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V_RocKs 01-30-2006 12:23 PM

X-Realm are they legal? CCBILL can you help me out?
 
I was trolling for new girls and came across www.X-Realm.com.

Here is there site list:
http://www.x-realm.com/list/

The girls all look young and non of their bios state their ages. They all are supposedly in high school and looking forward to college... sure...

CCBILL does the billing so I am figuring you know if they are indeed over 18?

They have this 2257 link in the affiliate area:
http://www.x-realm.com/compliance/index.htm

But nothing on their websites or galleries.

They state:
We are 100% non nude and in full compliance with the new 2257 code!

But they are NOT 100% nonnude and plenty of the girls have nude tours...

They don't answer their contact form either...

Anyone from X-Realm or CCBILL want to chime in?

corvette 01-30-2006 12:25 PM

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Screaming 01-30-2006 12:29 PM

Honestly.. Does it effect your bottom line?

AZNNC 01-30-2006 01:17 PM

Here are my stats when I use to use them.
32,621 clicks.
1:16310
3 rebills
total profit $49.85


RUN!!!!!!

rowan 01-30-2006 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZNNC
Here are my stats when I use to use them.
32,621 clicks.
1:16310
3 rebills
total profit $49.85


RUN!!!!!!

Are you using their hosted gals? They link via refer.ccbill so it counts gallery loads, not sponsor clicks. 32,621 gallery loads might be something like 300-900 sponsor clicks, so 2 sales out of that is pretty decent...

Speaking of their gals, I've never seen FHGs with a single image that includes all of the thumbs, promotional text and graphics. I guess it saves them on bw but I bet surfers find it frustrating.

Here's an example

http://www.lilsuzy.net/hosted/suzy1/

rowan 01-31-2006 10:22 PM

bump8char

AZNNC 01-31-2006 10:25 PM

rowan: yea they count ccbill clicks stupid, eitherway they were on my site like 2-3 months. Ive never had a sponsor perform that bad.

jscott 01-31-2006 10:38 PM

yea i've always wondered about x-realm, some girls look too young, some are really hot tho, guess i dont care to promote them too much since the webmaster doesnt answer my emails

V_RocKs 02-01-2006 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZNNC
rowan: yea they count ccbill clicks stupid, eitherway they were on my site like 2-3 months. Ive never had a sponsor perform that bad.

Unfortunately when a sponsor does it this way (like ATK does also) it makes your conversions look like 1:8000 or even 1:25000 when in reality it could be 1:800 or 1:1400 which would be considered acceptable for a TGP.

rowan 02-01-2006 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZNNC
rowan: yea they count ccbill clicks stupid, eitherway they were on my site like 2-3 months. Ive never had a sponsor perform that bad.

That was my whole point, if they're counting gal clicks rather than sponsor clicks then that conversion rate may actually be half decent.

32621 gallery loads
assume 3% CTR = 978 sponsor clicks (tour load)
2 sales = 1:489

Given that their hosted gals are horrible ;) the CTR could actually be worse and the conversions better... either way it looks pretty good to me, the problem is that you're not sending enough traffic to the gals.


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