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XJ Man 12-29-2005 07:35 AM

Mirko "Cro Cop" the best MMA fighter [videos]
 
I really don't see him ever losing another fight. He is seriously in his own league.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9313&q=cro+cop
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2751&q=cro+cop

The most devastating kicks I've ever seen.

penzo 12-29-2005 07:37 AM

you're damn right he is the best!!

XJ Man 12-29-2005 08:43 AM

He has a new fight on the 1st. I'll be ordering it on PPV. Wanderlei Silva will be fighting too

dunefield 12-29-2005 08:50 AM

You mean Fedor is the best MMA fighter...

QuaWee 12-29-2005 09:08 AM

he's the best fighter in his weight class.

Watch some Genki Sudo and Gomi fights and let me know what you think :-)

Screaming 12-29-2005 09:18 AM

those kicks, jesus. that guy would kick your head off.

XJ Man 12-29-2005 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaWee
he's the best fighter in his weight class.

Watch some Genki Sudo and Gomi fights and let me know what you think :-)

Very true. I've seen a few sudo and gomi fights, I like both of them too. I think Diego Sanchez from the Ultimate Fighter season 1 has the potential to be a top contender in his weight class, especially after the beating he put on Nick Diaz

Bman 12-29-2005 11:58 AM

I have always been a huge boxing fan, but lately after watching Pride and Ultimate I really like this stuff. These guys are awesome. Mirko is lethal with his legs. Shit!

Martin3 12-29-2005 12:13 PM

He's not the best, but still pretty damn good.

Got to get by this guy if you want to be the best HW :winkwink:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...157667&q=fedor
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...324545&q=fedor
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...023472&q=fedor

xNetworx 12-29-2005 12:25 PM

best kicks :thumbsup

DirtyRider 12-29-2005 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunefield
You mean Fedor is the best MMA fighter...

I agree with that, mirko still needs to work a bit more on his ground but he has the most amazing kick i've ever seen.

XJ Man 12-29-2005 01:24 PM

Do you think UFC should allow knees and kicks to the head while they're down on the groud like Pride does?

XJ Man 12-29-2005 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin3
He's not the best, but still pretty damn good.

Got to get by this guy if you want to be the best HW :winkwink:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...157667&q=fedor
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...324545&q=fedor
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...023472&q=fedor


Wow the slam in the 3rd video should of broke Fedor's neck. I've seen that fight before and in slow motion the slam is sick nasty.

Temp1 12-29-2005 02:03 PM

Arlovski vs. Fedor would be a good one

dunefield 12-29-2005 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJ Man
Do you think UFC should allow knees and kicks to the head while they're down on the groud like Pride does?

yes... and remove elbows to the face...

XJ Man 12-29-2005 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Temp1
Arlovski vs. Fedor would be a good one

Arlovski has to be the smartest fighter I've ever seen. I love the fangs

Ramos 12-29-2005 02:14 PM

Damn Damn Damn Damn

pornguy 12-29-2005 02:15 PM

that is one of the things that cracks me up about these fights. they wont let them fight out of the class.

I have worked out with some guys less than half his size, that would drop him in under 30 seconds.

dunefield 12-29-2005 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy
that is one of the things that cracks me up about these fights. they wont let them fight out of the class.

I have worked out with some guys less than half his size, that would drop him in under 30 seconds.

what about sakuraba... he's fought heavyweights...

Translation 12-29-2005 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJ Man
I really don't see him ever losing another fight.

LMAO if you believe that you truly know nothing about fighting. he'll have MANY more losses on his record before his fighting days are over.

dunefield 12-29-2005 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Translation
LMAO if you believe that you truly know nothing about fighting. he'll have MANY more losses on his record before his fighting days are over.

agreed... crocop really needs a break... his last 2 fights have been really disappointing... if it wasn't for the 2 takedowns and those solid hits in the 3'rd round i think barnett would've won the fight...

hopefully next year he'll take some time off...

dig420 12-29-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy
that is one of the things that cracks me up about these fights. they wont let them fight out of the class.

I have worked out with some guys less than half his size, that would drop him in under 30 seconds.

that would drop crocop? Less than half his size?

I've worked out with Gracies, and I can't say that. Who is this super deluxe superman you're talking about?

dig420 12-29-2005 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy
that is one of the things that cracks me up about these fights. they wont let them fight out of the class.

