APN will not be purchasing .xxx equivalents of its domains. Who is with us?
 

Unless we're eventually required to by law, APN will not purchase the .xxx equivalent of any of our sites or our affiliate program.

The quickest way to fend off this attack is by using our wallets. We'll see how much a company with a burn rate of $3,000,000 a year is willing to continue operations when they only get a handful of registrations. Want to stop the forced migration to .xxx? Then don't buy one!

Am I being too idealistic? Perhaps. Some of you will go and register .xxx domains, thinking you've struck gold. Of course, you'll soon find those domains to be useless, as search engines, colleges, companies, and parents effectively block 99% of your traffic. Surfers will have as much incentive to type in "domain.xxx" as they will "domain.biz" or "domain.info" (which aren't blocked). ICM may get a few sales the first year, but once those domain owners figure it out, they won't renew.

There is absolutely no reason to register your .xxx domains! You won't get traffic from it. No one else will get traffic from it.

Of course, anyone trying to register/cybersquat our domains for commercial gain will be met with swift legal action. We have very specific and non-generic site names which we will succesfully prevent any one from using due to our trademark rights on those names. I will also hit you extra hard because you gave ICM money. No cease and desist letter, just a very very expensive lawsuit. Consider that computer you're typing on property of APN.

So who here will share in our stand? Or are you going to register your .xxx domains and contribute to what will become the downfall of this industry?

could i get a list of all your domains real fast?

I am not sure I want to get all of my .xxx domains anyway

Beautiful in concept but abstinance would hurt your business.

I am not a supporter of this iteration of .xxx just tellin ya how it will be.

I knew someone would post something like that.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ADG Webmaster

though we will be doing an official statement, OC3Networks will not, nexxxtisp will not, 2muchbs.com WILL not be supporting xxx domains by buying them.

.xxx is a waste of money unless you get your hands on the one words.

Philip.....Excellent!

SMASHBUCKS.COM ...SUPPORTS THIS 200% and will not buy a single fucking .XXX shit ball domain.


I could not agree with you more, both Joe and I have made a vow not to put one single penny that direction, hopefuly everyone else will do the same.

This deal is a very bad one, you will soon seen just how bad it is by the group that will uncover and expose all the "jack off's" that are behind this. There real motivation and the way they are selling this "sack o shit" .XXX


FUCK .XXX
:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

sure...i'll trade you that list for your list of assets

One might be inclined to think so, but with 100% filtering capability, a one word domain would be as valuable as a 100 word domain. Or even a one letter domain. Or do you think Google is going to stick you at the top because you have sex.xxx? Think again.

How so? Do you know what trademark law is?

i dont want any .xxx domains

No he doesn't, he just has to have his 2 cents in everything.

We will also not support any .xxx by purchasing them.

Wow, you're an attorney, you're a businessman, AND you're psychic!!!

I just don't understand why you aren't rich.

Good move Philip, the best way to vote is with your wallet in many cases!

Thanks Kimmy! So...I heard you registered sailing-hotties.xxx ?!?!? :1orglaugh

Yes, I think it will be worth millions!!!!

Sigh... now you've got me jonesing for the day to end and it's only 8 am... I'm racing tonight on a J24 and tomorrow night in the Star class.

I am with you on this one Phil. There is no way that anybody is goign to see any significant amount of traffic on a .xxx site. The last time i looked and typed something like "interracial" into my browser it did not default to .xxx it defaulted to .com. Every new surfer and even some old ones still type straight into the browser with out the .com. It will be about as useful to our industry as the V-chip is to the television industry. It is only and idea someone drummed up to make themselves a quick little profit.

Which are all reserved for the owner of the pre-registration / people pushing for this...

Matt

I was going to buy the .xxx of my bigger sites with a redirect to the .com on each.

ARN Phillip - Kick Ass Pictures (www.kickass.com) IS WITH YOU ON THIS!

