Nikon D70 vs Nikon D70s... Please No "get a canon" posts. ;)
 

Looking to pick up another dig SLR, and really liked the Nikon D70 (played with the D100 and didn?t like it as much). Yes, I know the droves of Canon worshipers will come out of the woodwork, spouting about the 20D, but after trying all the Canon DSLRs, I just do not care for them. So, my question is, has anyone seen/played with the upgraded D70s, and how is it different from the D70? I?m guessing it is a partial-upgrade, kind of like the Canon Rebel to the Rebel XT.

Anyone? :upsidedow

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond70/page20.asp

from the top keep going next page and it tests out both the 70 and the 100...

imo.. for web.. you wouldn't notice the difference between either the 70, the 100, or the rebel :thumbsup

Thanks for the link Al, but I'm trying to find info on the upgraded D70S. :upsidedow

Just found this: http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2005/0420_01.htm

Major Features of the Nikon D70s
Speed and precision
Continuous shooting at 3 frames per second for a continuous burst of up to 144 pictures* thanks to improved buffer memory handling, faster image processing, increased memory card access speed and greater system bus bandwidth.
(When using JPEG NORMAL - Large setting, and a SanDisk SDCFH (Ultra II), SDCFX (Extreme/Extreme III), or Lexar Media 80X WA CompactFlash? card).
Immediate 0.2-second power-up has the D70s ready to take pictures before your finger can reach the shutter button.
Short shutter time lag is hardly noticeable.
Improved 5-area AF system with predictive focus tracking and Lock-on? delivers greater precision with fast, more consistent subject acquisition and improved focus tracking to ensure quick response and sharp focus, while an AF-assist illuminator helps ensure top performance in dark situations.
Fast shutter speed with a range from 30 to 1/8,000 sec. for full creative control.
Fast flash sync shutter speeds up to 1/500 sec. available for great fill-effects under brighter light and difficult back-lighted conditions.
Fast recording that supports CompactFlash? cards and MicroDrive? media of up to 4GB capacity.
Vivid color and sharp details
6.1 effective megapixel Nikon DX Format CCD imaging sensor produces 3,008 x 2,000-pixel images with high resolution and superbly sharp details.
High-performance digital image processor uses advanced algorithms to handle all steps of digital image processing to produce images that are ready to print straight from the camera. Image quality is optimized, including auto white balance, auto tone and color control, while real-time processes that diminish digital noise produce beautiful long exposure shots.
3D Color Matrix Metering assures consistently accurate exposure. User control over exposure includes selections for variable center-weighted metering and a choice of five spot meters, as well as exposure compensation, auto exposure bracketing, and flash exposure compensation.
Auto TTL white balance for natural coloration, plus a choice of six different manual white balance settings, (Incandescent, Fluorescent, Direct Sunlight, Flash, Cloudy, and Shade), or user-defined preset white balance. White balance bracketing is also available.
Accurate control and predictable results
Seven Digital Vari-Program selections easily accessible from the mode dial deliver automatic operation that optimizes white balance, sharpening, tone (contrast), color, saturation and hue for crisp and vivid results that match the intended shot. Selections include Auto, Portrait, Landscape, Close-up, Sports, Night Landscape, and Night Portrait.
Image enhancement options optimize sharpening, tone (contrast), color, saturation and hue while using Auto Multi Program [P], Shutter-Priority Auto [S], Aperture-Priority Auto [A], or [Manual M] exposure modes to best match the scene or intended use for the picture. The easy to set choices include Normal, Vivid, Sharper, Softer, Direct print, Portrait, Landscape or Custom optimization.
Flexible sensitivity control from ISO 200 to 1600 to match most any lighting condition; can be set manually or be controlled automatically by the D70s.
Optimized exposure with a choice of three TTL exposure modes, including Nikon's acclaimed 3D Color Matrix Metering with 1,005-pixel RGB Sensor, variable Center-Weighted Meter and choice of Spot Meters.
Auto exposure bracketing helps achieve the exact results desired.
Flash exposure compensation.
Nikon's Color Reproduction System offers a choice of three color modes to ensure the best match for the shot when operating the camera manually.
Mode Ia: Renders natural-looking skin tones out of the camera. (sRGB)
Mode II: Realizes a wider color range suited for processing or retouching. (Adobe RGB)
Mode IIIa: Renders vivid landscape and flora colors out of the camera. (sRGB)
Simultaneous recording of NEF (RAW) and JPEG data for the same shot helps optimize and accelerate workflow.
Intuitive handling and familiar operation
Light and compact:
Dimensions (W x H x D): 140 x 111 x 78 mm/5.5 x 4.4 x 3.1 in).
Weight; Approx. 600g (1 lb 5 oz) without battery.
Intuitive and familiar operation with ergonomically designed and sensibly located buttons and controls, including the handy multi selector and mode dial.
Main and Sub command dials for easy control over settings and smooth single-handed operation.
Depth of Field preview button aids composition accuracy.
New large 2.0-inch LCD monitor located directly below the viewfinder displays the large fonts of the new easy-to-view easy-to-understand menu design, and the dialogs of the intuitive new help system. A protective clear LCD cover is also included.
Versatile LCD playback options include Single frame, Thumbnail (4 or 9 segments), Zoom playback (up to 4.7x, image size at large setting), Slide show, Histogram indication, and Highlight point displays, with automatic image rotation for vertical shots.
LCD control panel on camera top for easy confirmation of settings and camera status.
Delivering the power to shoot up to 2,500 images? on a single charge, the new rechargeable lithium-ion battery EN-EL3a combines light weight with higher energy capacity.
For added flexibility, the D70s can accommodate an optional battery holder (MS-D70) that allows it to be powered by three CR2 batteries.
25 Custom Settings allow you to personalize the operation of your D70s to match your shooting style or the demands of different shooting conditions.
Wireless remote control operation made available with optional ML-L3 remote control. A choice of cable (MC-DC1) or wireless (ML-L3) remote control options provides necessary camera stability when using long exposures, or for macro photography.
Advanced and easy image handling
The addition of in-camera page setup support makes it easier to print directly from the D70s to any PictBridge compatible printer via the supplied USB cable.
Text input of to 36 alphanumeric characters can be entered in each image's EXIF header for identification.
Video connector and supplied video cable makes it easy to connect the D70s directly to a television for playing slideshows or viewing individual images
Creative and versatile system components
High-Quality Nikkor lenses: The unrivalled performance of AF, AF-S and DX Nikkor lenses expand creative possibilities to the maximum. Ranging from a 180° 10.5 mm f2.8 Fisheye through 600 mm Telephoto, this exclusive lineup of Zoom-Nikkor and fixed focal length lenses maximize the high performance of the D70s.
Built-in auto pop-up flash features exclusive i-TTL flash control, fast 1/500 sec. flash sync shutter speed, and supports Nikon's Creative Lighting System for wireless control of remote SB-600 and SB-800 Speedlights.
ISO flash shoe makes it easy to attach an SB-600 or SB-800 Speedlight directly to the camera.
Integrated Nikon Software Solutions:

