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Fucksakes 05-26-2005 01:23 PM

tax question
 
who pays more in taxes, someone who works for someone.. or someone who is self employed..

having an arguement with someone.

After Shock Media 05-26-2005 01:25 PM

To much of a blanket question with to many non listed variables.

Terenzo 05-26-2005 01:26 PM

i think it depends - not least on the country, but i think if you are self employed you can play dirty tricks legally

Fucksakes 05-26-2005 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terenzo
i think it depends - not least on the country, but i think if you are self employed you can play dirty tricks legally

I am very happy with what I paid in taxes this year. as self employed

Terenzo 05-26-2005 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes
I am very happy with what I paid in taxes this year. as self employed

the first time when i paid taxes so high that i could have bought a house in california i freaked out - but now i am proud to be able to support my community. i am deadly serious.

AcidMax 05-26-2005 01:32 PM

When you think about it someone self employed pays more taxes, however you can also write more off :)

If you are just comparing paycheck to paycheck then the self employed pay more.

The reason is because as en employee your employer pays a certain percentage of taxes. I want to say its like 13%, then you pay the rest.

When you are self employed you pay your share + the employer 13% so you pay 13% more than someone not self-employed.

Hope that makes sense, and this is based in the U.S., not sure how it is in other countries.

Andy

Terenzo 05-26-2005 01:33 PM

... swiss taxes are not the highest around.

Sosa 05-26-2005 01:34 PM

matters how much you make I think. Self employment tax sucks ass if you make good money. That is why I set up a corporation, I keep most of the money int he corp that isn't taxed as high. Then pay myself a monthly salary out of the corporation.

ModelPerfect 05-26-2005 01:37 PM

Depends. Without deductions, the self-employed does, because there's still the pain in the ass self-employment tax which is taxed before your standard deduction. But if you keep good records and use all your deductions, then a self-employed individual can pay considerably less.

AcidMax 05-26-2005 01:40 PM

Another thing to add....

For those with a corporation (i know it will work with S-Corps not sure about C-Corps), is take advantage of the dividends :)

Instead of paying 26+% in taxes by paying yourself a paycheck, give yourself a bonus every quarter or so with a dividend check. Dividends you only pay 15% in taxes as opposed to the higher payroll taxes.

Of course be careful if you only pay yourself $1000 a month and take a $20,000 dividend check every quarter they are going to investigate it.

Dividends are nice though to supplement your income and maybe put you into a lower tax bracket.

Just another advantage besides the others, just because you have a corporation.

Fucksakes 05-26-2005 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terenzo
the first time when i paid taxes so high that i could have bought a house in california i freaked out - but now i am proud to be able to support my community. i am deadly serious.

damn!

that explains your sig. ill sell my sig for 1/5 of that in a heartbeat.


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