And I do not believe that it will hurt our business AT ALL - since I expect that sites on .xxx are going to be filtered from every ISP in America and most across the world within the first few weeks of it's existence.

Thanks Vic!

A futile fight perhaps, but at least there will be no confusion as to our position when shit meets fan. What's ironic is the "pre-register" .xxx banner I'm seeing at the top of this reply page. Pathetic.

Noble but this is the adult business - same people who spam million and offer 30 minute trials, hidden recurring billing, fuck over the talent and the surfer alike and generally make assholes of themselves.

There will be a run on adult xxx and all the good ones will be snapped up quickly and probably resold at progressively higher prices.

What happens then remains to be seen. My understanding is the with current procedures there is nothing to stop anyone from buying adult.xxx, sex.xxx, blowjobs.xxx , etc. they are not trademarks like "ibm" or whatever.

Also I doubt google will penalize .xxx - they make a shitload on xxx adwords and will be at the feeding trough like everybody else. Meaning, that 1 year later if you type "blowjobs" in google don't be surprised if "blowjobs.xxx" comes up in the free search results.

That is pure absurdity. Few isps would filter .xxx - since they would loose most customers, the majority of which joined to surf porn. Also, no respectable isp in America filters content, do you live in China? Can you imagine the backlast if comcast started doing that.

Corp firewalls - sure. We already run adult content filters in our brick and mortar offices, just like many corporations. Currently maybe 75% of porn websites are blocked in the fortune 500 officeplace anyway, no big deal.

What you people do not udnerstand is that if this version of .xxx goes through it is built to only coralle adult into .xxx.

Ya wont have a choice.
The very monies for each domain purchase will go to groups that's interests are in censoring adult entertainment out of the mainstream and into .xxx.

Make no mistakes if it goes through, ya wont have a choice.

I have proposed a couple things that could change that but no one is listening.

:1orglaugh I love it.

FUCK .XXX...DONT SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT WILL HURT US ALL IN THE FUTURE!

bump for APN

Um, can you look into your crystal ball and tell me whether you're going to get that Nobel Prize any time soon?

The only .xxx domains I will consider registering are type-ins and one word brandable names. I refuse to give in to pressure to buy equivalent domains for a premium otherwise, so you have my support in boycotting .xxx Philip :)

WG

Perhaps his morals, principals and ethical standads are more important to him than $$$$$. And I applaud him to have the courage of his convictions than just saying "Oh well I don't to lose money" and puss out like most everyone else. And these same pussies wil also be bitching when we continue to get law after law that makes it harder and harder to do business because very few have the balls to lose some $$$ and stand by their convictions.

I can tell you alot of things...
But there is no money in it.

You bore me.

RIght after hes done fixing Executive Stats

Glad I can count on you WG!

But I'm curious -- and you would be the perfect one to ask because we both know there is no money in SEO traffic ;-) -- what value is there in a type-in or one word brandable .xxx domain? Won't your new .xxx domains require just as much skill to produce SE traffic as they would your current .com/.net domains? I mean you could register a domain under any TLD and get traffic to it...why .xxx?

SE wise, I see no value in getting domain.xxx versus domain.com or domain.TLD. I do wonder if the SE's will put some kind of penalty on other TLD's should they classify the domain as porn oriented. I doubt such a penalty would be enabled, but its one of those things to consider, just like Visa/MC might one day force .xxx registrations to process CC's. But otherwise, there is no difference from an SEO perspective.

WG

Thanks for the clarification WG.

i am sure this is another one of the states way to continue the war against porn. Any way, if this continues there will be no porn in the states it will all be on the other countries which is much better already. like we do. fuck the states and fuck .xxx

We here are with you all the APN. rock on the adult life.

I think you have not talken a stroll around america lately. ISPs will block .xxx with the exception of a small few. Remind yourself of the mid-west, the south, etc.

