Cuba offers help to the USA
 

After one minute of silence for the Katrina victims, Fidel Castro offers to send 1100 cuban doctors !
I wonder if the US governement will take the offer !

By the way, England, Germany, France and some other countries offered to send medical help and supplies, did the US accept or not ?

Canada offered help and got told no ... for most part.

That would be a nice recociliation for the US and Cuba

I thought anything Cuban related was taboo in the States

Methinks Chavez and Fidel might actually be enjoying this...

What idiot would trust Cuban doctors ?

What idiot would trust George Bush?

That is nice of him. He knows that bush wont accept the offer.

How does Cuba's medical and health system compare with the rest of Latin America?

So did Russia. Had 4 largest cargo airplanes waiting (wait? no way the Russians would have ?the largest? or ?bigger? or ?better? than united states)? Neh.. we can take ourselves? Just a bunch of black guys dieing out there? God bless America?

Say what you will about Cuba's motivations but they have long sent 1000's of doctors abroad to help the poorest nations for free. This isn't an idle offer, it's part of their "doctors without borders" program.

And actually Cuba's health system is the envy of much of Latin America.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nick.ch...ion/pix/mryia/

Russia does have an airplane that is slightly larger than the USAs C5.

I saw a AN-225 north of boston loading a very large printing press to take back to russia. very cool airplane.


But the C5 is a much better airplane.

do we get to give them back when we are done with them or do we give each of them a house in southern Florida?

Actually.. Cuba's biotech is so advanced that the US admin are fear mongering about them making bio-weapons when really they are just providing income for Cuba in Bio-med exports like any good old US bio-med company.


"When Marxist revolutionary Fidel Castro came to power in 1959, most of Cuba's resources were ploughed into developing education and health systems. In the mid-1980s, with aid from the Soviet Union, Cuba started to invest heavily in science and biotechnology.

Although it is a small country with only 11 million people, it now boasts 52 scientific research institutes in the capital and more than 12,000 scientists on the whole island.

Cuba's health indicators - the infant mortality rate is 6.4 per 1,000 and life expectancy is 75 years - put it in the same league, health-wise, as the US and Britain. The quality and efficiency of its comprehensive, and free, health-care system contrasts sharply with the sluggish and inefficient state-controlled economy.

Cuba pulled off its first scientific coup with the discovery of a new vaccine for meningitis B in the late 1980s. The vaccine controlled epidemics at home, and obtained good results abroad especially in Argentina and Brazil.

Havana's Carlos J. Finlay Institute has entered into a deal that allows major drug multinational GlaxoSmithKline to license its discovery in order to facilitate the first entry of a Cuban medical product into the more lucrative Western market. "

Over 50 countries have offered support to the US and none have been turned down. Some have been told we are fine for now but if we do need the assistance you are offering we will take you up on it as needed. And as far as our neighbor to the North :321GFY

Critics from your own country blasted Prime Minister Paul Martin for staying silent until late Wednesday, then only offering a routine sympathy message. Martin has been said to have shown "a shocking lack of personal support for the United States" to quote Stockwell Day. Bush and Martin may not get along but you can bet your ass if something happened in Canada we'd be there full strength to help you.

I got a horrible kidney infection in Mexico a couple of years ago and was convinced I was going to die and have to be shipped back in a box, lol. I was really worried that I was going to have to see some 19 year old Mexican kid claiming to be an MD and wanting to do a pelvic exam on me.

Luckily, I got a doctor that had trained at Miami, but a concierge told me that I might even "luck out" and get to see Dr. So-and-so, from Cuba. I said, "I guess that's bad, right?" She looked at me like I was crazy and said, "No! Always try to get a Cuban trained doctor." That was news to me.

Yeah,we have thousands of cuban doctors here right now in Venezuela while there are other thousands of venezuelan doctors without jobs or underpaid.
Call me crazy,but I see this as part of the cuban infiltration in every aspect of venezuelan life and economy.And Chavez is very willing to give our country to Fidel for some reason

off topic: Where do you live in Venezuela kektex ?

Cuba has a good medical and education system.

I´m in Caracas

Ok thanks. In case you wonder why i'm asking, i'm totally in love with your country... beautiful and great people.

