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brand0n 10-25-2005 12:37 PM

need i remind you that matrix content gave its webamster list to Acacia?
 
you people are so fuckin funny.

you bump heads with this guy over his fuckin camera.. his fucking camera? and yet no one mentions a word to him about the fact that him and his company, to save there own ass sold ALOT of us out.

get your fucking prioritys straight.

fuck that camera, he can stick that up his fucking ass and take pov tonsil pics as far as im conserned.

why not back him into a corner and have him address a reall issue. the fact that his company handed alot of us over on a silver platter to save there own fucking skin.

anyways, get back to the would you hit it threads.....

TheMob 10-25-2005 12:38 PM

what did they do?

brand0n 10-25-2005 12:42 PM

they handed over there buyers list in some sort of deal to save there selfs.

in other words 100s of webmasters got letters from acacia directly due to them.

SilentKnight 10-25-2005 12:42 PM

I was never aware of his past history. I don't tune in for all the episodes of the soap opera.


SilentKnight

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www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com

Monique Niccole 10-25-2005 12:45 PM

I think it was mentioned a couple of times in that thread. People remember. That's why they got beat up so badly in that thread. Otherwise everyone would have brused it off as just another shitty photographer.

brand0n 10-25-2005 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight
I was never aware of his past history. I don't tune in for all the episodes of the soap opera.


SilentKnight

always best to close your eyes and hope it dont happen to you.

Far-L 10-25-2005 12:49 PM

Matrix wasn't the only ones to hand over lists...

Cybererotica, Porndollar, and quite a few others did too...

Hope they are all enjoying the audits and the license fees... the benefits of their "business decisions".

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

SilentKnight 10-25-2005 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
always best to close your eyes and hope it dont happen to you.

From what I gather...this little drama took place before I signed aboard here at GFY.

Besides that, Acacia doesn't concern us. We don't produce streaming video.


SilentKnight

www.kastlearchives.com
www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com

directfiesta 10-25-2005 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight
From what I gather...this little drama took place before I signed aboard here at GFY.

Besides that, Acacia doesn't concern us. We don't produce streaming video.


SilentKnight

www.kastlearchives.com
www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com


lol...LOL .....LOL :1orglaugh

Far-L 10-25-2005 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight
From what I gather...this little drama took place before I signed aboard here at GFY.

Besides that, Acacia doesn't concern us. We don't produce streaming video.


SilentKnight

www.kastlearchives.com
www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com

That doesn't matter to Acacia... they want you to pay if you so much as link to a sponsor that has streams. And that does include you by the looks of it...

Peaches 10-25-2005 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L
Matrix wasn't the only ones to hand over lists...

Cybererotica, Porndollar, and quite a few others did too...

Hope they are all enjoying the audits and the license fees... the benefits of their "business decisions".

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I had a Cybererotica account - can't remember if I had one with Porndollar or not (I don't THINK I did) and I didn't have one with Matrix. I never got any Acacia letters. Wouldn't I have if CE handed their list over?

Dirty F 10-25-2005 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight
I was never aware of his past history. I don't tune in for all the episodes of the soap opera.


SilentKnight

www.kastlearchives.com
www.fetishopolis.com
www.chamberofchains.com


Dude, i have sigs turned off for a reason.
I dont want to see your sig.

sextoyking 10-25-2005 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches
I had a Cybererotica account - can't remember if I had one with Porndollar or not (I don't THINK I did) and I didn't have one with Matrix. I never got any Acacia letters. Wouldn't I have if CE handed their list over?


So true Peaches :)

CE still rocking after what 8-9 years!

SilentKnight 10-25-2005 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Dude, i have sigs turned off for a reason.
I dont want to see your sig.

Try this - avert eyes.

But just for you...I'll leave it out in this reply, and spare your retinas.


SilentKnight

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-25-2005 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
the fact that his company handed alot of us over on a silver platter to save there own fucking skin.

Really? I think you should maybe post some proof to that statement or be banned.

Dirty F 10-25-2005 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight
Try this - avert eyes.

But just for you...I'll leave it out in this reply, and spare your retinas.


