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SuckOnThis 06-10-2005 11:06 AM

12-year-old with cancer taken from her parents for refusing radiation
 
Always in fucked up Texas


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=44683

A Texas couple is fighting to regain custody of their 12-year-old cancer-stricken daughter after the state seized the girl, claiming her parents have not done enough to treat her.

A judge has postponed until tomorrow a ruling on whether or not doctors can treat Katie Wernecke against her parents' wishes, KPRC-TV in Houston reported.

Katie's parents, Michele and Edward Wernecke of Agua Dulce, Texas, say their daughter's Hodgkin's disease is in remission and she doesn't need radiation treatment after undergoing a round of chemotherapy. Mr. Wernecke is worried that more treatment will have harmful long-term effects on his daughter and wants an opinion from doctors outside Driscoll Children's Hospital in Corpus Christi.

But the Texas Child Protective Services believe the recommendations of doctors at the hospital should overrule the parents. Robert Rosetti, program director over investigations at the CPS Nueces County office, claims the parents are being "medically neglectful."

Speaking this morning on NBC's "Today" show, Michele Wernecke said her daughter's illness is unique and should be treated as such.

"I think they should treat her for what her body calls for and not standard protocol. Nobody will look at that," she said. "Not every cancer is the same. Nobody understands that. Her body is not standard, and her cancer is not standard."

The Werneckes, members of the Church of God, have said they oppose blood transfusions unless they are from Katie's mother, but she is not a match, according to doctors.

Their attorney, Daniel Horne, however, said religion isn't at issue. He says his clients don't believe doctors haven't been upfront about Katie's care and have not answered all their questions about radiation's side effects.

"This issue is about parental rights, not about religious rights," Horne said. "They just want to be informed of her treatment. They want to be involved in this."

Last week, the state issued an Amber Alert that led to the seizure of Katie, who is undergoing tests at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. The couple's three sons were also taken and are in a foster home.

Michele Wernecke was arrested on charges of interfering with child custody and was released Monday after posting $50,000 bond.

According to KPRC-TV, juvenile court Judge Carl Lewis said in a hearing yesterday he would wait until Friday to make a decision on the radiation treatment after receiving more information from doctors.

BukkakeBrown 06-10-2005 11:07 AM

danmn fucked up shit all over the place

juve20 06-10-2005 11:12 AM

that's pretty shit.

tony

ADL Colin 06-10-2005 11:14 AM

I watched that interview. Apparently they have refused other medical treatment in the past for their child based on their religious convictions.

"Church of God". Religious whackos.

galleryseek 06-10-2005 11:14 AM

nevermind. ...

riddler 06-10-2005 11:15 AM

I dont blame the state taking the kid, Atleast this is a case where they are looking for the good of the kid, These parents arent fucking doctors they dont know what the kid needs and doesnt, I doctor doesnt recommend radiation lightly, That shit isnt fun to go through so its not like where they just recommend it because it makes money..

I hope those parents get some kind of criminal charge for being stupid.

Tala 06-10-2005 11:16 AM

Oh hell.

:disgust

Theo 06-10-2005 11:18 AM

poor kid, except her health problem she has to deal with this bs too

SuckOnThis 06-10-2005 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by riddler
I dont blame the state taking the kid, Atleast this is a case where they are looking for the good of the kid, These parents arent fucking doctors they dont know what the kid needs and doesnt, I doctor doesnt recommend radiation lightly, That shit isnt fun to go through so its not like where they just recommend it because it makes money..

I hope those parents get some kind of criminal charge for being stupid.

The stupidity of people such as yourself never ceases to amaze me. Lemme guess, you're from Texass.

FilthyRob 06-10-2005 11:23 AM

The kid should be treated

riddler 06-10-2005 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis
The stupidity of people such as yourself never ceases to amaze me. Lemme guess, you're from Texass.

Dude its not about texas or not, I dont believe in what our government does but the doctor wants her to have radation, It could mean saving her fucking life, My mother had breast cancer and if it wasnt for radiation she would still have cancer tissue growing.

