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Libertine 11-25-2004 04:12 PM

WMD found in Iraq!
 
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

So, now that Saddam is gone, WMD are indeed being made in Iraq. The irony :1orglaugh

Basic_man 11-25-2004 04:15 PM

Where's the MASS DESTRUCTION in that shit ? It's a fuckin' small lab ! :warning

Peacemaker 11-25-2004 04:16 PM

dont you see all those bombs?
:1orglaugh

Libertine 11-25-2004 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Basic_man
Where's the MASS DESTRUCTION in that shit ? It's a fuckin' small lab ! :warning
Chemical weapons are classified among weapons of mass destruction. Duh.

Peacemaker 11-25-2004 04:19 PM

well, those are not the "WMDs" (erhm) of Saddam but of the Rebels.

thats a difference

kenny 11-25-2004 04:19 PM

It doesn't take a truck load to cause mass destruction..

But I don't think thats what they were looking for.

Saddam had tons of the stuff just ask Iran and the kurds

Peacemaker 11-25-2004 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
It doesn't take a truck load to cause mass destruction..

But I don't think thats what they were looking for.

Saddam had tons of the stuff just ask Iran and the kurds

"Saddam had tons of the stuff just ask Iran and the kurds"

IwantU lpoveda 11-25-2004 04:23 PM

Quote:

"Saddam had tons of the stuff just ask Iran and the kurds"
THAT'S TRUE...PROVIDED BY THE US GOV.


:ak47:

kenny 11-25-2004 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peacemaker
"Saddam had tons of the stuff just ask Iran and the kurds"
Which leads to the question

Where the fuck is it ?

Peacemaker 11-25-2004 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
Which leads to the question

Where the fuck is it ?

empty? j/k :)

kenny 11-25-2004 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IwantU lpoveda
THAT'S TRUE...PROVIDED BY THE US GOV.


:ak47:

When sombody goes postal and kills people with a gun you don't go and blame the guy who owns the gun store:winkwink:

Libertine 11-25-2004 04:25 PM

Fucking hell, you people are stupid.

Irony => chemical weapons are being manufactured NOW THAT SADDAM IS GONE.

No, these are not Saddam's wmd. That's the whole fucking point.

Oh, and for those who think it takes a lot to kill loads of people: I dare you to take 10 mg of VX.

sherie 11-25-2004 04:27 PM

LMFAO if that's the case they best start bombing homes in the US, I've seen meth-labs bigger then that on Cops that could cause more damage!

(I got what you were saying re the irony)

69pornlinks 11-25-2004 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peacemaker
"Saddam had tons of the stuff just ask Iran and the kurds"
doesn't matter 'us' must get rid of the evildoers so america and israel can live in peace :winkwink:

Peacemaker 11-25-2004 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Fucking hell, you people are stupid.

Irony => chemical weapons are being manufactured NOW THAT SADDAM IS GONE.

No, these are not Saddam's wmd. That's the whole fucking point.

Oh, and for those who think it takes a lot to kill loads of people: I dare you to take 10 mg of VX.

excuse me, but i got your point and i agree :P

Violetta 11-25-2004 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 69pornlinks
doesn't matter 'us' must get rid of the evildoers so america and israel can live in peace :winkwink:
Lets hope bush can do that

69pornlinks 11-25-2004 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Fucking hell, you people are stupid.

Irony => chemical weapons are being manufactured NOW THAT SADDAM IS GONE.

No, these are not Saddam's wmd. That's the whole fucking point.

Oh, and for those who think it takes a lot to kill loads of people: I dare you to take 10 mg of VX.

lol, the media will play it up like... see we need more troops (draft) to contain these 'insurgents' becasue they'll fly over here and kill us all, the sheep don't think, so it will work....

Libertine 11-25-2004 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 69pornlinks
lol, the media will play it up like... see we need more troops (draft) to contain these 'insurgents' becasue they'll fly over here and kill us all, the sheep don't think, so it will work....
You have a really big imagination :2 cents:

Peacemaker 11-25-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
You have a really big imagination :2 cents:
i would be rather paranoid than a sheep :)

Libertine 11-25-2004 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peacemaker
i would be rather paranoid than a sheep :)
As the people on this board so aptly prove, it is quite possible to be both.

69pornlinks 11-25-2004 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
You have a really big imagination :2 cents:
no, it's the truth...i mean the cia hired hollywood in help in predicting what type of 'attacks' 'terrorist' will try next...i know the us media, i know the average american is easily scared..all they have to do is say, we have every right to be over there becasue they're building WMD's.....the sheep is not thinking haha, what about saddamn alleged WMD's...america must/need an emeny

Juggernaut 11-25-2004 04:39 PM

Looks like a small table with a few beakers and jars on it... Hardly what I'd call "the smoking gun".

