WOW! FBI charges STORY site with Obsenity!
 

?Trust me on this. I found out the hard way. I never thought I'd be in trouble for the written word," Rosie told XBiz via email. ?I had no pictures of a sexual nature on my site, adult or otherwise......

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=10680

When they start calling words obsenity we're all in trouble. This is insane.

what the fuck? omg...

That is wild. I can't say that I agree with erotic stories involving underage scenarios though! But .......it's supposed to be a free country. This is definitely a scary development.

" Land of the Free " :1orglaugh

There has to be more to that story...

Freedom of Speach at its finest hour! :thumbsup

holy shit, wtf

damn this industry is fucked, if more and more arrests keep happening i'm definitely getting out. this is going too far. i cant be on the news for going to jail over obscenity...i have big goals for my future...this is ridiculous. pretty soon they're gonna try and shut down anything related to porn, obscene or not...

I do not care what a story is about. It could be as sick, perverted, evil, and downright dispicable to satan himself and it should never be considered illegal.
It is a fucking story. You can not be forced to read a story, where you could be forced to view a picture or movie before you could react.
Damn it all to hell. I better see some outstanding legal services jumping all over this and a certain organization better be up in arms the second they find out about it.

underage sex is featured in movies, television shows every day and has for a long time.

brooke shields was supposed to be how old in Pretty Baby when she was prostituing her pussy? 12?

Fast Times at ridgetmont high even has underagesex.

if you stop allowing folks to write about teenagers having sex you might as well start burning books again.

there is not a movie about highschools out that doesnt feature sex.

underage sex is as popular now as it was when Blind Faith made this album cover

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bean95/...ges/22432f.jpg

sex with children stories wont be helping your case anytime soon, regardless of what state the jury is from :2 cents:

You know, if they have stories involving CP then I'm not surprised they got shut down. There are some things you just totally stay away from.

OK, I agree. I personally would not CHOOSE to read a story involving underage sex, but I would not want to live in a country that won't allow consenting adults to read it if that is what they choose to do. Freedom of speech is supposed to be sacred in our country, and I think that adults should be able to view what they want in the privacy of their own homes (as long as it's legal). Once censorship stars, it won't stop. I hope the FSC reads this thread.

I agree with that, there is a point when a story involving disgusting CP is just taking it TOO FAR.

i'm gonna write a letter to arnold, lol...

Next thing you know.... you won't even be able to rent....

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...taxiposter.jpg

we must also arrest Danny Elfman and OINGO BOINGO!

I love little girls they make me feel so good
I love little girls they make me feel so bad
When they're around they make me feel
Like I'm the only guy in town
I love little girls they make me feel so good

They don't care if I'm a one way mirror
They're not frightened by my cold exterior

They don't ask me questions
They don't want to scold me
They don't look for answers
They just want to hold me
Isn't this fun
Isn't this what life's all about
Isn't this a dream come true
Isn't this a nightmare too

(Repeat first verse)

They don't care about my inclinations
They're not frightened by my revelations

Uh oh take a second take
Uh oh it's a mistake
Uh oh I'm in trouble
Uh oh the little girl was just too little
Too little, too little, too little
Isn't this what life's all about
Isn't this a dream come true
Isn't this a nightmare too . . .

And I don't care what people say
And I don't care what people think
And I don't care how we look walking down the street

We should arrest BB King for siging "Sweet Sixteen" and Mick Jagger too!

i'm thinking that i'm not even gonna use the term "teen" anymore just to be safe...these fuckers aren't playing around anymore...

my money is on the pedo stories..

if you can use google.. you can find some of these great literatry works.

Wow I cant believe it, a site like hers is last place I thought the FBI would head to next.

Why?
I am very against CP, though as Fletch XXX posted above. In Pretty Baby with brooke shields she portrayed herself as like 12 and on top of that she actually was very underage and doing nude implied sex scenes.

Brooke Shields has lived a very CP oriented life and childhood. Her mom had guys taking pictures of her nude at 10. She di numerous movies featuring her and underage sex, and its all in mainstream.

