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Project-Shadow 05-10-2005 10:41 AM

Domain transfer legality and morality
 
Alrighty, so I was looking over a few prime domain names checking the status [locked/active] and some really good domains are left active.

Putting morals aside, how does the law look apon it if you were to send in a transfer for 'xdomain.com' and the other person didn't decline the transfer and you become the new owner. I assumed it would be theft of some sort, but thinking about it I'm not so sure anymore.

Not that i'm thinking about it.. *cough* but i'm genuinly [sp] curious.

Smut 05-10-2005 10:44 AM

bump 8char

mkx 05-10-2005 10:47 AM

I know someone who tried this through enom just for the hell of it and the transfer got declined because the other party did not respond.

Mr Dickovitch 05-10-2005 10:48 AM

It's all fine until you go to prison and get assraped.

:1orglaugh

Smut 05-10-2005 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raulph
I know someone who tried this through enom just for the hell of it and the transfer got declined because the other party did not respond.

But was the status of that domain "ACTIVE"?

Smut 05-10-2005 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Dickovitch
It's all fine until you go to prison and get assraped.

:1orglaugh

Prison? What makes you think transferring a domain name is illegal? The owner has every right to decline the transfer.

Mr Dickovitch 05-10-2005 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smut
Prison? What makes you think transferring a domain name is illegal? The owner has every right to decline the transfer.

That's like saying that it's OK to steal a car because the owner wasn't there to decline your borrowing it. You're a winner.

:thumbsup

wdsguy 05-10-2005 10:52 AM

hey i just initiated a transfer on some of your hentai domains

DomBuyer 05-10-2005 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Project-Shadow
Alrighty, so I was looking over a few prime domain names checking the status [locked/active] and some really good domains are left active.

Putting morals aside, how does the law look apon it if you were to send in a transfer for 'xdomain.com' and the other person didn't decline the transfer and you become the new owner. I assumed it would be theft of some sort, but thinking about it I'm not so sure anymore.

Not that i'm thinking about it.. *cough* but i'm genuinly [sp] curious.

It's theft.

Any more questions? :1orglaugh

mkx 05-10-2005 10:54 AM

Yes it was. Maybe it is just enom.

Project-Shadow 05-10-2005 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdsguy
hey i just initiated a transfer on some of your hentai domains

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I remembered to lock mine ^_^

Cheers DomBuyer.

mkx 05-10-2005 10:55 AM

Its not morale, and theft, but you could get off with a good lawyer. Especially when the owner of the domain no longer has access to the listed email and the domain is inactive.

mkx 05-10-2005 10:55 AM

What is a registrar that doesnt do 2 way transfer confirmations?

sextoyking 05-10-2005 10:57 AM

It's stealing - no if's ands or butts :)

I remember a few yrs ago I went to transfer gasoline.org to one of my other accounts and accidently typed in gasoline.com and it got approved and transfered to me. I was scared. I called the company who owned it and transfered it back.

They were so happy and pissed that one of there people approved the transfer. Sent me 3 bottles of good wine :)

Fuckin Bill 05-10-2005 10:58 AM

You can't tranfer a domain to a new owner without confirmation from the current owner. At least not by simply sending in a transfer request.

mkx 05-10-2005 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking
It's stealing - no if's ands or butts :)

I remember a few yrs ago I went to transfer gasoline.org to one of my other accounts and accidently typed in gasoline.com and it got approved and transfered to me. I was scared. I called the company who owned it and transfered it back.

They were so happy and pissed that one of there people approved the transfer. Sent me 3 bottles of good wine :)

Honest with a million dollar asset. This world needs more people like you

mkx 05-10-2005 10:59 AM

But the new rules tend to state that if the current owner doesnt reply to the request than the domain gets transfered. I am saying that this isnt true with enom and asking if anyone else has experience with this

SomeCreep 05-10-2005 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Project-Shadow
Alrighty, so I was looking over a few prime domain names checking the status [locked/active] and some really good domains are left active.

Putting morals aside, how does the law look apon it if you were to send in a transfer for 'xdomain.com' and the other person didn't decline the transfer and you become the new owner. I assumed it would be theft of some sort, but thinking about it I'm not so sure anymore.

Not that i'm thinking about it.. *cough* but i'm genuinly [sp] curious.

Lol, you're not sure if that is theft or not? It is. The owner can take you to court, sue, and win.

sextoyking 05-10-2005 11:01 AM

Well it wasn't my domain, so I had no right you know. Also, they had a join venture with one of the big oil companies, exxon, or chevron, etc. They would of stomped the crap out of anyone taking away there property

Project-Shadow 05-10-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep
Lol, you're not sure if that is theft or not? It is. The owner can take you to court, sue, and win.

Well I was assuming it was, but considering this is the internet, and with the 'new' Icann rules, I was also assuming that certain laws were changed or modified to accompany that change. Guess not eh.

mkx 05-10-2005 11:04 AM

It was an honest mistake, but your an honest person. A dishonest person would have parked the domain and made money off traffic for a year while the domain name gets publicity on the internet, in the end, might just settle out of court with giving the domain back

mkx 05-10-2005 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking
Well it wasn't my domain, so I had no right you know. Also, they had a join venture with one of the big oil companies, exxon, or chevron, etc. They would of stomped the crap out of anyone taking away there property

You should have reported your story to dnjournal or a few online news sites. Get your name out there ;)

sextoyking 05-10-2005 11:08 AM

ah, I didn't think of the PR side of it :)

mkx 05-10-2005 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking
ah, I didn't think of the PR side of it :)

And that stuff is easy to believe to, I just made the same mistake a week ago confusing a .com with a .org, good thing i noticed quick.

cafeaulait 05-10-2005 11:32 AM

I have a similar situtation where I aquired a domain that is used as the email contact for a monster domain, this is real big.

Its being redirected by the current owners (a major european company) to another on topic domain at the moment. Not really being used properly.

It expires this year and I assume I'm going to get the renewal request as I've got a catcall on the admin email domain.

Been racking my brains to think if there was a way I could legally take control of it, but if I wait until it expires it will just get snapped by a backorder house.

Could buy a house with this one but I'd never be able to sleep if it wasn't all above board.

Raven 05-10-2005 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raulph
Honest with a million dollar asset. This world needs more people like you

He is definitely in a class of his own and pure class....:)

SDSimon 05-10-2005 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven
He is definitely in a class of his own and pure class....:)

Hi Raven :)

I could not agree more! :thumbsup

>>>>Winners "WIN" because they "NEVER GIVE UP!"<<<<

DateDoc 05-10-2005 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking
Well it wasn't my domain, so I had no right you know. Also, they had a join venture with one of the big oil companies, exxon, or chevron, etc. They would of stomped the crap out of anyone taking away there property

More than likely you would have been found 6 feet under but kudos to you for being honest. More people should be. These days you have to triple check everything before making a deal. :Oh crap


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