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Makingcoin 06-22-2005 03:28 PM

Model Requirements (biz thread) ***PICS***
 
Getting a new contract drafted up for a revshare agreement with a model. These are some of the requirements I have come up with so far. Please feel free to add to the list.

4 shoots a month (times and places determined by Producer)
One 30 minute cam show a week
Daily Journal entries
Active member in message forum
Model to provide her own outfits

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adonthenet 06-22-2005 03:30 PM

sweet N GL

newbreed 06-22-2005 03:31 PM

Video, don't forget video.

FilthyRob 06-22-2005 03:32 PM

More cam time then 30 minutes a week. Try 30 minutes a day

newbreed 06-22-2005 03:32 PM

And do not put a "set" limit on any shoots. Get as many as possible per shoot day just in case.

Makingcoin 06-22-2005 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed
And do not put a "set" limit on any shoots. Get as many as possible per shoot day just in case.

Shoots will be 6 hours long including both vid and pics ...

JD 06-22-2005 03:35 PM

bookmarking this thread!

Makingcoin 06-22-2005 03:35 PM

After shooting for 6 hours I want to kill myself.

Makingcoin 06-22-2005 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FilthyRob
More cam time then 30 minutes a week. Try 30 minutes a day

I agree more web cam time is needed, hard initially when the model is not seeing any revenue from the site to sit in front of her cam for 30 mins a day. But yeah.. more time is needed.. model interaction with the members is essential for retention.

lets bump it up..

xenigo 06-22-2005 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
I agree more web cam time is needed, hard initially when the model is not seeing any revenue from the site to sit in front of her cam for 30 mins a day. But yeah.. more time is needed.. model interaction with the members is essential for retention.

lets bump it up..

Sounds like your model doesn't understand the concept of "work". Talent in this industry always thinks that since this is the "porno biz" that the money will just come flowing into their pockets, without much effort. You really need to explain to her that this is an investment in time, and not just a free ride.

fris 06-22-2005 03:43 PM

thats hot making coin :)

i wanna know who designs your mgp's/tgp's

Makingcoin 06-22-2005 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo
Sounds like your model doesn't understand the concept of "work". Talent in this industry always thinks that since this is the "porno biz" that the money will just come flowing into their pockets, without much effort. You really need to explain to her that this is an investment in time, and not just a free ride.

Definately not a free ride, she is going to work her ass off.

Eric 06-22-2005 03:46 PM

I would designate the shoots as 4 shooting days per month. She could take that as anything. So more detail in that line would be essential.

More cam time for sure. If you are going to pay her a % she will see money pretty quick so that shouldn't be a problem. Undersell it and over deliver.

Ask for her to do amateur shoots a couple times a month and send them in. The professional stuff or semi pro stuff is great but amateur stuff is great too. Even just silly picks of her out on the town etc can all add to a guys exp that he may be out one night and run into the girl.

newbreed 06-22-2005 03:47 PM

2-3 hour long cam shows a week at a minimum if possible. Does wonders for retention.

Makingcoin 06-22-2005 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
thats hot making coin :)

i wanna know who designs your mgp's/tgp's

I have one in house guy that is great. Hit me up bro.

Peter Romero 06-22-2005 04:09 PM

Shoot her for 1 month - 1 year's worth of content. Then do 4 cam shows a week & put 2 sets up each week. Pay percentage after costs - keeps em motivated.

chase 06-22-2005 04:34 PM

You may want to put in some kind of upkeep clause..like, she can't make any major appearance changes without some kind of agreement between you...what if she starts dating a tattoo or piercing artist and gets some work done, or dyes her hair blue, or whatever.

Makingcoin 06-22-2005 05:05 PM

Thank you, last thing we need is a model shaving her head and getting a big picture of jesus across her chest.

sniperwolf 06-22-2005 05:25 PM

hmm nice pair of boobs!

Makingcoin 06-22-2005 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniperwolf
hmm nice pair of boobs!

Thanks, care to comment on the subject at all?

fuzzypeach 06-22-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
Thank you, last thing we need is a model shaving her head and getting a big picture of jesus across her chest.

Thats hot! :1orglaugh

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-22-2005 06:11 PM

So what are you offering the model? Will she continue to be paid a share after she quits working for you or you terminate her employement (as long as the site and content are still up)?

ADG Webmaster

tony286 06-22-2005 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chase
You may want to put in some kind of upkeep clause..like, she can't make any major appearance changes without some kind of agreement between you...what if she starts dating a tattoo or piercing artist and gets some work done, or dyes her hair blue, or whatever.

good point Chase :thumbsup

Makingcoin 06-22-2005 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
So what are you offering the model? Will she continue to be paid a share after she quits working for you or you terminate her employement (as long as the site and content are still up)?