SilentKnight

Dude, just get a normal sig in your user cp and you can leave it on in every post. I wont see it that way. Its not magic you know.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-25-2005 01:17 PM

And look at Far L going into Slander again.

Pathetic.

Double L 10-25-2005 01:22 PM

Yeah, they weren't the only sellouts, but never again will I buy Matrix content.

jimthefiend 10-25-2005 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
you people are so fuckin funny.

you bump heads with this guy over his fuckin camera.. his fucking camera? and yet no one mentions a word to him about the fact that him and his company, to save there own ass sold ALOT of us out.

get your fucking prioritys straight.

fuck that camera, he can stick that up his fucking ass and take pov tonsil pics as far as im conserned.

why not back him into a corner and have him address a reall issue. the fact that his company handed alot of us over on a silver platter to save there own fucking skin.

anyways, get back to the would you hit it threads.....



I was waiting for someone to point that out. I'd have done it myself, but you know me, Im afraid of confrontation.

brand0n 10-25-2005 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Really? I think you should maybe post some proof to that statement or be banned.

really, and i dont give 2 shakes of a dogs cock what you think.

news flash for ya bozo, you can step off your fucking high horse and remember you are JUST a fucking designer here. an avg designer at that.

when your name hits supermod list, then you can come up with who gets banned for when and when, but ive got dollars to donuts that will never happen.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-25-2005 01:27 PM

But where is the proof Brand0n?

Alot of you folks just assumed when that went down and in the hysteria it as driven that Matrix did it, and even more chose to hate on Matrix for thier success.

You're call here is unsubstantiated without proof.
You know something I do not or other do not?
Cuz I got alot of info pal.

Far-L 10-25-2005 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
And look at Far L going into Slander again.

Pathetic.


I wouldn't be posting that if I did not know it for a fact.

Fool.

Far-L 10-25-2005 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
And look at Far L going into Slander again.

Pathetic.

Moron... go back to school... you don't even know the difference between slander and libel.

brand0n 10-25-2005 01:41 PM

slander is spoken, libel is the word you are looking for

and you want proof.

well as for me its this simple. i misspelled my last name with matrix when i signed up for them. a very very uncommon misspell, done in a drunken state.

low and behold, right on my paper work, same misspelling.

and im not the only one by far. why not do some research seeing you got all this info. see that search tab up there? works like a fucking charm (currently)

type in "acacia", "acacia matrix", "matrix acacia" or any combo you can come up with and watch the responses roll in

but ofcourse like every thread YOU know more then anyone else. YOU have the inside track and are clued in with play by plays by all the major players in this game. You know more then me on this.

question "pal" did you even get a letter?

Far-L 10-25-2005 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches
I had a Cybererotica account - can't remember if I had one with Porndollar or not (I don't THINK I did) and I didn't have one with Matrix. I never got any Acacia letters. Wouldn't I have if CE handed their list over?

Ask Ron or Jason. I am still under a confidentiality order.

NLB 10-25-2005 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
And look at Far L going into Slander again.

Pathetic.

Far L is involved with the group to fight Acacia and he should no better than to post this bullshit. Didn't Matrix fund that? Thanks for your bold statement it will be passes on to our attorneys and since we never were protected like promised and they cashed our $25,000 check. Anyone can believe what they want I really don't care anymore. Matrix has been responsible for making millions of dollars for it's webmasters and will continue to do so. Have a nice day!

NLB 10-25-2005 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L
Ask Ron or Jason. I am still under a confidentiality order.


Don't get pissy because you lost your bullshit case. Loser!

FreeHugeMovies 10-25-2005 02:00 PM

All I know is, is that my webmaster friends who purchased content from Matrix received letters. Those who did not receive any.

NickPapageorgio 10-25-2005 02:07 PM

I know this is off topic...but I haven't misspelled my last name since kintergarden...no matter how drunk I was...but that's just me. :)

brand0n 10-25-2005 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies
All I know is, is that my webmaster friends who purchased content from Matrix received letters. Those who did not receive any.

amazing coincidence eh?

same goes with the misspelling of my last name.

so NLB you are saying that it didnt happen, we are all fools, and due to the fact youve made millions of dollars that we are all sheep, blind and stupid?

just trying to keep everything clear here.


and old man once told me, if you see smoke, smell smoke, and feel a large amount of heat, odds are something is on fire.

