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slapass 05-10-2005 07:32 AM

People do not realize how big mailers are
 
Brand0n is surprised Nickatlynx is as big as he is but didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there. TGP's are cool and the hun is a fantastic consistent set up. But the number of TGP's that can turn out 100 signups a day for a single program is not that big.

We see less threads of "I can do 100 signups/day for your program and i want to be paid up front" but the people are still out there doing it.

chupachups 05-10-2005 07:33 AM

Amen to that!

polish_aristocrat 05-10-2005 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there.

no, he never made that much I think

brand0n 05-10-2005 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
Brand0n is surprised Nickatlynx is as big as he is but didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there. TGP's are cool and the hun is a fantastic consistent set up. But the number of TGP's that can turn out 100 signups a day for a single program is not that big.

We see less threads of "I can do 100 signups/day for your program and i want to be paid up front" but the people are still out there doing it.

http://www.hereinreality.com/funnyst.../brownnose.jpg

Naughty 05-10-2005 07:37 AM

I'm still waiting for somebody to give me a crash course in mailing. None of the big players are willing though, and I salute them for it. Fuckers.

nico-t 05-10-2005 07:42 AM

2nd time i ask and now i want answers:
How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?

pradaboy 05-10-2005 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
2nd time i ask and now i want answers:
How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?

mailing as in spamming :2 cents:

nico-t 05-10-2005 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pradaboy
mailing as in spamming :2 cents:

so mailing is just ordinary spamming to random email adresses? Or is there an idea behind it?

Relish XXX 05-10-2005 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
2nd time i ask and now i want answers:
How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?


I send out email newslertters to expired members and current members. We also gather in email addresses from pages like www.vickiepowell.com and a varietey of other sources.

slapass 05-10-2005 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

umm or reality. Maybe you want to look around. Your boss does that level in sales. People can do it.

sherie 05-10-2005 08:01 AM

Of course there is an idea behind it. God bless the one's that know what they are doing!

European Lee 05-10-2005 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
Brand0n is surprised Nickatlynx is as big as he is but didn't bdjuf (sp?) get into mailing and kick out $10k a day or some such shit for a while there. TGP's are cool and the hun is a fantastic consistent set up. But the number of TGP's that can turn out 100 signups a day for a single program is not that big.

We see less threads of "I can do 100 signups/day for your program and i want to be paid up front" but the people are still out there doing it.

Whilst you are in essence correct, the larger problem is that so many webmasters beleive the ONLY sources of traffic are tgps, link lists and SE's by the time they realize how wrong they were, its already to late for them.

Regards,

Lee

xclusive 05-10-2005 08:02 AM

I wonder how much has been made from spamming fake rolex?

brand0n 05-10-2005 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
umm or reality. Maybe you want to look around. Your boss does that level in sales. People can do it.

and who is my boss?
lol this should be good.

polish_aristocrat 05-10-2005 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive
I wonder how much has been made from spamming fake rolex?

ask Franck how much he made and multiple it by 5

Manowar 05-10-2005 08:06 AM

mailing is ultra-profitable, it always has been

slapass 05-10-2005 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
and who is my boss?
lol this should be good.

Dude i have not been dogging you but sharing my info. i thought you worked for "warningpages.com" which is owned by Rick from CJ. If you are a sig whore that is fine. I was wrong.

brand0n 05-10-2005 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar
mailing is ultra-profitable, it always has been

so is bank robberys, insurance fraud, money laundering, embezzlement.....
see the mutal connection?

slapass 05-10-2005 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
so is bank robberys, insurance fraud, money laundering, embezzlement.....
see the mutal connection?

You realize the other ones are illegal right? Where as mailing is not. Small distinctions are important.

brand0n 05-10-2005 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
Dude i have not been dogging you but sharing my info. i thought you worked for "warningpages.com" which is owned by Rick from CJ. If you are a sig whore that is fine. I was wrong.

for? no. with? yes.

havent had a boss since my stent over at arbys.

Kimmykim 05-10-2005 08:10 AM

Mailing is definitely not what it used to be, with CAN SPAM and the FTC out poking around, on top of Hotmail and Earthlink and the rest of the ISPs suing people left and right.

But back in the day, mailing was the single biggest way to generate joins, from a conversion and a dollars standpoint.

Doing 10k a day in joins isn't that much really, especially not at 35 bucks a join...

brand0n 05-10-2005 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass
You realize the other ones are illegal right? Where as mailing is not. Small distinctions are important.

LOL
so all those lawsuits m$ are serving up, and the people aol is throwing in jail are all false cases with no leg to stand on.

im sure that mailing is 100% legal. just ask any of those guys doing time for it.

the guy in NC who JUST got handed 9 years, go ask him about the legalitys of mailing. im sure he would love to talk to you about them. only thing is, visiting hours are only 10-2 on saterday and sunday.

slapass 05-10-2005 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
LOL
so all those lawsuits m$ are serving up, and the people aol is throwing in jail are all false cases with no leg to stand on.

im sure that mailing is 100% legal. just ask any of those guys doing time for it.

the guy in NC who JUST got handed 9 years, go ask him about the legalitys of mailing. im sure he would love to talk to you about them. only thing is, visiting hours are only 10-2 on saterday and sunday.

If you live in the US it is illegal. And it has risks outside the US. But where Nick lives it is legal last time I looked.