The parents shouldnt say that she doesnt need it because they have "FAITH".. I mean they have the girl in a cancer specialist hospital, If you ever been to a cancer specialist hospital its amazing how much they care for the people they work with.

chase 06-10-2005 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by riddler
Dude its not about texas or not, I dont believe in what our government does but the doctor wants her to have radation, It could mean saving her fucking life, My mother had breast cancer and if it wasnt for radiation she would still have cancer tissue growing.

The parents shouldnt say that she doesnt need it because they have "FAITH".. I mean they have the girl in a cancer specialist hospital, If you ever been to a cancer specialist hospital its amazing how much they care for the people they work with.

They SAID it was not a faith issue. They said if a second opinion concurred, they would agree to treatment...so now parents don't have the right to get a second opinion?

ADL Colin 06-10-2005 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chase
They SAID it was not a faith issue. They said if a second opinion concurred, they would agree to treatment...so now parents don't have the right to get a second opinion?

Yeah, they said that in the interview and initially I was convinced. Then Matt Lauer called them out and said they have refused treatment for their child before based on religious convictions. Their attorney was with them and claimed it wasn't because of ther religious views. They didn't deny that they have refused other treatments in the past. I agree and think they are entitled to another doctor's opinion but if that doctor gives the same advice and they refused they are endangering their child's life.

They were also talking about "alternative treatments" so it may they don't want a traditional doctor's advice. It was unclear from the interview.

riddler 06-10-2005 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chase
They SAID it was not a faith issue. They said if a second opinion concurred, they would agree to treatment...so now parents don't have the right to get a second opinion?

Child services just doesnt snatch a kid for them saying no to a doctor about treatment, They investigate, There is more to the story than led to believe.

I remember when people used to call child services on a family i knew when i was a kid and it took them weeks to investigate the shit even though it was a serious matter.

Evil1 06-10-2005 11:44 AM

This was on abc last night, she's cancer free right now.. but some fuckup decided she should just keep having radiation for the fun of it, so the state yanked the all 4 kids.

directfiesta 06-10-2005 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BukkakeBrown
danmn fucked up shit all over the place

not true: TEXAS

chase 06-10-2005 11:48 AM

Maybe there is, of course I don't know...but I still think the gov't needs to butt the fuck out in alot of these kind of issues. Perhaps it's warranted in this case, but I see more and more encroachment of our rights, as parents, as humans, as Americans...and it makes me skeptical that a lot of the time these things are not right.

riddler 06-10-2005 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil1
This was on abc last night, she's cancer free right now.. but some fuckup decided she should just keep having radiation for the fun of it, so the state yanked the all 4 kids.

Usally the radiation is to make sure every cancer cell is dead so the girl can live, The parents sent her through chemo so why not radiation the worse part is over now.

riddler 06-10-2005 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chase
Maybe there is, of course I don't know...but I still think the gov't needs to butt the fuck out in alot of these kind of issues. Perhaps it's warranted in this case, but I see more and more encroachment of our rights, as parents, as humans, as Americans...and it makes me skeptical that a lot of the time these things are not right.

yeah true, we are slowly if not fastly moving to a dictated step in america.. :Oh crap

leedsfan 06-10-2005 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
I watched that interview. Apparently they have refused other medical treatment in the past for their child based on their religious convictions.

"Church of God". Religious whackos.

even so, is it right for the state to forcibly remove their daughter? Why does the state have that right? Isn't it a free country? Why can't the parents decide what is right. What moral obligations does the state undertake to ensure they are making the right choices for the daughter, and how do they decide on those moral deliberations?

SuckOnThis 06-10-2005 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riddler
Usally the radiation is to make sure every cancer cell is dead so the girl can live, The parents sent her through chemo so why not radiation the worse part is over now.


You really need to learn the truth about cancer treatment and just how damaging it is. Did you know cancer treatment in itself kills just as many people as it saves? Chemo damages the immune system and radiation permanently damages organs and cells. When it comes to cancer, western medicine has failed. It simply does not work -- it doesn't cure cancer, it doesn't offer any long-term benefit to patients, and it only results in massive costs associated with these short-lived treatments.

If the western medicine cancer industry actually worked, cancer would be cured by now. We were promised cures decades ago. But it doesn't work -- cancer has skyrocketed in the last 20 years, and cure rates have barely budged. Today, people who are diagnosed with cancer have no more survival rate than a person who avoids western medicine treatments altogether.


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