I have worked out with some guys less than half his size, that would drop him in under 30 seconds.

this guy must be the toughest guy in the world. by a factor of 10. I'm really curious who it is, I want to pay for all his training and have him take on Fedor, Crocop and Rodrigo Nogeira all at the same time. Especially if he's only 110 lbs and can drop Cro in under 30 seconds, WOW what a guy!!

He must be bulletproof and firebreathing huh?

and you know more than one? GUYS as in plural? WOWOWOW! Where do you train? Krypton?

WarChild 12-29-2005 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy
that is one of the things that cracks me up about these fights. they wont let them fight out of the class.

Every serious sanctioned fighting incorporates weight classes. The UFC originally did not, but changing to a class based system was part of the required changes to legitimize MMA fighting.

You can't change the laws of physics and you don't know any magicians that can. Size and strength are always a factor. They might not be as important as training and skill, but it certainly factors in. A 200 pound man will always beat an equally trained 100 pound man. That's just the way it goes.

Quote:

I have worked out with some guys less than half his size, that would drop him in under 30 seconds.
Bullshit.

XJ Man 12-29-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dunefield
what about sakuraba... he's fought heavyweights...

He's too old and out of his prime. Was fun watching the two handed head clamp

sweetME 12-29-2005 03:33 PM

Wow...very handsome too, I think

johnnyhey 12-29-2005 04:35 PM

how do i capture these to my HD?

com 12-29-2005 04:36 PM

he's definately one of my favorites

dunefield 12-29-2005 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XJ Man
He's too old and out of his prime. Was fun watching the two handed head clamp

no i used sakuraba as an example of a middleweight fighting heavyweights...

but i agree with what the others said... weight makes a huge difference... do you really think someone like bj penn or gomi can take on crocop? NO CHANCE!!!

dunefield 12-29-2005 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
this guy must be the toughest guy in the world. by a factor of 10. I'm really curious who it is, I want to pay for all his training and have him take on Fedor, Crocop and Rodrigo Nogeira all at the same time. Especially if he's only 110 lbs and can drop Cro in under 30 seconds, WOW what a guy!!

He must be bulletproof and firebreathing huh?

and you know more than one? GUYS as in plural? WOWOWOW! Where do you train? Krypton?

looks like they need an agent move to japan and rake in the $$$ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Martin3 12-29-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJ Man
Do you think UFC should allow knees and kicks to the head while they're down on the groud like Pride does?


No, they don't allow them in the UFC because of the cage. If you get your head pinned against the cage and some one knees/kicks you in the head it can be pretty brutal.

In the ring your head has somewhere to go(outside the ropes), they also restart in the center of the ring when they're on the ground against the ropes, not true with the cage and UFC.

Martin3 12-29-2005 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy
that is one of the things that cracks me up about these fights. they wont let them fight out of the class.

I have worked out with some guys less than half his size, that would drop him in under 30 seconds.

100% pure bullshit :321GFY

2 equally trained guys = bigger guy wins everytime

Only time size doesn't matter is when there's no skill involved

Anthony 12-29-2005 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJ Man
I really don't see him ever losing another fight. He is seriously in his own league.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9313&q=cro+cop
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2751&q=cro+cop

The most devastating kicks I've ever seen.

I guess you missed his fight with Fedor where he got his ass handed to him?

FelixFlow 12-29-2005 09:22 PM

how the hell is he the best, when Fedor kicked his ass ??


Fedor = the baddest mofo in MMA


:winkwink:

DirtyRider 12-29-2005 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XJ Man
Do you think UFC should allow knees and kicks to the head while they're down on the groud like Pride does?

I don't think its up to them, I think its the state that they are hosting the fights.

DirtyRider 12-29-2005 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild
You can't change the laws of physics and you don't know any magicians that can. Size and strength are always a factor. They might not be as important as training and skill, but it certainly factors in. A 200 pound man will always beat an equally trained 100 pound man. That's just the way it goes.

Always is a bit too much man. The bigger fighter has more of an advantage, but fights always have a chance of going either way.

Anthony 12-29-2005 09:42 PM

In BJJ, we have an unwritten law.

For every 20lbs you have on someone, they must have a belt level to counteract.

Anyone who thinks size and strength doesn't matter on equally trained individuals have never been in a real fight.

