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MaxCandy 10-29-2005 11:22 AM

Sex and Violence, Movies can have lots of Sex, Or lots of Violence, but not both, Why
 
Sex and Violence, Movies can have lots of Hard Sex, Or lots of Hard Violence, but not both, Why?

Fiction is fiction No?

BRISK 10-29-2005 11:23 AM

Basic Instinct has both

MaxCandy 10-29-2005 11:24 AM

Hard Sex???

i think not!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-29-2005 11:25 AM

Sure they can, I guess it depends on the risk ya willing to take or how far your mind is able to go.

Will you face condemnation or cheer's of applause I guess is what it amounts to in the final piece.

For example if ya created a highly violent piece with lots of sex in it, and the story you tell, more than likely if you're story is of substance artistically and creatively it will be revered.

Thats the trick I think.

psili 10-29-2005 11:30 AM

Jack Nicholson had a great line; something like

"Show a breast, rated R. Chop off a head, rated PG".

I think that has something to do with it, the rating system, I mean.

MaxCandy 10-29-2005 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psili
Jack Nicholson had a great line; something like

"Show a breast, rated R. Chop off a head, rated PG".

I think that has something to do with it, the rating system, I mean.

in europe it is the other way around

tits (seen on TV ads) G

Violence R

psili 10-29-2005 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxCandy
in europe it is the other way around

tits (seen on TV ads) G

Violence R

That's what depresses me about living in America (USA).

Oh well. The "USA" is still young and maybe some offspring of mine will live in a place harboring different perspectives.

Elli 10-29-2005 12:44 PM

Check out Roger Corman movies? :)

MaxCandy 10-29-2005 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Check out Roger Corman movies? :)

they have both?

Elli 10-29-2005 01:29 PM

they're horrible movies, but they usually have a good mix of naked amazonian women taking advantage of poor confused earth men, and then everyone gets in a good old phaser gun fight just for old times' sake. They run almost every other night on Space channel here.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000339/

Check these titles:

# Stripteaser II (1997) (executive producer)
# Carnosaur 3: Primal Species (1996) (producer)
# Inhumanoid (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Black Rose of Harlem (1996) (executive producer)
# Alien Terminator (1996) (executive producer)
# Alien Avengers (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Bio-Tech Warrior (1996) (executive producer)
# Death Game (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# House of the Damned (1996) (executive producer)
# Humanoids from the Deep (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Ladykiller (1996/I) (producer)
# Last Exit to Earth (1996) (TV)

blazi 10-29-2005 01:32 PM

that's a good question really!

MaxCandy 10-30-2005 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
they're horrible movies, but they usually have a good mix of naked amazonian women taking advantage of poor confused earth men, and then everyone gets in a good old phaser gun fight just for old times' sake. They run almost every other night on Space channel here.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000339/

Check these titles:

# Stripteaser II (1997) (executive producer)
# Carnosaur 3: Primal Species (1996) (producer)
# Inhumanoid (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Black Rose of Harlem (1996) (executive producer)
# Alien Terminator (1996) (executive producer)
# Alien Avengers (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Bio-Tech Warrior (1996) (executive producer)
# Death Game (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# House of the Damned (1996) (executive producer)
# Humanoids from the Deep (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Ladykiller (1996/I) (producer)
# Last Exit to Earth (1996) (TV)


good info there

Paul Markham 10-30-2005 02:45 AM

A movie can have both and in the most extreme grahic detail.

The problem is selling it to distributors. And here is the reason why.

Porn distributors are fairly conservative guys and lead by lawyers. so here they have a profit that might sell 10,000 copies if it's a great worldwide hit, more likely 5,000 would be the right number.

So they make $2 a copy, which means $,10,000 to $20,000 profit. would you rissk a 1/4 million lawyers bill for the sake of $20,000?

They also have more product than they need, so where is the need to take on a risky product?

Then comes selling it the shops and the same argument applies. The climate in the US is not good for porn at the moment.

Look back to the MaCarthy era and the movies Holleywood produced. Same rules of fear against return apply. Who will be the first one stick is hear above the parapit to get it blown off?

RAM 10-30-2005 02:54 AM

You just need more Violence in your Sex :thumbsup

Wiggles 10-30-2005 04:31 AM

'A History of Violence' had lots of both.

SilentKnight 10-30-2005 09:25 AM

Sex, violence, BDSM & snuff themes all in a mainstream movie (granted, it was shot in Canada):

Check out David Cronenberg's Videodrome

It broke some new ground back in `83. But it was also banned from some theatres and cities.

SilentKnight

v4 media 10-30-2005 09:33 AM

A Clockwork Orange.

Being the adventures of a young man whose principal interests are rape,
ultra-violence and Beethoven

MaxCandy 10-30-2005 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight
Sex, violence, BDSM & snuff themes all in a mainstream movie (granted, it was shot in Canada):

Check out David Cronenberg's Videodrome

It broke some new ground back in `83. But it was also banned from some theatres and cities.

SilentKnight

Great Film!

Elli 10-30-2005 12:39 PM

Well I just watched Caligula last night.

correction, I watched most of it. We paused it after the 20 minute sex scene on the galley with the blowjobs and lesbian action and decided to go practice our own depravity. :)

MaxCandy 10-31-2005 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli
Well I just watched Caligula last night.

correction, I watched most of it. We paused it after the 20 minute sex scene on the galley with the blowjobs and lesbian action and decided to go practice our own depravity. :)

another great film, did you get the truly uncut version?

pissing animals etc? is was out there

MaxCandy 10-31-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media
A Clockwork Orange.

Being the adventures of a young man whose principal interests are rape,
ultra-violence and Beethoven

true, but that was way bent too


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