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Tempest 03-13-2006 08:14 PM

Work-at-home mother pleads guilty to massive porn spamming
 
Work-at-home mother pleads guilty to massive porn spamming
13 March 2006 09:12 AEST

A work-at-home mother pleaded guilty this week in a US federal court to sending millions of spams hyping Internet porn sites, prosecutors have said.

Jennifer Clason, 33, of Raymond, N.H., was part of a spam gang that sent mass quantities of messages containing pornographic images, said officials from the Department of Justice. She admitted conspiring with two others, Jeffrey Kilbride, 39, of Venice, Calif., and James Schaffer, 39, of Paradise Valley, Ariz., in sending the messages, which advertised various Internet porn sites.

Clason, who pleaded guilty to two counts of violating the federal CAN-SPAM Act and to one count of criminal conspiracy, will forfeit her ill-gotten gains under the agreement she struck with authorities. She also faces a maximum of 15 years in prison.

Two other members of the gang, Andrew Ellifson, 31, of Scottsdale, Ariz., and Kirk Rogers, 43, of Manhattan Beach, Calif., have already pleaded guilty to charges under the CAN-SPAM Act.

Clason now runs a Web site for work-at-home moms, MommyJobs.com, which was not part of the investigation. According to anti-spam advocate Brian McWilliams, MommyJobs.com -- which bills itself as "a support site for other work at home mothers and others who wish to quit their jobs to be home" -- contains no pitches to join Clason's affiliate program for porn spammers (PhatBucks.com), nor to visit her porn "thumbnail" site (Galleriesblog.com) or her porn content search site (Contentshopper.com).

While MommyJobs.com lacks direct porn connections, it does advertise get-rich-quick schemes on its forums, including "auto-surf" sites. Recently, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) shut down a major auto-surf site, and charged its owner with operating a Ponzi scheme to dupe investors.

Clason came clean on the MommyJobs.com message forum in a long letter to her site visitors, but claimed she was victimised by a man who convinced her that spamming wasn't illegal. Recently, she said, she left the spamming business.

"Apparently this guy that I had trusted for five years had lied to me," she wrote. "Not only was his spam operation illegal, but he was also doing other shady stuff that I had no knowledge of like money laundering!!"

http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.a...&src=site-marq

polish_aristocrat 03-13-2006 08:18 PM

hm....a GFY poster?

EdgeXXX 03-13-2006 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
hm....a GFY poster?


I believe so.

Tempest 03-13-2006 08:19 PM

Yes, JenC.. At least I believe so as her email was jennifer at phatbucks

~Ray 03-13-2006 08:19 PM

That's JenC

Sly 03-13-2006 08:21 PM

Yeh, a couple of those people have posted here and are well known. I thought she was only into content production and the affiliate program, didn't know she spammed.

Tempest 03-13-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly
Yeh, a couple of those people have posted here and are well known. I thought she was only into content production and the affiliate program, didn't know she spammed.

Who are the other ones?

selena 03-13-2006 08:23 PM

Interesting read. I remember reading threads about it when the charges first came out.

SmokeyTheBear 03-13-2006 08:25 PM

ouch , not good for phatbucks :)

European Lee 03-13-2006 08:29 PM

Remind us again...

Who was JenC related to other than PhatBucks?

Pimpdog, any ideas?

Regards,

Lee

Martin3 03-13-2006 08:30 PM

oh, the poor girl was a victim :1orglaugh

JD 03-13-2006 08:30 PM

oh snap!

ozmatt 03-13-2006 08:31 PM

Contentshopper.com rings a bell, wonder if she was making much $

European Lee 03-13-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ozmatt
Contentshopper.com rings a bell, wonder if she was making much $

Wasnt that one of baddogs sites?

Regards,

Lee

Sly 03-13-2006 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee
Wasnt that one of baddogs sites?

Regards,

Lee

Yeh. Maybe she bought it from him or maybe he was only "marketing" it.

European Lee 03-13-2006 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly
Yeh. Maybe she bought it from him or maybe he was only "marketing" it.