And they will lose business. It's fact that though many people use thenet for thing other than porn it's mainly the porn that makes it worth the $40 or more per month cost. If porn is made to go to .XXX then .XXX is banned by my ISDP then I will go with another compmay PERIOD and so will MILLIONS of others. IF no compmay will allow adult content then fuck it I'll just just dial-up at $10 amonth. I not paying $40 a month just to see scores on ESPN.com and do online banking and dial-up is plenty fast for those activities.

Also would be quite hypocritcal for Charter( who I get my internet from ) to block .XXX when they currently offer me not one but FOUR porn channels. And I'm not counting Playboy.

Watch peole say that they wont buy the .xxx domains but when it comes down to it they will. They will shit themselves that it could possibly lower revenue.

sad but true

I stand with APN.

I will not purchase sexy-teen-babes-in-lingerie-tgp.xxx :thumbsup

Seriously - no way will I pay $75.00 to buy an .xxx domain for actual use. It's an obvious money grab.

If the gov passes a law saying porn has to be on .xxx, then I'll scramble to grab something.

a more effective way would be to see if someone else registers a trademarked url and then suing the living fuck out of the register for allowing it to occur.

from the interview with CEO of ICM Registry:
http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=231419

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>So registration will be open to the public?

It is not open to the public. This is limited to bona fide members of the adult community. Cybersquatters will not come through the door.

>Who's bona fide?

We will have identification mechanisms in place and we hope people like AVN, GFY, and places like that will help us authenticate people.

It would have been easy for us to come to AVN and say give us your subscriber list and when people come, you say he's one of ours and we give you $5 for it. But that's exactly the kind of deal we tried to keep away from because we don't want people to think we're buying our supporters.

There is no deal.

We are going to be coming out and saying if you become one of our authentication providers and you authenticate people, we will pay you some money to do it because you're not going to do it for bloody free, are you? We haven't launched that.

>It puts whoever is responsible for authentication in a very advantageous position.


We're not going to just have one.

Some people may want to be authenticated [in this way], and some people won't. If people don't authenticate that way, they're going to have to probably pay us a small fee. They'll go through a manual authentication where we simply call them and they'll say I'm in the business, these are some of my sites or no, I'm not in the business, but I want to start. In that case, we make a note of that, let them start the site and if [it's not adult] we take it down. It's for the community. Cybersquatters and speculators are not allowed.


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looks like landgrabs won't fly..... so that means people with domains (most likely with .com as favored, but not fair to those in other country TLD) will have the first rights to .xxx

So given that, doesn't seem to be a big reason to rush in and grab your .xxx when the only purpose to do so, is to get your .xxx domain immediatey blocked by all filtering software that put in the .xxx patch :1orglaugh


Fight the grabbing of land!

shhhhh...that's gary's plan, you're giving away all the secrets like news reporters who showed us all the best places to bomb.



Fight the Terrorists.xxx !

by buying .xxx domains you are only perpetuating the downfall of non- dot xxx domains and shooting yourself in the foot.

pimpinpays will not be buying any .xxx domains, the domains/names we really care about are already trademarked and protected by law.

if you really want to help the biz, stay the fuck away from DOT XXX

I put $1000 on it that everyone in this thread who says they wont buy their names will buy them the opne you can register to protect their interests. If not other people will purchase them and try getting bits of traffic from them.

The last thing I'd want is still more damned domains - and certainly not interested in dumping more money into some warped commission deal.

Relish XXX...why not put the 1k into the FSC to help them kick the mother fucking shit out of the .XXX deal when they are done with the Govt?

I hope you are wrong, Smashbucks is not going to do it!


FUCK .XXX :321GFY

Censorship online is purely there to try to help policitians get votes. The media like to report daily child porn horror stories to sell papers. We have enough problems in the UK selling DVDs as we can not put a DVD in the post and have to import them to our customers.

Personally I think this is just for voting purposes and will fade away.. Like most people say porn built the internet. The majoirty of men got internet connections to view porn.

I think we should be trying to stir up surfers to try to tell the government where to go. If they thought they would lose votes if they got rid of porn I think their views would change.