Alvaro 12-29-2005 09:54 PM

minotauro kicked his ass twice

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...47&q=minotauro

Vitasoy 12-29-2005 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunefield
You mean Fedor is the best MMA fighter...

Yep he already beat him.. and what a great fight it was :thumbsup

Vitasoy 12-29-2005 11:42 PM

Speaking of MMA... Any MMA fan should watch the up coming PrideFC card "SHOCKWAVE 2005" 3 belts on the line.. the Gomi vs Sakurai is going to kick ass!


on January the 1st!

Vitasoy 12-29-2005 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvaro

Once you mean and I would call it "kicked his ass" when he was saved by the bell in round 1... but fedor kick minotauro ass twice... literally. :winkwink:

dunefield 12-30-2005 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
In BJJ, we have an unwritten law.

For every 20lbs you have on someone, they must have a belt level to counteract.

Anyone who thinks size and strength doesn't matter on equally trained individuals have never been in a real fight.

Maybe 10 years ago... But MMA has moved on... Strikers nowadays know how to deal with ground fighters... I love how people have this idea that BJJ is unbeatable...

dunefield 12-30-2005 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvaro

If you ask me Crocop kicked his arse in that fight... Minotauro was great in submitting him...

XJ Man 12-30-2005 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitasoy
Speaking of MMA... Any MMA fan should watch the up coming PrideFC card "SHOCKWAVE 2005" 3 belts on the line.. the Gomi vs Sakurai is going to kick ass!


on January the 1st!

Can't wait for it, sooooo many good fights. :thumbsup

dig420 12-30-2005 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunefield
Maybe 10 years ago... But MMA has moved on... Strikers nowadays know how to deal with ground fighters... I love how people have this idea that BJJ is unbeatable...

Getting stood back up if there's no submission in 30 seconds makes it a little easier for them to deal with groundfighters I think.... but yes, strikers are all smart enough to train on the ground enough to deal with being on the ground now, at least long enough to get stood back up by the ref. Cro is extremely difficult to get down, so is Chuck Liddell.

:2 cents:

Brian 12-30-2005 01:45 PM

This upcoming Pride will be a killer event!

TheDoc 12-30-2005 02:07 PM

Some of the middle weight, even lighter weights could beat the bigger guys. Maybe not dominate them, but they would damn sure win. Weight & size do make a difference, but when both are skilled it?s going to depend on who gets whom first. Even though the big guys have superior power, they flat don?t have the speed or agility of the smaller guys, making them just as badass.

Not all world top ranked fighters are the size of a house.

Military boxing, shoot fighting, etc, often mix weight classes. Small Military Bases go head to head, they may not be able to make all the weight classes, so they mix it up. Schools sometimes do the same thing. Quite often the lower weight class guys would beat much larger guys. They are trained, maybe not the level of WFC fighters, but trained enough to represent the USMC. Big guys, with skill, can and have been put down by much smaller guys.

The largest asset of the guys, besides being trained, is the frame of mind they are in while fighting. Hence why size isn?t that big of a deal. Clear mind, full attack mode but under control, with adrenalin under control, allows you to attack and defend properly. As soon as that concentration is broken, from a punch, kick, or whatever else, normally that is when the fight will end.

Anthony 12-30-2005 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunefield
Maybe 10 years ago... But MMA has moved on... Strikers nowadays know how to deal with ground fighters... I love how people have this idea that BJJ is unbeatable...

I used BJJ as an example, but it is good rule to follow in any fight, whether MMA, Boxing, Muay Thai, etc.

If experience and training is even, and the same, the bigger, stronger figter will always win.

Anthony 12-30-2005 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunefield
Maybe 10 years ago... But MMA has moved on... Strikers nowadays know how to deal with ground fighters... I love how people have this idea that BJJ is unbeatable...

BJJ groundgame was unbeatable. That's why Cro Cop has a BJJ coach, Wanderlai Silva got a BJJ Black Belt, Couture learned it after gettng subbed by Enson, Liddell is a purple, and the list goes on and on.

Not all strikers know how to deal with the ground game, That's why it's called MIXED Martial Arts. MMA fighters have a rounded game, stikers get their asses handed to them.

Doctor Dre 12-30-2005 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bman
I have always been a huge boxing fan, but lately after watching Pride and Ultimate I really like this stuff. These guys are awesome. Mirko is lethal with his legs. Shit!

Yeppers it's totally different and way more exciting.


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