Thanks! If you (or anybody else interested) ever come down here I´ll be glad to show you around! :thumbsup

That's good because they all need us now... Good offer! :)

wow, one person on the whole board who actually understands the motive behind their "offer".

does typing lies and bullshit actually make you think its true. you people are so ignorant it just staggers the mind.

An idiot that don't know what he's talking about ... like you.

Cuban are really advanced in health care ... that's one of the good point of the revolution.

In certain field, they are probably more advanced then canadian / americans... and I didn't dig that out of james bond... lol

Actually I'm glad that we didn't participate in Iraq ...

Wow ... what about you shut the fuck up you stupid troll because on this one, you really have NO idea what you are talking about ... cubans have been helping out for a while now.

Very good read. One doesn't get that angle from Fox News :winkwink:

dont sweat it...this board is filled with both smart americans...and dumb ones...

just like it's filled with dumb european, dumb canadians...and also smart ones..


this one just happen to be a dumb american!..

That'll be the day, when Cuba helps the US :)
Those doctors will afterwards settle in Miami :)

Both Cuban docs and nurses are rated highly $5. A good few "civilized countries" are pleased to get em and they are often used as part of international aid efforts.

Again.. excuse the cynicism - but it's often down the the individual doc or nurse irrespective of where they come from or were trained! :1orglaugh

What a thread...

Must be fun when the guy has so much pride that he rather let his people suffer :1orglaugh

The kind of idiot who needs help from some of the best doctors in the world :2 cents:

Good to know. I've heard of Cuba's priorities re education and health. Very different from other countries... hell, very different from the Philippines where I'm based. We could definitely use those priorities here. Lots of kids dying from simple and easily avoidable Vitamin A deficiency. Not that we have a lack of medical personnel here... Its because its a private system and most are economically pushed to leave the country.

True, individual and social priorities do play a major role. While the Philippines has historically accorded a high regard for nurses and doctors, they pay them shit wages so most leave. Most US hospitals in California have a large population of Filipino/Filipina nurses. Filipino nurses have a reputation for being hard working and going the extra mile. I believe that... not just because my brother is a nurse in Los Angeles but also because most Filipinos who emigrate to the US remember how hard life is in the Philippines so they put in the extra effort.

I guess you dont know where the best doctors come from, too bad to be an ignorant.

Does anyone has links to good articles about cuban medical system ?

"MENTION faraway Cuba and most people think of a Caribbean island best known for Havana cigars, rum and the revolutionary exploits of Che Guevara. They probably don't associate it with cutting edge medical research.

Yet Cuban biotechnology is now, among other things, leading the way in the development of a new generation of anti-cancer therapies expected to be available to the European market by 2008. "

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=3193


"Pro-embargo logic forms a vicious and bizarre circle: Washington outlaws trade with Cuba, even in medicine, forcing Cuba to develop its own advanced pharmaceutical and biotechnological industry. Washington then cites that industry as evidence of Cuba?s ability to wage biological warfare. Washington therefore labels Cuba a terrorist nation. Thus the embargo is ?not only legitimate, but essential.?


http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Jun2003/franklin0603.html

Thanks :)

I pass through your country every few months. I have a girlfriend in Caracas and we like to go spend the weekend in Chorni from time to time or up in Merida for some trekking. You have a beautiful country.

Im in Colombia right now. Shoot me an email so I can have your contact info and will get in touch next time I come down.

DigitalDopeMedia (at) Yahoo.com

well said

I too have read many glowing reports on cuba's medical & scientific research & standrads

apparently they're leading the way in certain areas of drug research, the US scientists find it difficult to work together on projects and use this knowledge because of the embargo

Yo man - if you read this, drop me a line - I've been trying to get in touch with you for some time, last I heard you were in Colombia, I'm glad you're alright :)

since you lived in the cave for most of your live, cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world

Antonov is the beiggest plane in the world, now that the coolest


http://www.challoner.com/aviation/pix/mryia/21-1.jpg

Yeah right... because everyone is just dying to live in the US eh? Give me a break.

:1orglaugh You really think life in Cuba is like life in Calgary, you give me a break :1orglaugh

i can't believe you are so naive to think that the offer is politically motivated and the acceptance or refusal is politically motivated.

meant to say that the offer IS obviously politically motivated and its acceptance or refusal will also be politically motivated.


wow.


going to bed now. :)

I'm gonna have to say I learned something today..