The D70s is not a huge difference from the D70. There is a patch/upgrade/flash for the D70 coming out from Nikon shortly that will add all the D70s features to the D70. The only hardware differences are the larger screen and longer battery life, that I can tell.

Yep, thats exaclty what I heard...only major difference is the screen size. Just picked up the D70 myself on Friday and I'm already in love with it! Was recommended by a few of you and a great recommendation it was :thumbsup

firmware here

http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/cgi...dCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ

Very Good Elli ! You're right on top of this stuff :thumbsup

Shes correct!

I just bought a D70 as a backup to my Fuji S2 pro. I ended up putting away my fuji for now. Im still not real sure i like the 5 point focus area, but other then that, I love it. its light and very fast.


Here is some examples I shot over last weekend on my D70.

http://www.shootingmanic.com/samples-fresh/fresh38.JPG

http://www.shootingmanic.com/samples-fresh/fresh36.JPG

http://www.shootingmanic.com/samples-fresh/fresh.JPG

http://www.shootingmanic.com/samples-fresh/fresh1.JPG

http://www.shootingmanic.com/samples-fresh/fresh28.JPG

I do have a D70, and I went through the same panic: "What? A new D70? But I just got mine six months ago! Ahhh!"

IMO it's a great camera, and the Thom Hogan e-book for it is awesome.

me too I bought it as a back up, now I use it more than the D100......I'm not sure I would want the new one , because its too close to what I have. I'm waiting for the new version of the D100. It was supposed to come out this spring they brought out the 70s instead :disgust

Bought a D100 today, wasn't all that pleased with the D70. I know the patch is coming out that fixes most of my bitches, but I'm really disappointed in it as a whole and the fact that patch took so long.

I love my D70

http://www.shootingmanic.com/samples-fresh/fresh1.JPG

Damn, that girl is smokin hot! Or as Liv would say....She's Yummy :thumbsup

You won't even be able to get a D70.. THey are replacing them with the D70S. It's fixing abunch of the AF problems as well as some firmware issues. If you have a d70, you can upgrade your firmware.