Also, "Jefferson" from Married With Children was in his 20s when he took her to her prom (yes she was underage) - she has been getting banged by older guys since she was 15. And its all public knowledge too. Very weird. So at 10 she was posing nude, and by 16 or 17 was going to proms with 25 year olds. He was 7 years older than her :)

http://imdb.com/name/nm0000222/bio

no doubt shes fucked in the head after that childhood.

obscenity is in the eye of the beholder.
but do you have the 200 to 500 grand just to prove that in court?
that is what they are counting on.
just hit you in the wallet, and you are gone.

Befiore you start going off on the FBI, consder the following SAMPLE of the story titles from this site:

MY MOTHER MOLESTS LITTLE GIRLS (F/f, oral; inc, m/g, pedo)
My Seductive Daughter (Mg,cons, extreme-pedo)
My Special Girl (Mg, pedo)
NIGHTMARE THE BEGINNING (ped, bdsm, rape,abuse)
Playground Antics (Child sex, Pedo)
SCHOOLHOUSE STRETCH 1 (ped, bdsm, abuse)
Second Graders Are Sexy (M/g, pedo, oral, cons)
Sex Store Cindy (Hetero sex, Gangbang, Pedo, Child abuse)
Sexually abused?
SHERIFF NANCY (ped, bdsm, abuse)
Slut Family 1 (underage sex / zoo sex girl-dog / family incest / group sex)
Stacy (pedo)
Stacy (Pedo, Mg)
ST.RADEGUND'S SCHOOL FOR THE CORRECTION OF GIRLS
Stud Job (Mg,cons, extreme-pedo)
The Whores Daughter (ped, abuse, incest)
YOUNG CARGO (ped, bdsm,violent rape abuse)

Now...

Consider this: Alexa ranking for the site is higher than 1,333,000 - so the site is getting VERY VERY VERY few hits per day.

Consider this: I operate a number of stories sites, and honestly, I ain't never heard of this place. Their main page shows that they are basically hosting stuff from the Rusty and Edie's BBS, and "lolita" stories... preteen, teen, and (are you ready?) TODDLER.

Subject matter includes snuff and serial abuse.

The site also featured a live chat room and seeming easy file transfers between users.

Trust me, the whole story is not out there.

They are fucking pedos, and they will get everything they deserve. If you cannot see the difference between "Brianna Gets Molested at the Mall M/g NC" and "Taxi Driver" then you have truly missed the boat in life.

Alex

I have to agree that they pushed the envelope with stories about children, and animals. but the printed word, is the printed word.

so folks know, i never ever click links from gfy, so i did not read the xbiz article nor did i look at any sample titles.

i am speaking solely about art and literature.

cheers everyone.... its friday time to go have some fun!

:thumbsup

I agree 100%

good point, i'm glad they're taking down that site...

If its about file transfers then fine hit the people sharing them.
If they are pedo's in reality again bust them for that.
If its because of their story material, which if there is indeed a hell may they go there when they die. Though writing such material no matter how disturbed is not and should not be illegal. Our right to free speach is to protect material that everyone else finds fucking discusting and or nobody wants to hear.

sex with children is wrong - they deserved to get taken down

There is no proof that they were stopped for the printed word, but potentially for the actions in their live chatrooms and similar. I suspect there was some file swapping going on... if you know what I mean.

Don't stick up for pedos.

Alex

Taking the article at face value people are getting hungup on the CP stuff (btw there's a lot of VERY famous authors with published books involving explicit underage sex scenes - think this is OK and see big chunks of your local library vanish) and ignoring the rest...

"Red Rose Stories is facing obscenity charges for posting stories that allegedly involved bestiality, water sports, scat, bondage and domination, S&M, slavery, threesomes, orgies and sex with children. "

The article says that the obscenity charges are also for...S&M, theesomes, orgies, bondage. The woman invloved then goes on to say...

" [It seems] the only legal sex stories are those that involve a man and a woman consenting to missionary position sex in a dark room.?

As I read it she's being done for obscenity on pretty mainstream stuff too.

yes...sex with children is wrong, but are little text characters describing it wrong?

i hate this fucking country

Who gives a fuck what you think is too far. I'm sure the christian fucks in charge thinks the shit you promote takes things too far also and would love to see your ass in a cell, whatya think of that?

