Alien, how about those Oprano clowns !!!
 

So now we know what the big DOS threat was from Gonzo and Joesho. They begged and begged Nick to give them Oprano, and finally they kissed enough ass and hugged enough trees to convince Nick he should stay home and play video games with his family.

I have visited all the boards. I have never found such losers as Gonzo & his kiss-ass buddy Joesho in charge of a pornboard. Poor Poor Poor Oprano!

and why do you care ??

You hadn't posted in so long I thought you were dead. Unfortunately I was wrong.

why do we care?

Do they own Oprano now?

Maybe I should start a board.

It only mattered when Serge had the place under wraps.

The place never had good backing, Censorship was rampant, the info was biased to the latest sponsor showing thier tits. Overall discussions were always quite boring, off topic, lacking drama, lacking good spam, lacking characters and personalities. Over all it was always way to conservative for my liking akin to cheap small talk over coffee.

Honestly...

Joe needs to drop Gonzo, buy a domain from me and start over with a new property. Better yet forget about openning a board, he needs to harness what he has right now a board is a pure distraction that can possibily short change Earl Miller. Boards generally serve no purpose unless thier is a good viewer ship that keeps perpetual interest.
How GFY does it, has probably been thought through by hundreds, attempted by hundreds and analysed by hundreds of webmasters trying to figure out the drive that GFY does.

Boards are not easy, they are nasty places tough to run, tough to brand, tough to pull all the elements together that great a community with a diverse view points.

Quick summary...

Waste of money if even a penny changed hands, but I hope nick gauged the shit out of em in the price, that would be my Mona Lisa.

(singing)

Send in.... the clowwwnnsss
Send in...... the clowwwnnnnssss

Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear,
I thought that you'd want what I want,
Sorry my dear
But where are the clowns
Send in... the clowns
Don't bother, they're here.

Isn't it rich, isn't it queer
Losing my timing this late in my career
But where are.... the clowns
there ought to be clowns
Well, maybe next year.


:D

Nick, I was never a big poster. You are a follower. You go with the majority. If someone wants an objective point of view, they are advised to stay away from you.

I have watched you enter new boards. You carefully join only those conversations where you can hang with the owners of the boards or losers with big mouths. You have shown your spots thousands of posts ago on Oprano, GFY, and other boards.

Go away. You know that I don't like Gonzo or Joesho. They are gossip mongers. They are whiners. They are backstabbers. They are snitches. They are nobodys with no talent.

The only way they could be Oprano owners is by begging poor Nick to give them Oprano, and they will give him back a percentage of what they *hope* to receive from advertisers.

Gonzo & Joesho are broke losers. They give wine to Serge and tell him what a genius he is when behind his back they laugh about how successful they were in *social engineering* the Russian. They have no respect for themselves. Why would anyone want to know them or do business with them.

Just remember, my fellow webmasters.......YOU WERE WARNED ABOUT THESE SCUMBAGS.

PS: Microchick ya oughtah make GFY yer new home, it is not subject to bias and I have to admit I get alot of business on GFY. Far more than any other adult webmaster community. Sad I have to honestly admit that, but GFY has made a difference for me in relations establishing tons of contacts from all reaches of the net. Thats no fucking joke and is why I am here quite often.

I been here for years, banned more than any other poster perhaps next to AMP.

So that says alot regarding GFY's staff and the man known as Lens.

AND WHY DO YOU CARE WHY I CARE? If I care, it is because I was one of the first webmasters to post on Oprano when Serge opened the doors. It was a non-threaded board. It was a board that was crazy, wild, and fun. Gary Kremen posted there along with Persian Kitty. Stephen Cohen was secretly posting on Oprano. Serge took Oprano and was number one until GFY opened its doors and attracted all the porn kids.

Now what do we have left on Oprano...a bunch of has-beens who are afraid to go against Gonzo & Joesho, so they have sold their souls to Satan.

JFK, you go wherever you must to stir up business. What do you have to offer on boards if someone takes away your damn pictures.

I think I visited Oprano once in 4 years

Nah, GFY happened when NetPond went Conservative after folding Anthony's reign.