Dunno, i think he said he owned it but anything is possible.

http://www.klixxx.com/stories/10q/baddog.shtml

Regards,

Lee

European Lee 03-13-2006 08:40 PM

An interesting quote from that Klixxx article..

Quote:

Email spam. Just like cross sells have brought the wrath of Visa on us, email spam is bringing governmental heat upon us. I know it works..
Wonder how he knows it works? :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

ricks 03-13-2006 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest
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Clason came clean on the MommyJobs.com message forum in a long letter to her site visitors, but claimed she was victimised by a man who convinced her that spamming wasn't illegal. Recently, she said, she left the spamming business.

"Apparently this guy that I had trusted for five years had lied to me," she wrote. "Not only was his spam operation illegal, but he was also doing other shady stuff that I had no knowledge of like money laundering!!"

http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.a...&src=site-marq

What a dumb bitch, acting like the oh so innocent mommy, willing to rat out anybody. This is why I don't do business with women.:2 cents:

Tempest 03-13-2006 08:49 PM

The domain reg for MommyJobs.com, PhatBucks.com, Galleriesblog.com and Contentshopper.com are all the same, Coast To Coast Cash, Wendy Miller.

WiredGuy 03-13-2006 08:52 PM

Isn't ContentShopper something Baddog promoted or owned ?
WG

dropped9 03-13-2006 08:53 PM

interesting

polish_aristocrat 03-13-2006 08:55 PM

baddog said he sold contentshopper i think

SmokeyTheBear 03-13-2006 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest
The domain reg for MommyJobs.com, PhatBucks.com, Galleriesblog.com and Contentshopper.com are all the same, Coast To Coast Cash, Wendy Miller.

wtf ? :Oh crap

elitetec 03-13-2006 08:57 PM

cool stuff here sorry im late

BradM 03-13-2006 09:00 PM

JenC self destructed some time ago.

Napolean 03-13-2006 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
baddog said he sold contentshopper i think

he still has his own sites advertised on it too, unless he sold sexpicturepass too :upsidedow

chadglni 03-13-2006 09:05 PM

Hello people. 1 spammer you associated with daily down, 1000 more you don't know about. :1orglaugh

selena 03-13-2006 09:06 PM

I've been to that Mommy Boards site before. I recognized it when I just went to look.

I came across it when I was trying to figure out what I could to to work from home.

It didn't have any bearing on what I ultimately ended up doing though.

adultchica 03-13-2006 09:09 PM

I don't feel bad for any of them. Spamming is a dumb way to market your product, especially when it's almost illegal now.

joefriday 03-13-2006 09:10 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting

chadglni 03-13-2006 09:13 PM

Now I remember the name, isn't she the one running adultblogindex.com too?

Tempest 03-13-2006 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
Now I remember the name, isn't she the one running adultblogindex.com too?

I think so.. baddog also promo'd that last year a little.

domain reg for adultblogindex.com, Coast To Coast Cash, Wendy Miller
Also seenontvblog.com, Coast To Coast Cash, Wendy Miller

Bob_cougar 03-13-2006 09:32 PM

i always thought that "mothers know best" until i read this thread...

baddog 03-13-2006 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Yeh. Maybe she bought it from him or maybe he was only "marketing" it.


We were co-owners, no longer. I am the sole owner.

You may have missed this part "contains no pitches to join her porn content search site (Contentshopper.com).

ContentShopper was not involved in any way, shape or form with the indictment.

Tempest 03-13-2006 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
We were co-owners, no longer. I am the sole owner.

You may have missed this part "contains no pitches to join her porn content search site (Contentshopper.com).

ContentShopper was not involved in any way, shape or form with the indictment.

Domain transfer in the works? Cause right now it doesn't appear that you own it.

dissipate 03-13-2006 09:51 PM

Damn, that chick is from like 2 towns over from where I grew up.

baddog 03-13-2006 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest
Domain transfer in the works? Cause right now it doesn't appear that you own it.


