Someone smarter than me explain NATS.
 

I've been seeing it alot.

"We use NATS!"
"No shaving cause of NATS!"

NATS NATS and more NATS.

Someone please explain to me (because I'm obviously technologically inferior) how NATS operates in lay-mans terms. Thanks!
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mmm its an affilate backend without a shave feature built in that they claim cant be manipulated to shave

http://nats.toomuchmedia.com/features.html

No shave features

And has this been proven? :)

And where in there is shaving discussed?

Anything can be shaven, but NATS itself doesn't have any shave features built in. They will also terminate the license of anyone caught shaving.

People are missing the biggest thing with NATS: it works and works well.
it's great software to run/manage an affiliate program and has several kickass features.

look if a sponsor wants to shave they will regardless of what they use, so far thou its been clear nats doesnt support it.

NATS has ways to check if you're shaving or not. They will revoke the license of any sponsor who shaves.

That's enough of a worry for any program owner NOT to shave.

Thanks for the info Syk.... It is true that any system can be "circumvented", but if what you say is true.... NATS is heading torward an industry stardard IMHO.

One of my great sponsors BrainCash (CLICK SIG NOW) just converted to NATS. They were paying awesome before, but if what you say is true I have every confidence that that will continue.

Bling.

Nope no company has steped forward and said that they shave using nats
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Thanks!

How does that compare to this?
Taken from an unnamed sponsors page.

You're killin me! It's early! LMAO :1orglaugh

"Why promote XYZ? Simple!! We shave shit hard using NATS! Join now and promote away!"

HAHAHAHAH

I agree
they are doing very well
the most honest company in the world isn't worth it if their software doesn't work....

I'm not familiar with their (Braincash) old tracking system, but I know with some sponsors who've switched to NATS for my own personal traffic, the ratios see a little different, but I think that has more to do with how the software counts clicks moreso than the actual proigram and/or software. In my findings, it's a little more accurate.

hehe meatcash is the unnamed sponsor
you got worrys they shave ya?

Sounds like NATS is definately the way to go...

LMAO.... nope. You nailed it.... I don't have any reason to believe they are shaving. I certainly would never point the finger at anyone without proof. Truth be told, on my webmaster page www.themasturbationstation.com/webmasters.html certain MC programs are rockin....


I want to differentiate the difference in affiliate stats however.

Interesting.... I don't know what BC was running before but I always knew it was legit anyway. Shit, I'm a teeny webmaster and they responded to ANY concern I had within minutes. The only change I've noticed since they went to NATS like a week ago is the way I view stats.... no biggie. Sales ratios are still in line.

$12,500 full price.
Wonder what one can get custom built for that price

The not shaving is cool, not sure I'd like to let some other company monitor sales and all though

I use nats to shave my affiliates. Contact met to get setup!

I'm so fuckin on board! I love shaving.... in the morning... the evening... and more! Tell me how, Tell me how!
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well the first thing you do is design a big flashy page with cars and money all over it. That way your affiliates are non the wiser. Then you tell them you use NATS so its impossible to shave. You have your programmer make a quick php script to shave at the first level before nats can even touch it. Then when affiliates ask why thier ratio sucks you tell them they suck and kick them off your program! :Graucho

Oh shit! I've been sucked in for years by the cars and flashy cash webpages! FUCK!

I'm gonna design a new program... if I use lots of pictures of stacks of money and hot bitches can I start screwing people? I'm thinking of using NATS. I'll be like "It's physically, emotionally, and beyond the laws of physics for BlingCash to shave you! As a matter of fact, Sir Issac Newton was a BlingCash affiliate! He shaved with a razor even back then! We don't need razors here... cause we use NATS! What does NATS stand for? "Never Again Theivin Shavers!" Thats what!"

How does that sound? Is it cool?
LMAO Bling.

ah I was curious what the big deal was as well, finally i undertsand lol

I would use them but they do not off a payment mod for merchant account gateways. At least not the one I am using.

ahhhhhh.... so thats how its done. :bowdown

They shave, just like all the sponors. NO sponsor in their right mind would use NATS if it lived up to its own bullshit.

Come meet us and see our software in person at booth #851 @ Internext and you will understand why NATS is growing as quickly as it is.

Or stop by one of our demonstration and Q&A seminars on the 5th during the show. http://www.getnats.com/seminar.html

You may just want to contact them about this and see if they will work with you on creating one. They didn't support Netbillings gateway for our merchant account either but they worked with us and made it work. It took a while but it was worth the wait.

And unlike a lot of software providers we do not charge the client to integrate a new gateway/payment method. :) (assuming it is not a private/proprietary one time use payment method)

I thought when aff's asked about their poor ratio, the company line was "yea, something's not right here - let us look into it." That way you get a few more weeks of shaving in before the aff gets wise. Really good customer support can stretch out the head-scratching aff for a few months.

I personally plan on using nats when I launch my program because from what i've seen it's just the best program out there right now...

I sell NATS with shave feature. Hit me up..

Just kidding! :D

LMAO :1orglaugh

Retread for more info.......

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We do not "spy" on your sales and stats unless you use NATSlite or NATSplus. Any full NATS customer can lock us out of their system 100% without any problems.

Also, the $12500 full price is for the software itself, as is. Nothing custom included.

BUT, like basically all our clients will be happy to tell you, 99% of the time, if you are looking for a feature we do not offer, we add it free of charge.

About the multiple shaving things mentioned here: on top of having checks and balances in place that make it hard to shave, like others have said already, IF we find proof that a customer of ours shaves, and they can not explain the weirdness in their system, we WILL terminate their license and we WILL sue them over it.

Also, NATS is much more than just a "cascading billing solution without a shaving feature". We are the currently most advanced and feature rich affiliate software on the market. We add and extend features weekly. Some small, some big. We help our clients AND their resellers increase their ROI. And thats the bottom line of it.

So, you can't really state that no programs would ever shave.

Is there a way for the affiliate to know what programs own the full-source, and have you locked out? Just curious.. if you want to make sure no programs do start shaving once they buy the full or own the full then it'd be best to offer someway to check for shaving through third-party.. otherwise your "no shave possible" statements could bite you in the ass. :)

Matt

1) we have never stated shaving is impossible.
2) we do not sell full-source. Noone except us has the source to our program.
3) locked out means that we do not have admin access. Tests we can do with a normal affiliate account would help us find shaving still, as it would help YOU find shaving also, no difference there
4) also, the checks and balances we have built are automated, not needed for us to login to anything.
5) its correct, we can not guarantee that noone that ever buys NATS will not try to mess with their numbers. But we make very sure that we catch people, and it is really not worthwhile for anyone that buys NATS to shave. Disabling the license and us sueing them is not something anyone will want to risk.

NATS is a good system. John and the boys have done an excellant job filling a major void in the market.

As they have stated, nothing is shave proof. Nothing.

That is a well manicured and damn sexy hand.

Which ways ?

It would kind of defeat the purpose if we told you, now wouldn't it? :)

PBucksJohn, did you get my email about the Detailed Stats Report problem?