GFY was called "The other Place" or "That Board" or even "Word in the board community". AVN and XBIZ used the term quite often but were sure to never really mention GFY openly and to this day get thier news via cut and paste for print for the most part to catch whats the latest buzz.
GFY was the place that everyone denied to get information from, GFY was the bastard child that everyone hated or tried to hate and never mention.

I remember them days which is what attracted me here. I love to be with "underdogs".

Alien, I have a long history with you since the Netpond days. I agree that Lens is a good man. So is Brad Shaw. I tease LAJ and Bob, but YNOT is a good board, though a little too conservative for me.

There are many smaller boards that I like. However, Serge allowed Oprano to go to the hackers and the nobodys. He wanted attention. He is a crazy person on the boards. He allowed his ego to take over, and he sold out when he became more interested in traveling and drinking wine. (His marriage calmed him down. That is a good thing.)

And JFK, why do I care? I really don't give a fuck about Oprano. I just want the world to know what a shitty place it has become. Advertisers should invest their time and money in GFY and the other boards where there are owners who don't cheat and bullshit you.

Serge did what Serge does best.

Sell. Even if the sale is not such a good deal or more than one bargained for Serge was good at it, always has been and most likely for the rest of his life. He is a great hustler, no one could dispute that without looking like an idiot.

But really Its no different than any other business staged to sell. Build it up, make it shine make it gold then bang SOLD!

Hey Lens recently did the same thing, while keeping his hands in the furnace! Now thats a new trick. But at any rate the pattern is always the same in business.

One final note................

Just a couple of days ago, Gonzo and Joesho were on GFY threatening people.

Who wants to deal with board owners who have absolutely no class or morals? These assholes are good at two things.....EATING KRISPY KREME DONUTS AND DRINKING BEER. :thumbsup

and What is it that you do exactly?????

For the record everybody, i whipe my ass with thousand dollar bills.

recognize.

She adds to my ignore list. She seems to hold a grudge because you dare to watermark the pictures she looks at.

Prediction (even though she knows she is on ignore): MicroBitch will make some comment about me being a bum, and selling out by allowing you to watermark the pics I take.

JFK stirs up business? Good for him, sounds like a compliment!

JFK is a member of the adult industry as much as a webmaster or anyone else...Photo history of webmaster events...THAT is what he offers. He is someone who saw a niche, exploited it and became known as the #1 person in that area....what most of us aspire to do!! Others spew venom. IMHO

oh just fucking die already

Alien now that your single again.... do I see a luv connection with you and Confucy?

You know if you didn't add the words "in charge of a" you'd have to include yourself. I won't bother to go farther into attacking you god knows the last thing I want is for you to flip out and add me to your cyber-stalker list.

But I will add, I love your so called "facts" your like the wanna-be clueless version of Luke Ford if there was such a thing, I would love to see proof of anyone begging anyone about shit. but whatever gets you off, and lets you sleep at night I guess.

-Loki-

The only love connection I see is between you and Joe. Serge is getting his 6%, where is mine? You would be flat on your ass in a Georgia snowstorm if it wasn't for me. Where did you get the money for your token down payment for Oprano? Did you borrow it from over-the-hill hackers, or do you plan to sue me in a *fluff* small claims court where people go with no legitimate cases?

Hello Baddog. I don't believe I mentioned your name, but since you are feeling lonely, I will recognize you. Happy New Year, doggy.

What is it you do? Take pictures that are sub-level. Most of your pictures are covered with logo bullshit. The rest are the same people...baddog in every other picture with that dogshit smile with a camera up his nose....strippers in the dark so you can barely see them...no names on any of the pictures.

I prefer pictures taken by Cory and Baddog.

If you want to know what I do, hire a detective like Gonzo and his hacker friends. People I can trust know what I do. The rest of you can go play with your nose hairs.

microchick is still alive heh wasnt she on here when she was praising about luke ranting and ranting.

Fris, babe, just because I'm not a board whore like you doesn't mean I have disappeared. When I rant and rave, it is when I have a score to even. Gonzo is a flake. He turns against innocent people when they are down.

