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RedShoe 01-23-2006 09:25 PM

Pro-Life
 
I just read on Yahoo news that Bush phoned some pro-lifers and congratulated them on their cause. He said that they would prevail.

As an adult webmaster I'm usually very consumed by my work and honestly I try not to get involved with politics. It just seems like a lot of bullshit to begin with. the right says this, the left says that and 'round and 'round we go.

I can see why the current gov't want$ to keep the baby alive, and that would be $o they can tax it later in life. Or $end it off to war.


But what I want to know is this, are condoms and other forms of birth control also considered killing by the extreme pro-lifers? Are you stopping the miracle of life? A process has begun and you prematurely terminated it. I don't know all the rules and guidelines of a pro-lifer and I want to learn. At what point does life begin? Is sex ONLY for procreation? If you have sex and stop the process of life, are you a murderer?

tony286 01-23-2006 09:26 PM

The funny thing is all these prolifers and over 160,000 children sit in foster care.

RedShoe 01-23-2006 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
The funny thing is all these prolifers and over 160,000 children sit in foster care.


Yeah, I guess that's funny.

RedShoe 01-23-2006 09:39 PM

How do pro-lifers feel about the death penalty?

tony286 01-23-2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe
How do pro-lifers feel about the death penalty?

They are pro death penalty , no welfare, no wick. They only care about the fetus once its born their attitude is fuckem. killing abortion doctors and staff is also ok.

jscott 01-23-2006 09:45 PM

anyone who is a pro-lifer that actually goes to abortion clinics to talk shit to customers going to the clinic needs to get a fucking life!



a friend (girl) of mine asked me to go with her once to get abortion, i NEVER fucked her in my life, i went with her as a friend, all the fucking ppl were talking shit so i talked shit back told them to shut the fuck up and smiled while giving them the finger, they ran at me the police had to stop them.........thought it was funny tho, only reason they were yelling at me is because they thought i was the guy going with his girlfriend to get his girlfriend an abortion

baddog 01-23-2006 09:54 PM

it is right-to-life and pro-choice

everyone is pro-life

stickyfingerz 01-23-2006 10:00 PM

I better not get in this convo. :Oh crap Sorry anyone that kills their own child... Grr its called responsiblity folks. Use protection, or dont stick your cock in a woman. Am I pro death penalty? If its an unquestionable murder. Absolutley. Cant believe some of you cant get the fact that a unborn baby is the most innocent of the innocent. A murderer had his or her chance, and they blew it. They are the least innocent. Regardless of religion that is my view on it. Doesnt matter if there is or isnt a God, those are the facts. Those who have children probably look at it differently from someone who doesnt.

je_rome 01-23-2006 11:18 PM

I am strongly against abortion, I mean a mistake cannot be corrected by another mistake. we should be responsible for the consequences of our actions and not choose the easy way out.

Mikey_219Inc 01-23-2006 11:21 PM

i listened to bush's speech and left the channel on to listen to these whack jobs for entertainment ... these people are fucking nuts

i wish i had a RPG and could launch aborted fetuses at the podium

bottom line - peope will always smoke pot, no matter how many laws you wanna make.

people will always pay hookers, no matter how many hookers you arrest

people will always have abortions, whether it is right or wrong, or safe or in an alley with a coat hanger.

i am not a woman, and i dont think its any of my god damn business, and i CERTAINLY dont think its bush's business that fucking religious whacko ...

but this shit will never end ... just sit back and enjoy the entertainment :2 cents:

RedShoe 01-23-2006 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
I better not get in this convo. :Oh crap Sorry anyone that kills their own child... Grr its called responsiblity folks. Use protection, or dont stick your cock in a woman. Am I pro death penalty? If its an unquestionable murder. Absolutley. Cant believe some of you cant get the fact that a unborn baby is the most innocent of the innocent. A murderer had his or her chance, and they blew it. They are the least innocent. Regardless of religion that is my view on it. Doesnt matter if there is or isnt a God, those are the facts. Those who have children probably look at it differently from someone who doesnt.

I have kids. 2 of them in fact. And I'm pro-choice as baddog pointed out. I thought I was pro-abortion, but I was mistaken.

So then the only way a woman gets knocked up is unprotected sex? I guess rape and date rape don't count. I guess when your 16 year old daughter gets knocked up, sparing her a life of raising a child when she is just a child is out of the question. I guess it's better to "teach her a lesson" than to abort it and give her a second chance. Ever get a girl pregnant and think about your entire life and realize you will never make it in life with a kid at such a young age? That shit hits home.

Innocense has nothing to do with it. In a moment of desperation, a mouse will eat her young to survive instinctively knowing that the protien will build her strength to have babies later. Is it so different to abort a fetus in order to establish a more solid foundation for a child later in life?

Is it ok to abort one that will be born into poverty if you get your shit together and have one when you are financially set? Is that like making up for it?

Kassidy 01-24-2006 12:36 AM

Not only is your president opposed to abortion rights, he'll only fund sex education programs that promote abstinence as the only way to prevent std's and unwanted pregnancies. It is a proven fact that 'abstinence only' as a sex ed policy doesn't work. Teenagers are gonna have sex and he's doing nothing to educate and prepare them to practice safe methods. Sad.

stev0 01-24-2006 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by je_rome
I am strongly against abortion, I mean a mistake cannot be corrected by another mistake. we should be responsible for the consequences of our actions and not choose the easy way out.

That's a fine position... then don't have abortions. But you have no right to make that decision for other people.

Odin 01-24-2006 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404
The funny thing is all these prolifers and over 160,000 children sit in foster care.

And if idealistic idiots didn't run the foster care agencies that wouldn't be the case. I am not pro-life really, don't have much thought on the issue, but I do know the reason so many children don't get adopted is because they make it impossible for decent honest people to do so. All these idiot left-wing nutbags with no kids of their own infest these places and expect too much of people thinking of adopting, and they have ridiculous measures that give foster parents zero power after they adopt.

Martin3 01-24-2006 01:47 AM

To many of you people look at everything in black and white.

Not everyone for pro-choice is a left wing pussy as not every pro-lifer is a right wing religious wacko

The death penalty comparison is a weakest argument you could make, that is unless you value the life of a murder the same as a child. Anyone who thinks that is a valid comparison should have their nuts remove to prevent their genes from ever spreading.

I'm 100% against aborations done out of convenience(rape and incest are a different matter), It's not something I could do if I was a women. And if a girl I was with got pregnant and wanted an aboration I'd do every thing I could to talk her out of it and even care for the child on my own after birth if neccary.
People have to learn to take responsibility for their actions.

All that said I also don't beleive there should be any laws to ban it. But laws that allow minors to get abortion without parental concent are just plain wrong.

We need to clean up the adoption process, as mentioned above it's a complete train wreck. The only way we'll ever lower the number of abortions is to give people better options.


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