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Brad Mitchell 06-05-2002 08:30 PM

Are these people selling STOLEN scripts?
 
http://www.paysitepowertools.com/

They're suspect because I just got an unsolicited spam from them. Some of the scripts, simple as they may be, seem useful enough. However, their pricing and lack of contact info on the website makes me wonder if these are just stolen scripts from some other website. They're selling a package of 5 scripts for just $99 and they have another product that looks cool as hell for allowing one htaccess file to refer to multiple password files.

If nobody thinks these guys are thieves, I just might buy the scripts!

Cheers

Brad

sexyclicks 06-05-2002 08:32 PM

I got this spam too like 5 days ago...

I was ready to buy that shit but I lost the link!!!

Mr.Fiction 06-05-2002 08:33 PM

I don't know about them. But, if they are in Russia or India, or here in the U.S. but using offshore programmers, their prices could be dirt cheap.

nuclei 06-05-2002 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
http://www.paysitepowertools.com/

They're suspect because I just got an unsolicited spam from them. Some of the scripts, simple as they may be, seem useful enough. However, their pricing and lack of contact info on the website makes me wonder if these are just stolen scripts from some other website. They're selling a package of 5 scripts for just $99 and they have another product that looks cool as hell for allowing one htaccess file to refer to multiple password files.

If nobody thinks these guys are thieves, I just might buy the scripts!

Cheers

Brad


they are spammers anyways...

but regardless, making a script that you aim the .htaccess at that reads in both .htpasswd files and spits out one list that apache can read is not difficult.

Sly_RJ 06-05-2002 08:54 PM

I get spammed weekly from those guys.

Turboface 06-05-2002 08:59 PM

Shhhhhh!!

You're gonna blow the whole thing...

mike503 06-05-2002 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
http://www.paysitepowertools.com/

They're suspect because I just got an unsolicited spam from them. Some of the scripts, simple as they may be, seem useful enough. However, their pricing and lack of contact info on the website makes me wonder if these are just stolen scripts from some other website. They're selling a package of 5 scripts for just $99 and they have another product that looks cool as hell for allowing one htaccess file to refer to multiple password files.

If nobody thinks these guys are thieves, I just might buy the scripts!

Cheers

Brad

you shouldn't support their spamming ways! :2 cents:

pr0 06-05-2002 09:21 PM

they arent sending blind spam out to everyone, atleast they are narrowing their market to webmasters

who gives a fuck if they are spamming if its something you want to buy, make an exception

mike503 06-05-2002 09:23 PM

maybe i should rethink my bias against spamming... if anti-spamming people still buy it if it suits them...

Brad Mitchell 06-05-2002 09:47 PM

I definitely agree Pr0... If I want something they have, I don't care if they spammed me. If it's something I don't want then I'm pissed. SO, what we really need out there are some psychic spammers to get it just right.

Brad

UnseenWorld 06-05-2002 09:54 PM

Spamming is just direct marketing. Smart direct marketers try to find lists of likely prospects: people one might reasonably assume could be interested in your product or service.

A list of people who absolutely are interested would be great, but is pretty much a fiction. Things are simply never that cut-and-dried.

Spam, like so-called "junk mail," is the unsolicited mail you don't want. The postal junk mailer risks wasting postage money by poor list selection and management. The online spammer risks various kinds of retaliation, official and otherwise.

Babaganoosh 06-05-2002 09:58 PM

No biggie. I took the email and sent it to spamcop like I do with every other spam I get more than once. We'll see if something gets done with them this time. And whatever you do, don't buy anything from them. That will just encourage spamming. If it weren't so profitable, nobody would do it anymore.

mike503 06-05-2002 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
No biggie. I took the email and sent it to spamcop like I do with every other spam I get more than once. We'll see if something gets done with them this time. And whatever you do, don't buy anything from them. That will just encourage spamming. If it weren't so profitable, nobody would do it anymore.
exactly.

Redbone 06-05-2002 10:40 PM

I'd buy from a "spammer" if I wanted the product, sure. And if the mail targets the buyer really well, what's the problem? It's not even spam then. Blind mass spam is the only problem.

mike503 06-05-2002 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Redbone
I'd buy from a "spammer" if I wanted the product, sure. And if the mail targets the buyer really well, what's the problem? It's not even spam then. Blind mass spam is the only problem.
who decides if the "target" was really intended for you? you got an email regarding something webmaster-ish sure, but that's just luck. they spammed that same shit to 13 year old betsy nobody who just wants to look at nsync pictures online.

most spam is blind spam as far as i'm concerned. if they spam everyone they'll be able to get the people they think would want their product and anyone else who might be interested but never showed or picked that as an interest on whatever site resold their email address to begin with.

email spam is bullshit and i refuse to work with anyone who sends it to me. i've never opted-in to get anything, whether it be hot donkey sex with underage chinese girls or the newest webmaster tools out there, i never told anyone to send me that shit, so it was unsolicited. plain and simple. if i had opted-in at one point to get product announcements or something else, then yes, i obviously expected to get updates or notices about that. other than that, it goes in the bitbucket with the rest of the thousands of spam messages i get a month.