I've seen bigger labs on the nightly news in relation to illegal drugs :2 cents:

kenny 11-25-2004 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Juggernaut
Looks like a small table with a few beakers and jars on it... Hardly what I'd call "the smoking gun".

I've seen bigger labs on the nightly news in relation to illegal drugs :2 cents:

Thats not what they were looking for as stated many times already.

And it doesn't very much of those chemicals at all which was also stated more then ounce.

Illegal drug lab is different then a weapons lab.

kenny 11-25-2004 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 69pornlinks
no, it's the truth...i mean the cia hired hollywood in help in predicting what type of 'attacks' 'terrorist' will try next...i know the us media, i know the average american is easily scared..all they have to do is say, we have every right to be over there becasue they're building WMD's.....the sheep is not thinking haha, what about saddamn alleged WMD's...america must/need an emeny
There is also the "America is a evil empire that dictates the people" conspiracy sheep as well

IwantU lpoveda 11-25-2004 05:15 PM

Quote:

When sombody goes postal and kills people with a gun you don't go and blame the guy who owns the gun store
That's a really bad example... but if you want to refer to the US GOV as a Gun Store. Let me ask you this what if the gun store... trains, support and encourage the killer?


Or you want to forget that the US Gov supported Iraq against the IRAN Islamic revolution?

The US Gov likes to create monsters only to destroy them later...


:ak47:

kenny 11-25-2004 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IwantU lpoveda
That's a really bad example... but if you want to refer to the US GOV as a Gun Store. Let me ask you this what if the gun store... trains, support and encourage the killer?


Or you want to forget that the US Gov supported Iraq against the IRAN Islamic revolution?

The US Gov likes to create monsters only to destroy them later...


:ak47:

I am almost certain it didn't quite go down that way..

Do you have any proof of a US transaction of WMD to Iraq ?

A simple link or something.. I am not saying I don't believe you.. but the only place I ever hear about it is on message boards

IwantU lpoveda 11-25-2004 05:26 PM

Here you go my friend:

http://www.fas.org/irp/gulf/cia/960702/72566_01.htm

Libertine 11-25-2004 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
I am almost certain it didn't quite go down that way..

Do you have any proof of a US transaction of WMD to Iraq ?

A simple link or something.. I am not saying I don't believe you.. but the only place I ever hear about it is on message boards

US companies sold the basic ingredients for chemical weapons to Iraq. So, the US government did not provide Iraq with chemical weapons. However, the US did allow the basic ingredients for WMD to be sold to Iraq (even after Iraq had used chemical weapons) knowing what they would be used for.
It is speculated that the US government also gave information on how to develop WMD, but that's exactly what it is - speculation.

I don't really feel like looking up the information on it again, but these are the facts, which you will find if you look it up yourself (probably a good idea).

Dead13 11-25-2004 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
I am almost certain it didn't quite go down that way..

Do you have any proof of a US transaction of WMD to Iraq ?

A simple link or something.. I am not saying I don't believe you.. but the only place I ever hear about it is on message boards

Its not a secret dude, the Pentagon has been quite honest about it in fact. I don't have a link for you but if you search you'll find something. The U.S. provided Iraq with weapons during the war with Iran because they were fighting a "common enemy".

Mr. Mike 11-25-2004 05:41 PM

Media's best friend. Prolly milk this for a month now.

kenny 11-25-2004 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
Its not a secret dude, the Pentagon has been quite honest about it in fact. I don't have a link for you but if you search you'll find something. The U.S. provided Iraq with weapons during the war with Iran because they were fighting a "common enemy".
Then 10 years later Saddam got a little crazy and decided to invade Kuwait

America/UN stopped him and he hated us since

Things do change through time.

A half century ago we were dropping nukes on Japan

kenny 11-25-2004 05:44 PM

I don't think the United States had it planned out to Iraq weapons and then start a war with Iraq 20 years later..

Theo 11-25-2004 05:47 PM

WTF, my kitchen on CNN!

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/me....chemicals.jpg

kenny 11-25-2004 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
WTF, my kitchen on CNN!

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/me....chemicals.jpg

You manufacture chemical agents in your kitchen ?

Theo 11-25-2004 05:52 PM

no, turkey :(

Clicky_Bucks 11-25-2004 05:54 PM

One of those containers, if it had the right chemical, could take out an entire city. Man, I thought there were intelligent people here.