NLB 10-25-2005 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies
All I know is, is that my webmaster friends who purchased content from Matrix received letters. Those who did not receive any.

As I said before. If our list got out it was done by a former hating employee. Of all people that came to me with the info, they signed up before the departure of this person. I'm quite sure that a couple of people on this board know the facts. What I'm arguing here is that we gave it over. DID NOT HAPPEN! Matrix is now run by family and we protect our information. If you can't trust family, who can you trust. This whole thing is boring and old.

Thank you and come again.

NickPapageorgio 10-25-2005 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
amazing coincidence eh?

same goes with the misspelling of my last name.

so NLB you are saying that it didnt happen, we are all fools, and due to the fact youve made millions of dollars that we are all sheep, blind and stupid?

just trying to keep everything clear here.


and old man once told me, if you see smoke, smell smoke, and feel a large amount of heat, odds are something is on fire.

I am not going to get involved as it's not really my arguement here, but if the misspelling of your last name is so common...couldn't whoever did send you the letter have misspelled it? Just saying...

beemk 10-25-2005 02:12 PM

for those of you living under a rock:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=matrix+acacia

NickPapageorgio 10-25-2005 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk
for those of you living under a rock:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=matrix+acacia

Thanks for that thread.

And just because some joined this board late or were too young in the business to really understand what was going on...it doesn't mean we're under a rock lmao :1orglaugh

Interesting reading though. I had no idea all that went down... :(

WWC-Jon 10-25-2005 02:15 PM

Quote:

As I said before. If our list got out it was done by a former hating employee. Of all people that came to me with the info, they signed up before the departure of this person. I'm quite sure that a couple of people on this board know the facts. What I'm arguing here is that we gave it over. DID NOT HAPPEN! Matrix is now run by family and we protect our information. If you can't trust family, who can you trust.
So what are you trying to say?

NLB 10-25-2005 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Azure
So what are you trying to say?


LOL. Before you left my friend. You know the guy that tried to steal all our model's contact information too!
:winkwink:

Holly 10-25-2005 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB
Far L is involved with the group to fight Acacia and he should no better than to post this bullshit.

And if you're going to post on an industry message board and represent that pathetic company of yours, you should at least know how to spell 'know'.

Idiot.

jayeff 10-25-2005 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
...yet no one mentions a word to him about the fact that him and his company, to save there own ass sold ALOT of us out.

  1. I never heard a peep from Acacia, despite being a long-term customer of Matrix, so I am not convinced they did what they are accused of.
  2. A bunch of other companies made similar deals with Acacia (which even if it did not involve handing over webmaster info was still a self-interested sellout) so why do Matrix so often get singled out and rarely a word is spoken against the others?
  3. It would be wonderful if we started to treat good business ethics seriously. But the first step would be consistency and it seems some in our industry are teflon coated while others are never allowed to live anything down.

NLB 10-25-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff
  1. I never heard a peep from Acacia, despite being a long-term customer of Matrix, so I am not convinced they did what they are accused of.
  2. A bunch of other companies made similar deals with Acacia (which even if it did not involve handing over webmaster info was still a self-interested sellout) so why do Matrix so often get singled out and rarely a word is spoken against the others?
  3. It would be wonderful if we started to treat good business ethics seriously. But the first step would be consistency and it seems some in our industry are teflon coated while others are never allowed to live anything down.

Thank you!

NLB 10-25-2005 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly
And if you're going to post on an industry message board and represent that pathetic company of yours, you should at least know how to spell 'know'.

Idiot.


ouch! I'm so hurt! Sorry I work for a living! You can spend all day on your post and reread them over and over. FU!

tapatio 10-25-2005 02:26 PM

http://tinypic.com/f07odj.jpg

MattO 10-25-2005 02:30 PM

When I got a letter from Acacia, there was a typo in my address.