Odie 05-10-2005 08:23 AM

mail traffic has def been the most profitable for sure! It's just too bad that many have "disappeared." Many have gone on the dl and are not making the same $$ that they were back in the day.

latinasojourn 05-10-2005 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar
mailing is ultra-profitable, it always has been


true, and also tricky if you are USA based.

you've got to follow the law specifically or risk going to jail.

IMO UCE for porn ain't cool from an integrity aspect, too many minors have email addresses nowadays, but for mainstream items it can work.

you need offshore servers and the ability to change IP's rapidly internally without using proxies.

it can be done, but is not a project for newbies without cash.

Jensen 05-10-2005 08:25 AM

suddenly 50 dudes are thinking about doing this after they realized they could do $10k a day instead of submitting galleries doing $35 a day?

Dirty F 05-10-2005 08:29 AM

Then again, 95% of the mailers do a few 100 bucks a day.

Its no different than any other traffic source. Most submitters do a few sales and 5% makes tons.

Same with paysites, freesites, you name it. Only advantage mailing has its easy as fuck and 10 mins work a day for those few 100 bucks.

NoCarrier 05-10-2005 08:30 AM

Canada is a safe place for spamming (So far).

Dirty F 05-10-2005 08:31 AM

Thread reminds me to start a few mailings. Everybody check your inbox please for todays offer. I think its gonna be dating. I bet most of you could use a little help when it comes to that.

Dirty F 05-10-2005 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCarrier
Canada is a safe place for spamming (So far).

So is Holland.

brand0n 05-10-2005 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Thread reminds me to start a few mailings. Everybody check your inbox please for todays offer. I think its gonna be dating. I bet most of you could use a little help when it comes to that.

yea, im pretty stocked up on rolex action, might wanna switch it up

eldominik 05-10-2005 09:40 AM

Bdjuf is making peanuts.

Dirty F 05-10-2005 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
yea, im pretty stocked up on rolex action, might wanna switch it up


Yeah, they are redesigning the rolex sites. Should be ready next week :thumbsup

TheEnforcer 05-10-2005 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee
Whilst you are in essence correct, the larger problem is that so many webmasters beleive the ONLY sources of traffic are tgps, link lists and SE's by the time they realize how wrong they were, its already to late for them.

Regards,

Lee


There it is!! :thumbsup

TheEnforcer 05-10-2005 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
so is bank robberys, insurance fraud, money laundering, embezzlement.....
see the mutal connection?


Hahahaha.. oh man that post is too funny. :1orglaugh


You know what the difference between snail mail spam and e-mail spam is? The government gets a cut of snail mail spam.

nico-t 05-10-2005 09:47 AM

ok im gonna look for mailing resource sites.
and who said bdjuf makes $10k a day, i only saw a post of him where he made $300 in 3 days.... so we are a lil exagurating arent we?

eldominik 05-10-2005 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
ok im gonna look for mailing resource sites.
and who said bdjuf makes $10k a day, i only saw a post of him where he made $300 in 3 days.... so we are a lil exagurating arent we?

MAYBE he made that money in his whole life.

Relish XXX 05-10-2005 09:53 AM

If I send out my newsletter I do more sign up than when I had gallery spots at Marks Bookmarks, Call Kelly and The Hun. The newsletter costs fuck all to mail out. GTS charge. I would still buy in spots with GTS though.

Odie 05-10-2005 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Thread reminds me to start a few mailings. Everybody check your inbox please for todays offer. I think its gonna be dating. I bet most of you could use a little help when it comes to that.


send away...which dating site will you be using?? :winkwink: I haven't had any luck in that market.. :1orglaugh

Dirty F 05-10-2005 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eldominik
MAYBE he made that money in his whole life.


You are clueless...now stfu.

TDF 05-10-2005 09:57 AM

mailing is boring but good money..my mind needs a mental workout..just another nuance of being a genius

nico-t 05-10-2005 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX
The newsletter costs fuck all to mail out. GTS charge. I would still buy in spots with GTS though.

i didnt understand the sentences i quoted above, would you explain what you meant to someone interested in this mailer thing like me?

Tony Montana 05-10-2005 10:05 AM

Very true.

fireorange 05-10-2005 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
i didnt understand the sentences i quoted above, would you explain what you meant to someone interested in this mailer thing like me?

GTS = Gallery Traffic Service = paid spots on TGPs

pradaboy 05-10-2005 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
i didnt understand the sentences i quoted above, would you explain what you meant to someone interested in this mailer thing like me?

he means he has a list of subscriptions (optins) or expired members that he mails.

SykkBoy 05-10-2005 01:07 PM

even mailers aren't what they used to be
there used to be a lot of mailers that could drop 400-500 joins per day on you, now those same people are barely able to send 100 and others even less...
there is also a disctintion between UCE and opt-in mailers (whether they be single or double opt-in)

tranza 05-10-2005 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
So is Holland.

So is Brazil.

But I don't think I'll ever try spamming.

JSA Matt 05-10-2005 01:08 PM

havn't heard much from DeanCapture lately............ :X

fris 05-10-2005 01:20 PM

spamforum.biz

cambaby 05-10-2005 01:22 PM

Yes all you non-USA people should quit TGPs and the like and start mailing. Go for it you can do it. :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup


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