So if it doesn't look to be alot, then it must be fine! :thumbsup

kenny 11-25-2004 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
no, turkey :(
:1orglaugh

kenny 11-25-2004 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clicky_Bucks
One of those containers, if it had the right chemical, could take out an entire city. Man, I thought there were intelligent people here.

So if it doesn't look to be alot, then it must be fine! :thumbsup

People compared it to a drug lab..

Even if so have you ever seen the size of a dose of LSD ? :winkwink:

Doctor Dre 11-25-2004 05:57 PM

Watch how bush will flip this one arround

directfiesta 11-25-2004 08:11 PM

I better clean up my basement ...

pxxx 11-25-2004 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peacemaker
dont you see all those bombs?
:1orglaugh

Exactly what i was thinking. LMAO.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

xclusive 11-25-2004 08:15 PM

There is lots more of the stuff out there and it will show up eventually and I just hope that we find it before it is deployed...

Dead13 11-25-2004 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
I don't think the United States had it planned out to Iraq weapons and then start a war with Iraq 20 years later..
I totally agree with you, I was not trying to make the point that there was a conspiracy to supply Iraq with weapons so we could ambush them later, only supplying the fact that we had been in business with them in the past.

But this is the flaw our leaders seem to never learn, just because they are your allies now does not mean they always will be, yet our presidents still seem to think we should give out weapons to every card shark who happens to hate the same people we hate, only to turn those same weapons against us in the future. It has happened like this countless times in our history yet they still follow the same policy thinking this time it will be different.

Our I should specify, "hostile allies".

kenny 11-25-2004 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
I totally agree with you, I was not trying to make the point that there was a conspiracy to supply Iraq with weapons so we could ambush them later, only supplying the fact that we had been in business with them in the past.

But this is the flaw our leaders seem to never learn, just because they are your allies now does not mean they always will be, yet our presidents still seem to think we should give out weapons to every card shark who happens to hate the same people we hate, only to turn those same weapons against us in the future. It has happened like this countless times in our history yet they still follow the same policy thinking this time it will be different.

Our I should specify, "hostile allies".

Good post.

You made the point alot better then I can in my current state :glugglug

Dead13 11-25-2004 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clicky_Bucks
One of those containers, if it had the right chemical, could take out an entire city. Man, I thought there were intelligent people here.

So if it doesn't look to be alot, then it must be fine! :thumbsup

And I am sure they would store these chemicals in plastic bottles (however tightly sealed, possibly with child-proof lids) on a kitchen counter in plain view.

"Hey Musab take a wif of dis shit man!"

"Woah Musherief! Careful that shit can kill you!"

"Ya man, I like, made it to whipe out an entire city block!"

"Hey Mutaph, Anybody got a match?"

directfiesta 11-25-2004 08:31 PM

So what if there is chemical weapons ...
What's the fucking problem ????

After all, it is the US that are using them....

Quote:

IRAQ:
'Unusual Weapons' Used in Fallujah

Dahr Jamail


BAGHDAD, Nov 26 (IPS) - The U.S. military has used poison gas and other non-conventional weapons against civilians in Fallujah, eyewitnesses report..

?Poisonous gases have been used in Fallujah,? 35-year-old trader from Fallujah Abu Hammad told IPS. ?They used everything -- tanks, artillery, infantry, poison gas. Fallujah has been bombed to the ground.?

Hammad is from the Julan district of Fallujah where some of the heaviest fighting occurred. Other residents of that area report the use of illegal weapons.

?They used these weird bombs that put up smoke like a mushroom cloud,? Abu Sabah, another Fallujah refugee from the Julan area told IPS. ?Then small pieces fall from the air with long tails of smoke behind them.?

He said pieces of these bombs exploded into large fires that burnt the skin even when water was thrown on the burns. Phosphorous weapons as well as napalm are known to cause such effects. ?People suffered so much from these,? he said.

...

http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=26440
After all, it wouldn't be the first time ....


BTW, while the US supplied the raw chemicals to gas the Iranians, they were supplying the same Iranians with weapons in the " Iran-Contra affair "....

:1orglaugh

Dead13 11-25-2004 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
BTW, while the US supplied the raw chemicals to gas the Iranians, they were supplying the same Iranians with weapons in the " Iran-Contra affair "....

:1orglaugh

Good point, I completly forgot about that. :thumbsup

pornguy 11-25-2004 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
When sombody goes postal and kills people with a gun you don't go and blame the guy who owns the gun store:winkwink:

which country are you from????

They not only blame the gun store that sold it, but the company that makes them.


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