Thanks Elli, your right, I found the new patch update page shortly after I found the new D70s specs... looks like 95% of the improvements they put back into the D70 thru the update (nice customer support :thumbsup). Only hardware changes I found were the larger LCD, new battery, and a remote control port.

cool - I found a diff link: http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2005/0420_06.htm

I loved shooting with your D70 in Cancun... that's what finally sold me on it. However, I also have the "just bought" curse, where the new model comes out a moth after you bought the old one, whether you wait to upgrade or not. :winkwink:

I've shot a couple D100s and I don't think they capture or focus as well as the D70.

Great shots!! :thumbsup

Thanks for all of the info/feeback. :thumbsup

Get a fuji! :)

I know about the curse....... I really dont understand why they came out with a new model so soon ..........The competition must be really intense. All the talk was about a new 100 and then they pulled this shit. Just upgrade your 70 and be done with it :2 cents:

eos rules

cool stuff guys, i got the D70 since some months, and this thread made me upgrade the firmware hehe, its a great camera and i simply love shooting with it =)

get a cannon...

just remember once you buy into a lens system your in

very informative thread ! thanks for this .. I've owned many cameras in my time, and have changedd manifactures from Canon to Nikon twice! I like Nikon for it's lens, Fuji for it D-SLRs , marry the two and you got a winning combo, I've been thinking about buying a D70s for my assistants and getting a S3 (upgrade from the S2) for myself ...

Shooting Maniac, One suggestion, Change your color setting to Hard or add a little contras( use a Gold Refector) your Indoor images have good color rez, however your outdoor ones are lacking. Just a suggestion ;)


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I dont like the Hard color setting and adding to much contrast just does not work for what I shoot. It ends up looking like "porn" hehe I also think a gold reflector is way to harsh so I use sunlight reflector instead. My personal taste. The indoor pics had a sunlight reflector using natural light and a photo 500 wat flood for the bounce. The outdoor was taken with the girl 20 plus feet away with a 80-200 2.8 Nikon Lens. Color isnt perfect on her body, but then again, it was just me and the model, with no fill or reflectors at all. I was happy with it as was my client. ;)

So, now that's settled... Whats your fav nikon lense for the D70/D70s? Speedlight?

I just got the D70 and love it... I brought it to a wedding last week and took over 1000 pics with no problems... Great camera for the $$$...

Just my 2 cents!

Born

Sigma 28-70 AF
&
Sigma 70-200 AF

Are my two favorites...

B-

Get a CANNON!!

;)

j/k

The speedlight has to be the SB 800 takes 5 batteries fast and good, personally I use a 24-85 lens

:321GFY








:winkwink:

Really? no Nikkor Digital lenses? I was looking at:

18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor - NEW!
or
17-55mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor

the f/2.8-4D or the f/3.5-4.5G?

Correct. Why anyone would spend the money on a Nikon body and use an after market lens is way beyond me. Nikon makes the best len's in the world, bar none. Using anything else is like putting perfume on a pig..... just plain dumb.

A must have for content Nikkor 50mm 1:1.8 D

You could use a Nikkor 28-80mm 1:3.3 - 5.6 However, I hate zooms for content. A fixed lens like the 50mm is the way to go.

However, thats really all you need for content. The 50mm is by far the most important Lens you could have.

The D70 rocks!

See examples below...

http://www.mackeydesigns.com/keewee-shower-01.jpg

http://www.mackeydesigns.com/keewee-shower-02.jpg

http://josh.soulcash.com/dian/dian-test-03.jpg

http://josh.soulcash.com/dian/dian-test-04.jpg

http://www.mackeydesigns.com/pub/alexia/003.jpg

http://www.mackeydesigns.com/pub/alexia/005.jpg


The current rumor i hear right now, is since there was a large demand for a vertical grip on the D70, that the D70S will have the correct connections inside, so, rumor being, Nikon will be producing a vertical grip for the D70S.

As far as lenses I use...

I use the 50mm 1.4D for most portrait shooting...

I also use my 18-35mm ED, but will be upgrading to the 17-35mm 2.8 ED soon...

I have a few other lenses, but nothing I use for models, everything else is for landscape or automotive...

http://www.mackeydesigns.com

funny, everyone recommending canon is thread can't even spell it right.. LOL

CANON bleh.

Killer pics! Great news on the grip too... :thumbsup

Yes, Love the pics... NICE !!!!! and I use the 24-85 f/3.5-4.5G

Good thread Stewie.

I had no idea about the firmware upgrade. Thanks. :thumbsup

I love my D70... looking to get a wide angle lens for it soon.

Thanks guys!

Yea I just updated my firmware about 15 minutes ago, the new menu is smooth, can't wait to test out the autofocus.

Great to hear... glad this helped out more than just me. :)

it helped me immensly, been jerking off to mackey's pics for the last hour :Graucho :Graucho

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Those are some incredible shots!

Let us know what you think!

Damn! Those girls are smoking hot men!