I didn't realize the connection till threads sprang up, so I logged into Matrix, which I hadn't done in a while, and saw the same typo.

I haven't seen a duplicate typo in any other accounts I'm signed up for, and haven't recieved anything from Acacia without it.

Interpret that as you will.

baddog 10-25-2005 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
slander is spoken, libel is the word you are looking for

and you want proof.

well as for me its this simple. i misspelled my last name with matrix when i signed up for them. a very very uncommon misspell, done in a drunken state.

low and behold, right on my paper work, same misspelling.

and im not the only one by far. why not do some research seeing you got all this info. see that search tab up there? works like a fucking charm (currently)

type in "acacia", "acacia matrix", "matrix acacia" or any combo you can come up with and watch the responses roll in

but ofcourse like every thread YOU know more then anyone else. YOU have the inside track and are clued in with play by plays by all the major players in this game. You know more then me on this.

question "pal" did you even get a letter?


Sorry, but you spell everything wrong . . . that hardly proves anything except that you are a sloppy speller/typist.

WiredGuy 10-25-2005 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB
As I said before. If our list got out it was done by a former hating employee. Of all people that came to me with the info, they signed up before the departure of this person. I'm quite sure that a couple of people on this board know the facts. What I'm arguing here is that we gave it over. DID NOT HAPPEN! Matrix is now run by family and we protect our information. If you can't trust family, who can you trust. This whole thing is boring and old.

Thank you and come again.


I seriously hope you did something against this former employee of yours as it certainly has tainted your company image and aggrevated many webmasters who needed legal counsel because of information that was either leaked or volunteered from your company, myself included.

WG

Holly 10-25-2005 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB
ouch! I'm so hurt! Sorry I work for a living! You can spend all day on your post and reread them over and over. FU!

You're probably right. I'm sure it's hard work to sit around all day and copy your customer data base and hand it over. That totally explains why you can't spell on a second grade level. My apologies.

Far-L 10-25-2005 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB
Don't get pissy because you lost your bullshit case. Loser!


Case is not over numbnut. Who told you CE won... your Daddy-O ron?

Let's talk after the audit. By the way... we didn't ask for a confidentiality order and would be happy if it were lifted... can ron say the same? If he is so honest then he should have nothing to hide....

Until then... Keep your nose in the pile of cocaine and out of my business. Aren't there some trannies around to keep you occupied?

Far-L 10-25-2005 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I seriously hope you did something against this former employee of yours as it certainly has tainted your company image and aggrevated many webmasters who needed legal counsel because of information that was either leaked or volunteered from your company, myself included.

WG

The whole disgruntled former employee thing is a pile of sheep turd. He knows good and well how it really got out.

BigasMoe 10-25-2005 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLB
ouch! I'm so hurt! Sorry I work for a living! You can spend all day on your post and reread them over and over. FU!

Hey Norm if I were you I wouldn't even waste my time addressing the BullShit in this thread. There's always someone in a thread or people on the board that like to care around their own spoons. That way they can Stir the Shit everywhere they go. Funny how you never see the spoon carriers never seem tomake it to the shows. :2 cents: :pimp

WiredGuy 10-25-2005 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L
The whole disgruntled former employee thing is a pile of sheep turd. He knows good and well how it really got out.

I don't really buy it either, but I'm just saying I hope they got something worth it in the end, as the frustration caused to webmasters cannot possibly have helped business.

WG

Far-L 10-25-2005 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigasMoe
Hey Norm if I were you I wouldn't even waste my time addressing the BullShit in this thread. There's always someone in a thread or people on the board that like to care around their own spoons. That way they can Stir the Shit everywhere they go. Funny how you never see the spoon carriers never seem tomake it to the shows. :2 cents: :pimp

I go to shows. Here is my real name, Farrell Timlake.

I am not stirring anything... If anything I was doing Matrix a favor by pointing out they were not the only ones to settle with Acacia and turn over their customer lists per the Acacia license requirements.

Norman came in to attack me personally. No reason I should not be able to defend myself accordingly.

:321GFY


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