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xxxice 04-19-2005 07:15 AM

Why do VOD's pay less than Regular Sites?
 
Is there a reason that the video on demand sites pay less % then other sites. I am pushing traffic to vod's but seem to do better pushing paysites ...

xxxice 04-19-2005 08:08 AM

I thought for sure someone could answer this one :(

Jakke PNG 04-19-2005 08:17 AM

Because all the VOD's pay so little, they convert and regardles of the percentage people would like to promote them. It'd be the same with paysites..if EVERYONE paid 20% revshare or $10 per signup, you'd promote them because you would have to in the absense of other alternatives. :)

However I'm just dreaming and don't know if that's a fact.

xxxice 04-19-2005 08:19 AM

Thanks for the information :thumbsup

jovigirl 04-19-2005 08:19 AM

Because most of the VOD systems don't have a license for all the content they broadcast, but are just brokering content for the producers and they already pay like 40 / 50 % to the owner of the videos + 20 / 25 % to the affiliates + processing fees.

There is not too much margin left to raise affiliate payouts IMO.

xxxice 04-19-2005 08:21 AM

Hmm interesting. I am trying to decide if I should keep links up. I guess I have to give it a bit more time ...

mindoza 04-19-2005 08:23 AM

Why? Hmm..First the structure is such that we also have to pay out the studio. We also pay all bandwith and processing charges.
We are not a paysite so people are free to buy as much or as little as they want so Retention is infinately better than pay sites so once you get a member signed up the revenue is going to be there for years to come!!!

There is big overhead in maintaining a ongoing VOD site so giving out large percentages just does not work for us. But once you get started and realize the profit potential 25% does not seem so bad!!!!

J$tyle$ 04-19-2005 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jovigirl
Because most of the VOD systems don't have a license for all the content they broadcast, but are just brokering content for the producers and they already pay like 40 / 50 % to the owner of the videos + 20 / 25 % to the affiliates + processing fees.

There is not too much margin left to raise affiliate payouts IMO.

Pretty accurate statement ... almost accurate numbers.

They license fro Producers for around 30% on average based on a revshare.

Webmasters 20 - 30%

Encoding, bandwidth, processing, staff costs, etc combined around 20 -25%

They earn a slimmer margin than paysites but hopefully make it up based on volume

:2 cents:

mindoza 04-19-2005 08:29 AM

Our standard content agreement with Studios is 25%...A few over that a few under that.

J$tyle$ 04-19-2005 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindoza
Why? Hmm..First the structure is such that we also have to pay out the studio. We also pay all bandwith and processing charges.
We are not a paysite so people are free to buy as much or as little as they want so Retention is infinately better than pay sites so once you get a member signed up the revenue is going to be there for years to come!!!

There is big overhead in maintaining a ongoing VOD site so giving out large percentages just does not work for us. But once you get started and realize the profit potential 25% does not seem so bad!!!!

Still haven't forgot about you, Mindy - waiting on some documents from the person that has "the marketing riights"

:winkwink:

mindoza 04-19-2005 08:32 AM

Im ready when you are bubbalah!!!

xxxice 04-19-2005 08:52 AM

Ok thanks everyone for making sense of this to me. I am going to try for another month or so if not some good results by then I will move them down on my sites :winkwink:

mindoza 04-19-2005 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanderweb
Ok thanks everyone for making sense of this to me. I am going to try for another month or so if not some good results by then I will move them down on my sites :winkwink:

Have you contacted them to discuss ways you could improve your conversion? Just a thought.

Snake Doctor 04-19-2005 09:56 AM

Its similar to promoting live cam sites where the model gets a hefty cut of the per minute charges. That's why cam sites can't pay 60% recurring like paysites do.

Only in this case the cam model is the video company.
There's lots of content on VOD sites that you can't get elsewhere on the web because it isn't licensed out to webmasters.

xxxice 04-19-2005 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
Its similar to promoting live cam sites where the model gets a hefty cut of the per minute charges. That's why cam sites can't pay 60% recurring like paysites do.

Only in this case the cam model is the video company.
There's lots of content on VOD sites that you can't get elsewhere on the web because it isn't licensed out to webmasters.

Great post thank u !

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xxxice 04-19-2005 12:29 PM

That is what I am using. I am doing pretty good. But did not know what to expect vs paysites.

Bugbee 04-19-2005 01:01 PM

One thing you also need to remember is that a good VOD program pays you for the life of that customer not just a one time fee. Over time VOD pays great I have accounts I stopped sending traffic to last year and still get weekly checks form those VOD programs without fail.

xxxice 04-19-2005 02:59 PM

I though most were reccuring ?

PR_Dave 04-19-2005 03:52 PM

Forget about VOD.

We pay $35 per Trial!

http://www.downloadpass.com/index.html

Gottis 04-19-2005 04:25 PM

PR_Dave - that site rocks.

Reminds me of videosz.

decrypted 04-20-2005 03:23 PM

take off the vod links and push the traffic to us instead :)

Relish XXX 04-20-2005 03:26 PM

When we launch an affiliate program we will pay 60%.

seeric 04-20-2005 03:31 PM

producers of the content must be paid. the profit margin for vod sites is smaller.

seeric 04-20-2005 03:37 PM

sorry for the double post.

you should check out www.videopasscash.com they pay more than any other VOD program out there.

30% lifetime to the affiliate on pay-per-view and pay-per-minute
and
50% lifetime on all access VOD monthly memberships


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