Anytime written words are made illegal it becomes a form of thought control, do you like the govt having control over what you can and cannot think?

EWWWW, THOSE STORY TITLES ARE SICK. They deserve what they are getting! I'm sorry, but that's just taking it too far. All those sorts of stories do is arouse a sick population!

I dont care what anyone says, sex with children stories is way overstepping your boundaries, you will not find 1 mentally stable, sane person who is ok with that content.

"Words" were never outside the realms of obscenity - there are been many obscenity trials over books.

When it comes to "stories about sex with children" on Rosie's site, are we discussing the literary works of Vladimir Nabokov?? :winkwink:

Hell.. very naive to think "no pictures of a sexual nature" is a clean sheet in legal terms on the net. The fact that dripping cumshot images exist is not a license to assume all is well - especially with the warped Administration currently in power in the US.

But, the good news is that the majority of cases over "words" have failed, tho often because of the legal backing of major publishing houses.

what people do not seem to be aware of is that this is not the first time, the laws have been tested in court and stories about beastiality, child porn etc are a no no.

You do not have to care what anyone says, and you are right there are no mentally stable/sane people who think this sort of stuff is ok reading material. That is the side note though. Our freedom of speach is not directed that way. If even one person wishes to write such sick shit and share it with other sick people, no matter the content. It is and should be legal. I can not and will not back down from that.

lemme get this straight, there are webmasters who actually peddle anal sex and preggo sex but think a story about a guy who likes to fuck a chicken should get a man jail time and have his rights removed.

oh man, im done with this thread, only idiots will continue this argument.

i dont want to fuck a pig, but a story about it shouldnt be illegal :1orglaugh

in one word - yes.

When you are profiting from stories about pedo sex, YES IT IS VERY FUCKING WRONG.

Sleazy, for the first time in my years of reading your posts I must say your personal catch phrase gets to be worn by you today.

anyone who truly thinks this is a 'good thing' needs to rethink their place in this industry. it matters not whether the *fictional* written word is repugnant to you personally, dragging americans to jail and/or stiffling their freedoms over the written word is abhorent, and totally contrary to the rights that americans are supposed to be able to expect..

:2 cents:

maybe everyone forgot about this...


Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the FREEDOM OF SPEECH, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That always surprises me! Some webmasters clearly have nada clue re the nature of some of the material "they think" (and hope) is "legal". Probably because they have never been charged or have to stand up in court and defend their content.

Ask any attorney specializing in this area, - whether within the US or elsewhere, - they always come up with the same comments which are usually "how the net got off lightly so far" and "it's only a matter of time".

Being blind or naive to the possibility of prosecution is lalaland fantasy.

YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE HALF OF IT!

This website and its operator were a catalyst for CP and underage sex in realtime/real life. The FBI wanted the computers not because they wanted the stories, but because files of another nature were being passes around here.

Remember the Candyman bust where they hammered something like 1,700 guys who were involved in trading pictures of children, NOT posing in artwork but instead ingaging in sex with adults? THAT is what this is about. After the FBI serves the warrants on the traders of CP, XBiz will try to distance themselves from that story they printed.

It will be like when the news broadcast the lastest and greatest diet drug Phen-Phen and then took a sharp 180 degree turn and warned the public that it kills you.

Looks like the story really shouldn't be taken at face value then and xbiz really haven't done their homework before publishing that.

So you're not only fat, you're fucking stupid as shit too, I can't understand why you're single in your late 30's.

It's fucking written words moron. You can't censor books/text in any way.

Murder is wrong too, but I can fucking write about it all I want in a free country.

If there is nothing else to this story than the written stories, they should not be censored. If you don't believe in free speech for the speech you hate most, you don't believe in free speech at all.


I can't believe that people in this business are defending the FBI here. I guess that's what happens when half of the business is comprised of half retarded high school drop outs who couldn't get a job anywhere else. Anyone who defends the FBI here should have their FSC membership revoked. What the fuck do you morons think the FS stands for???