ADG Webmaster

The model will continue to recieve a percentage of net profit from the site as long as she doesn't break the contract.

Socks 06-22-2005 06:46 PM

Affiliate program for those model sites?

pornguy 06-22-2005 06:47 PM

What is your recourse if she does not fufill her end of the contract.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-22-2005 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
The model will continue to recieve a percentage of net profit from the site as long as she doesn't break the contract.

That didn't quite answer my question, so let me re-phrase it, what happens when you part ways - either she chooses to quit modeling, or you chose to not work with her anymore?

Does she still get to be paid as long as the site is up, or do you keep what used to be her share for yourself then?

ADG Webmaster

AaronM 06-22-2005 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
Model to provide her own outfits


The problem I have found is that most models often don't know what looks best on camera. I spend between $500 and $1000 on wardrobe per model per 30 sets. Also hair and other accessories as well as manicures as needed. It's easily within my budget and well worth spend the extra money to get what I want. :2 cents:

chase 06-22-2005 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
Thank you, last thing we need is a model shaving her head and getting a big picture of jesus across her chest.

Exactly, lol

chase 06-22-2005 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
good point Chase :thumbsup

Thank you, Tony. :)

reynold 06-22-2005 07:22 PM

well i think if the model will quit her job or ends up the contract she'll no longer be paid.

chase 06-22-2005 07:40 PM

Oh, you may want to stipulate a severance deal if something happens like she gets in a car accident and loses a limb, or something crazy like that that fucks up her appearance.

LOL, that struck me funny...severance package in case she loses a limb.

taibo 06-22-2005 07:42 PM

yes and make sure you post em here :thumbsup

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-22-2005 09:46 PM

I honestly think that models get the short end of the deal in most instances.

I have heard of examples where guys hire a model, pay them zip for their modeling work, have them do hours of cam work, appearances, etc., for a few months, and then once they have enough content to last a year or two, they dump the model.

On top of that, they only pay the model on the net earnings while she is active (not gross earnings), so she is essentially paying for 50% or more of the webmasters expenses, plus paying most if not all of her own expenses such as outfits (which get real expensive fast, since - unless you are low-budget, you only shoot each outfit once), hair and nails ($100 plus per session), transportation, and all of the time involved with doing cam shows, appearances, etc.

I am not fond of models that are prima dona-like, but I am even less happy with guys that treat models badly by not providing with compensation for the value that they bring to the table. No model, no site.

The end result is that the model's earnings as compared to the pimp...er, webmaster that cons her into such a deal with promises of great riches, is like maybe 10% of the total earnings, if she is lucky. That sucks!!!

I pay models for all modeling, for all cam work (if any), for all appearances, plus give them 50% of the gross and pick up much of their outfit, make-up and transportation/lodging expenses, and I still make a good profit.

There is no need to be so greedy, especially when you are simply cranking out a cookie cutter site on a shared server with burst bandwidth.

ADG Webmaster

Basic_man 06-22-2005 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
Shoots will be 6 hours long including both vid and pics ...

Then write it on then agreement !

austinth 06-22-2005 10:40 PM

must enjoy 'the greek sneak'

VeriSexy 06-22-2005 10:42 PM

Great boobs :thumbsup

JD 06-22-2005 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
I honestly think that models get the short end of the deal in most instances.

I have heard of examples where guys hire a model, pay them zip for their modeling work, have them do hours of cam work, appearances, etc., for a few months, and then once they have enough content to last a year or two, they dump the model.

On top of that, they only pay the model on the net earnings while she is active (not gross earnings), so she is essentially paying for 50% or more of the webmasters expenses, plus paying most if not all of her own expenses such as outfits (which get real expensive fast, since - unless you are low-budget, you only shoot each outfit once), hair and nails ($100 plus per session), transportation, and all of the time involved with doing cam shows, appearances, etc.

I am not fond of models that are prima dona-like, but I am even less happy with guys that treat models badly by not providing with compensation for the value that they bring to the table. No model, no site.

The end result is that the model's earnings as compared to the pimp...er, webmaster that cons her into such a deal with promises of great riches, is like maybe 10% of the total earnings, if she is lucky. That sucks!!!

I pay models for all modeling, for all cam work (if any), for all appearances, plus give them 50% of the gross and pick up much of their outfit, make-up and transportation/lodging expenses, and I still make a good profit.

There is no need to be so greedy, especially when you are simply cranking out a cookie cutter site on a shared server with burst bandwidth.

ADG Webmaster

you pay the model 50% of gross?! Jesus. Do you run an affiliate program? I hope not because the minimum a affiliate will take nowadays is 50% You wouldn't be making anything. You'd be in the red everymonth


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