Gonzo, until you apologize for all the terrible things you have said about me and apologize for all the terrible things you have done to me, I will be on your ass. The FBI told me to fight for my rights. I have taken their advice.

And toddler, isn't it time you grew up !! Your oneliners are juvenile and boring.

This thread rocks. :1orglaugh

not as much as your sig photo Nicky boy!

-Loki-

Loki, I don't have stalker lists...I have a plain ole SHIT LIST. Don't we all? It is very short, and you are not on it. :)

Confucia my love, the thing of it is.... the awful truth of it is.....

.. I


... am actually stalking YOU. :D


{{Vincent Price evil laughter sound here}}

{{{echoing}}}

ok thats it, I finaly have spit a drink at my keyboard :(

and I even heard the end of "Thriller" in my head as I read the Price comment

-Loki-

CD, I have noticed that you are posting on Oprano?

Why?

Do you find JR, Sarettah, Dravyk, Vick, Trev, Morgan (lost soul), Gonzo, Joesho, PushPills, and the gang all that interesting? Nick put everybody on the payroll so they would stay on Oprano. Whoops....it was more like Nick gave everyone a TITLE so they would feel important and keep posting on Oprano. Several Oprano users told me they were being paid to post on Oprano.

Since Joesho and Gonzo have no money, how will they convince the Oprano Regulars to remain?

Hell Puppy, I think you are the retard. You take garbage that is going down on GFY, and you take it back to Oprano. Well, we can do the same here.

I know about you, Pup. And you are more like a big sloppy dog like Baddog than a puppy.

Wait until a very evil force enters your life and drags it across the internet. Let's see how you would handle the abuse, the slander, the lies, the libel, the stalking.

Would you hide under a rock like you do on the internet? Or would you strike back like those you call RETARDS???????????????

ok, I got another question for ya, more like an observation rather, why is it whenever you post your talking smack about someone? fuck the whole shitlist thing, it has to go deeper then that, all the posts I see from you are normaly just "attacks" on someone, and litered with liable and or slanderous comments.

When asked what it is you do in the biz you reply "people I trust know what I do" thats such a cop-out groupy responce. There's not realy any type of secret jobs around this biz, there's only so much you can do, why hide it?

and why not just follow the old adage "If you don't have anything nice to say......"

Instead by jumping up and "attacking" people all you do is generate more viewes and exposure to those same people, fuck the people on your shitlist should pay you for the exposure lol, so with that we know your not in the feild of marketing huh? otherwise you would not be doing this all for free. :1orglaugh

if this is too deep for the rest of the readers i'm sorry I just call um like I see um.

-Loki-

I don't take the whole "board shit" thing too seriously Confuce. It's fun to mix it up over there with Pornodoggy sometimes, and the convo on most threads is somewhat different from here at good ol' GFY.... usually. I enjoy reading and posting on Oprano, yes, as well as porncity, JBM, DMPM (Fletch & Cherry's board), GG&J's from time to time, Cozy campus, Xnations and about a half dozen other boards.

But by far the bulk of my posts are made right here.

And yes, it's true I am paid for doing promo and paid well.... and my promotion deal with my current client includes my signatures on all adult wm boards I post on.

But I was posting on all those boards albeit sporadically for quite some time. Did you know I've been a member of Oprano for a long time now? I will continue to visit there, I have no problem with anyone there.

Okay fine I admit it... I went looking for you. :D

Loki, I have been in porn since 1995. I have never advertised my websites, promoted my work, or been a banner whore.

I don't know what you do, and I don't care. If I were interested, I would research you. There are few people who interest me on the boards. Those who do, I contact. If I trust someone who is interested in me, then I open up.

What is so damn wrong about that? You don't know me. You don't know the owners of boards who have invited me to post on their boards. You are a poster just like me.

I love to fight assholes on the boards. I attack those who have attacked me unfairly and have written shit about me without knowing who I am. Porn board posters are lazy. If you are someone who can help them make money, they kiss your ass. You know what I mean. It happens daily. If you are someone who calls them on their bullshit like I do, you are called a c u n t, a stalker, a bitch, and a hundred other names.

