Google Problems
 

(i put this in the q and a but thought it better here for more reads)

Ive a (well a few) doms that got hit from Nov 2003 onwards by Google.

A bit of background - all were doing extremely well in the serps.
Interlinked domains (not 100% but general reciprocal and some oneway) with (unfortunately pretty much identical anchor text) and also all linking to page x for example was done FROM a page which was about the same target keyword as page x.

So a "gay fuck" page would link to another "gay fuck" page.

Around that time (nov 03) - and for the following months, my pages dropped site by site into oblivion over a few more "dances" as they were known then.

So starting with around 40 domains all in the top 5 for their words, by the end of Nov 03 there were only 30, then by say march 04 there were only 20, then by then end of 04 - I had no domains left in the top 1000 results from this group.

No sites doing interlinking were on the same IP.
All sites are affiliate sites
No sites have gone to PR0
All sites are still indexed

Does this sound familiar to anyone - maybe happened to them too more recently or around the same time?

If so - anyone know a fucking fix for this - as its pissed me off trying to sort it out.

Thing is they do well in MSN and unless I can find a guaranteed solution for the google problem and get them back, Im worried about changing them as Ill lose MSN too.

It is a grim situation.
:Oh crap

Thats what you get for spamming search results.

I don't think you are in any position to complain.

Best way to optimize your site is to create a lot of unique content and do real (non-spamy) link exchanges.

No - these sites are hand written, good sponsor content (pics stories etc).
6 or 7 links - max about 20 inbounds to a site.

My SE spam (autogenned crap) is what I was forced to do when google dropped the good hand written review type sites.

So basically - errrr - Lord Prick - Fuck off.

You said yourself that you used interlinking of your own sites to manipulate search positions. Thats spamming.

Your sites triggered google filters - that means you were doing something wrong.

Lord nelson - if you think giving a few links to your own sites to give them a helping hand is spamming - then 99% of the internet is spam.

I need help/advice - not some stupid comment like that.

Yes - I have mass spammed and been bad - true - but these site arent spam.

When you spam 30,000 guestbooks with your links - thats closer to spam in my eyes.

A few links - thats not spam.

Then you shouldn't have any problems, eh? http://www.gfy.com/images/icons/1bluewinky.gif

Instead of trying to fool google, just create content rich, whitehat sites and do legit link trades.

The set of sites Im referring to at the start are " content rich, whitehat sites".

The spam sites are totally separate and came after the first lot were "punished"

"Fool Google" - Im not.

Anyways - dont post any more on this thread youre boring me to tears.

Post examples of your urls then.

Tut yawn

PS - Help anyone?

Id put this on an SEO forum and not bore you with it - but they dont like adult sites.

i had the same thing with one of my blogs - it was on its peak on #2 in google, now its on page 30/40... i chaged the page a lil and stuff, it has alot of content and text, but still its on page 30/40... i dont understand it either.

Okay, I have a similar problem but more recent. I have various "mainstream" sites that in November were de-indexed in Google but not "de-listed" ie. if you google "domain.com" it is there, but all the listings are gone.

Yahoo kept them and so did MSN.

Was getting many hits from google.com and many international versions of google and boom gone!

Any ideas anyone and yes I'll post domain names, here is one of them http://www.CollectorStamps.com

Have you tried asking MrChips? :winkwink:

The only problem I remember around that time was some directory splitting errors Google had in their algo that caused the same thing to happen to a few of mine - basically it had to do with writing sites with relative links instead of absolute links. If you had "vanity domains" like the .net and .org that were mirroring the main site, then Googles algo would split the pages between the domains which of course resulted in dupe penalties and loss of backlinks to the main site. They have cleaned up the code a little in the algo to try to prevent that, but until they finish the testing on the scraper prevention code they are working into the algo now, I wont know the full effect of the other fix. Hope that helps - if not - give me a yell on icq 1276570340 - always shows me offline but I hide back here :)

i feel your pain :(

Thanks, and yes I do have a few .org and .net domains mirrors of the .com not many but a few. Which in the end do link to the originals. Question is once you get a "dupe" penalty, how do you get rid of it??? Thanks

bump for more discussion

Google algorithms are in the midst of massive changes right now, wait until the "Big Daddy" is built and you will see some stabalization of SERPs.

Yeah - i'd like to carry this on for more info gathering/sharing too. Just its saturday and im having the day off more or less.

Interesting post from splum there - could you clarify specifically any detail regarding "Massive Changes" and what is meant by "Big Daddy".

Do you think these changes could bring back demoted sites from Nov 03 when all the shit hit the fan?

You probably just need to buy more shares of Google stock.