10 yr differnce! God, does that sound bad! LOL Anyways, more power to them i guess.... |
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