I bring out the true personality of losers. I discovered I have this ability, and I take advantage of it. Because I don't need anyone's support or business, I can get away with my rough board personality because your words don't touch me. It is the off the board actions by Gonzo and his backstabbing friends that make me angry.

Loki, would you like your family and friends attacked just because you were arguing with a porn board idiot? Well, it happened to me. I fought back. Gonzo was one of the main instigators. As I said earlier, I will fight this scumbag until he gets off his fat ass and apologizes.

End of story.

Myself since 92-93 and from time to time I HAVE been a whore :thumbsup

Did I say there was anything wrong with what you did? I simply asked why it was the damn near every post you make is an 'attack' on these people on your 'shitlist' when in all reality it gives them more attention, thus helping them, when I have beef with someone I RARELY make it public as it only leads to them getting more attention, I feel thats common fucking sence, also you say you don't know what I do, nor have you researched me, so I wouldn't be so quick to throw in the ever so popular and overused "you don't know the owners of the boards...." I do in fact know quite a few owners & managers of boards, but I'm not a name dropper, don't care, never did never will

through all my years in this biz, on and offline as well as the 'real world' very FEW ppl just go around attacking people for no reason, but I guess it's just quicker and more simple to say I only fuck with peple who fuck with me first, we both know it takes two to tango, and 9 times out of 10 both parties are just as guilty when blame should be handed out to who started what.

even though Christmas has passed I think I'll get you a cape to wear, as you make this sound like some special super power or a bragging right, with just the words you used above, your proud of the fact that you can push people's buttons, or that your special cause you can do that? come on, EVERY SINGLE PERSON if they do a bit of reading or thinking could do the same damn thing, it's not a gift from ________ <--- insert diety of choice

All speculation, just like 90% of the bullshit on all the boards, he said she said, and all the sheep take sides, prob I see, is your side is pretty damn miniscule and sometimes non exsistant, but hell ok, whatever helps ya sleep at night or hit the post button with no regrets, if most of the stuff that has happened to you happened indeed, people would have gotten repremanded for it, and you would not just be seeking a friggan apology.

end of story.

-Loki-

Loki, there are always two sides or more. My story didn't start on porn boards, it began on x-rated ham radio. It started with renegade radio...then hacking...then ended up on porn boards.

I just wanted to learn and have fun. When you are a female in a man's world, it all comes down to sex and control and macho crap.

I was not bragging. There are many things I can't do, but I am a writer. Words are my friends. That is why I relate to Luke Ford. Off the boards I am quiet. I don't like to fight with people. On the boards I feel strong because I know I am a good person and I feel like I am a SuperWoman. When Serge told me that I was second only to him when it came to fighting on the boards, I took his comment as a special compliment. He was one of my teachers. So if you want to argue with someone for helping create a Confucy Monster, then jump on Serge.

Loki, you are right about one thing.....as Serge was responsible for helping create the Confucy Monster, I am responsible for creating Gonzo The Loser. Without my help, Gonzo would still be a rabbit fur nobody....not that he is a somebody now, but he has become an Oprano board owner because of me.

All I ask is that you keep my family's private information off the boards and the internet. I don't care what you say about me. Certain lines are not to be crossed. Gonzo crossed those lines, and continues to do so. That is why I dislike him so much. He has a brain that doesn't click in and tell him he has gone too far.

Here we go again. Loki, this is what I have been getting for years. Gonzo and his hacking friends hired a stooge with a camera in his sunglasses to pose as a person looking for a vacant apartment. This person was sent to a place that has been in my family for years. The phony apt searcher entered my family's home with a video camera and asked stupid questions.

Gonzo then took the video and passes it off as me. If he wanted to meet me, why didn't he get off his fat donut ass and come to California. No, he hires flunky's to do his dirty work. He stalks and scares my family in California and Indiana, and then you ask why I am so pissed. The only way the abuse will stop is if I tell my attorney to sue him. The FBI called me. I didn't call them. They said that they have a record on certain individuals who are harassing me. All I have to do is set the stage in motion.