Yes, we had to get everything moved to my servers first. I procrastinated and did not get it completed until last night. Transferring the domain name was not exactly a priority, it will be the next thing done.

will76 03-13-2006 10:12 PM

I love the part where she said " i didn't know i was doing anything wrong, i trusted someone i knew for 5 years that it wasn't spam".

I am sure she was making good money. Why not spend a couple hundred and consult a fucking attorney. Unbelievable. " I didn't know" is a very very lame excuse.

baddog 03-13-2006 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by will76
I love the part where she said " i didn't know i was doing anything wrong, i trusted someone i knew for 5 years that it wasn't spam".

I am sure she was making good money. Why not spend a couple hundred and consult a fucking attorney. Unbelievable. " I didn't know" is a very very lame excuse.

Do employees always consult an attorney to verify that the company they are working for are doing everything above board?

Sly 03-13-2006 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Do employees always consult an attorney to verify that the company they are working for are doing everything above board?

How often does an "innocent employee" get charged for company wrongdoings?

Did the secretaries and low level janitors of Enron get charged? Or how about Martha Stewart's assistant?

Sly 03-13-2006 10:48 PM

If anyone ever gets prosecuted for a 2257 violation, is the office secretary getting booked? How about the gardener?

RawAlex 03-13-2006 10:52 PM

baddog, sorry, but if this was a purely technical error (I pushed X then enter instead of enter then X) I wouldn't care. However, spam is spam. Jen spent enough time on webmaster boards to know what spam was, this isn't like a sudden, surprising "wow, spam is against the can-spam act" sort of thing. Can-spam and many other issues were top of the mind / top of the board issues, as has spam and spammers.

Trying to blame it on someone else (I didn't know the gun was loaded, that isn't my crack, she was only hitchiking) doesn't go over very well.

Alex

baddog 03-13-2006 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
How often does an "innocent employee" get charged for company wrongdoings?

Did the secretaries and low level janitors of Enron get charged? Or how about Martha Stewart's assistant?


Ryan, I have a little more knowledge of this case than you do, trust me. I can not comment, but there is a lot you don't know, and even more I am not prepared to discuss on a message board that the feds are reading as fast as we can type it out.

ricks 03-13-2006 10:55 PM

She is playing the role of dumb blonde girl, a victim. Like another poster said, admit nothing, get a good lawyer and stfu.:2 cents:

Sly 03-13-2006 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Ryan, I have a little more knowledge of this case than you do, trust me. I can not comment, but there is a lot you don't know, and even more I am not prepared to discuss on a message board that the feds are reading as fast as we can type it out.

That's lovely. I wasn't commenting on any case. I was replying to your statement. I wish her lots of luck.

artman 03-13-2006 10:58 PM

what a dumb bitch

baddog 03-13-2006 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
That's lovely. I wasn't commenting on any case. I was replying to your statement. I wish her lots of luck.


and what I am saying is that in this case, yes, the janitor was indicted too.

will76 03-13-2006 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
and what I am saying is that in this case, yes, the janitor was indicted too.


she cleaned the bathrooms too. :1orglaugh

I don't know details, but it sounds like she was benefiting from the spam more so then by just making $10 an hour as an enployee. If she was making 10x more then a normal employee for that position or she was making a % then she wasn't an employee she was a partner and she should have consulted with an attorney.

czarina 03-13-2006 11:42 PM

ouch! 15 years is a lot of years! And just for sending email? This country blows!!!
It is true that spam sucks, but it's just electronic mail... rapists and murderers out there get 10 years, and she can get 15 for spamming? Damn!

will76 03-13-2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina
ouch! 15 years is a lot of years! And just for sending email? This country blows!!!
It is true that spam sucks, but it's just electronic mail... rapists and murderers out there get 10 years, and she can get 15 for spamming? Damn!


she *could* get up to 15 years, but i doubt it would be even close to that. Unless she fights it and really pisses them off, then who knows they might throw the book at her.

As much as i hate email spam, the laws are way out of wack. murder in most cases 15 - 25 years, email spam, up to 15 years.... might as well sell drugs, at least if you get caught doing that you get in and out in a couple years.


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