Your 15 minutes of harassing and stalking fame is up, Gonzo.

Geez, does the whole freaking world know I need glasses?

Cripes!

I'm not bumping into walls or furniture or anything, but the tiny printing in the phone book, for example, sometimes gives me a problem. That's all. SHEESH!

Confuce has a confuceluscious voice. :D

*sighs*

the good ole days...

=)

I always enjoy that.

thanks :thumbsup

Whoever we work with from Oprano in the past is just about the nicest person I've ever dealt with. :2 cents:

First up i'm sorry but I fell asleep lol, now that I cleared that up here we grow again...

Yes indeed there are at least two sides to every story, except the Bible thats like a choose your own adventure book lol

since I have seen you on boards I have seen nothing but the same story from you about Gonzo, and on the other side I have seen the same story from Gonzo about you. that about clears it up now right? you say he is "________" and that he did "_________" and he says your "_______________" and "_____________"

Then we have a shitload of people from his camp men and women and some I think are both lol who back his side but you seem to stand alone as the lone nutbag or whatever. so yeah for years wev'e all heard both sides of the story and were just as bored as we have always been, Only difference is with me NOW I choose to just speak my mind (new years resolution lol)

I didn't bother to quote your entire post but there was one more thing that struck me as you playing the poor sad victim card "a women in a man's world"

I'm so sick and tired of hearing this shit, especially in this exact industry, in the adult industry it is the women who make the money, set the bars, and without them there would not be the industry that we have today, and their are plenty of women that run their entire org. and make all the top bucks, now I'm not blind in the least that there is a vast majority of women that ge ttaken advantage of but honestly that has nothing to do with you, only weak minded non educated people fall into that role and if that's you then I call just deserts.....mmmmmm.desert.....donuts......hot light.....errr where was I

Everytime someone is backed into a corner it seems to me they "TRY" and pull a card, some yell racisim, others sexisim, some blame gov, some blame their parents, funny enough no one jumps up and says "Dammit I'm a fucking moron" instead they just like you blame everyone else BUT YOURSELF.

I highly doubt you will ever get reperations from anyone you feel needs to be on your shitlist, cause all I have seen is a case of "He said She Said" it's the internet, don't like it stay off it, I know it's hard to look at all these words on your screen and NOT respond, but honestly it takes a much bigger person to just shut up and walk away then to quickly hit the reply button and get all worked up ovr juvinial bullshit.

(Almost Done), when it comes to personal information, we all know the risk when we started the game, and if not we need our heads checked, The net was created to be a tool of global information, meaning you could literaly find ANYTHING if you looked hard enough, and in some cases just a quick whois query. there's risk involved with everything in life some greater then others, you claim harrasment, yet your still sitting here stirring the shit, you can't be "too scared" of these "big bad hackers" as you call them or your just too stupid or better yet, your just delusional and it never happened.

(Finaly) As for "I made Gonzo" as you said I hav enot laughed that hard since a few weeks ago when someone tried and tell me the same thing about myself, even though I was doing the same thing 5 years before meeting that person and made alot more money at the same time, Unless you are Gonzo's mother or god lol, you did not MAKE HIM, truth be told none of us are that good to make another person if you stop and think about it, fuck, you can barley handle yourself online from what I can see, just attacking other people and claiming such wrong doings done to you, if thats what it means to be a somebody I'm happy being just Loki.

Take the chip off your shoulder, it's not anyone here's fault your where your at today, you make your own choices in life and if you honestly felt wronged by all these people that attack you AND you had a brain in your head you do what ADULTS DO, handle it with law, and not just bitching on a message board.

Thats what gets me the most about this industry, all these fucking keyboard warriors that would rather hide behind a monitor then face someone in the real world, and once they piss off enough people and something does happen they just keep bitching or claim fake drama to get sympathy.

-Loki- (Spelling errors left in for ammo for the kids)

Does it really matter ?

seems like it huh?

you gotta wonder with all the effort she puts into trying to get an apology would she have any time to actualy get work done??? theres no money in apologiez as far as I know, but I guess Ego's come before paying bills now days.

-Loki-