Redbone 06-05-2002 10:57 PM

Unsolicited email isn't necessarily unwanted email. Spam is email that's sent out in bulk, indicriminately, with no targeting attempted at all. If a person with some webmaster tools buys a list of the emails of everyone on GFY and then sends us all an email about their tools, is that spam? I say not. Then again, I'd be really pissed if a list like that were ever sold... unless it were sold to someone who wants to sell me something I want, of course!

mike503 06-06-2002 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Redbone
Unsolicited email isn't necessarily unwanted email. Spam is email that's sent out in bulk, indicriminately, with no targeting attempted at all. If a person with some webmaster tools buys a list of the emails of everyone on GFY and then sends us all an email about their tools, is that spam? I say not. Then again, I'd be really pissed if a list like that were ever sold... unless it were sold to someone who wants to sell me something I want, of course!
but not all webmasters are interested in the newest traffic trading script offer. so now you're really expecting them to know not only your market segment but also product choice and desires. is spam that targetted? no. it's just like stereotypes... to say that every [insert race here] is [insert sterotype here] is going to be wrong most of the time.

to say every webmaster in the world wants to know all the latest webmaster "scripts" and "tools" is insane. all bulk-email is considered junk email in my book unless i signed up for it. if i've signed up for it, then i consider that a "mailing list" of sorts.

i am interested in porn. does that mean when i get an email in my inbox telling me there's new porn out there, that was a good "targetted" mass email, because i'm male, horny, and looking for whackin' fuel? NO. otherwise porn spam wouldn't be considered "spam" because everyone loves porn. come on.

summary: just because the email is about something you're interested in, doesn't mean it was "targetted" or "approved" spam. it's still unsolicited.

just wait until you get 250 emails per day about the newest webmaster tools and such, and then you'll be complaining again. when every company in the world figures out "i can open up some place to sell scripts, and spam people, because they don't get offended when i spam them with non-porn, more business-related subjects!!!" i'm sure it will change your mind.

maybe that's just my "the-glass-is-half-empty" view. :2 cents:

dodik 06-06-2002 01:33 AM

Mike-get a life pal.

mike503 06-06-2002 01:35 AM

this might be my first chance to try that "ignore" option. i never thought i'd need to.

Babaganoosh 06-06-2002 01:42 AM

Unsolicited email is unwanted email. The last thing I want is someone hitting my email box with "special offers". The scary part is we all get spam so much that some of us are starting to accept it. Thankfully I am still able to see how sinister spam really is. If I ask for a sites "newsletter" then I obviously want spam from them, but unless I have given them my email address, I don't want to hear shit from them. Period.

mike503 06-06-2002 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Unsolicited email is unwanted email. The last thing I want is someone hitting my email box with "special offers". The scary part is we all get spam so much that some of us are starting to accept it. Thankfully I am still able to see how sinister spam really is. If I ask for a sites "newsletter" then I obviously want spam from them, but unless I have given them my email address, I don't want to hear shit from them. Period.
at least someone else in the world hasn't lost their mind.

a & h: :thumbsup :thumbsup

Milton 06-06-2002 02:44 AM

the site looks great ..

SykkBoy 06-06-2002 12:57 PM

hmmm, why do so many webmasters cry about email spam yet have no problems spamming search engines, linklists or AVS sites? I understand the AVS Builders are selling swiftly these days...isn't the purpose of that to basically spam the AVS with submissions?

I guess most webmasters only like spam when it suits them....


ok, I'm off to harvest and send..... (just kidding, relax you bitches ;))

Roxxy 06-06-2002 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
SO, what we really need out there are some psychic spammers to get it just right.

Brad

Ask and yee shall receive! :winkwink:

Babaganoosh 06-06-2002 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
hmmm, why do so many webmasters cry about email spam yet have no problems spamming search engines, linklists or AVS sites? I understand the AVS Builders are selling swiftly these days...isn't the purpose of that to basically spam the AVS with submissions?

I guess most webmasters only like spam when it suits them....


ok, I'm off to harvest and send..... (just kidding, relax you bitches ;))

We are talking about email spam. Search engines, AVS are in the business of taking submissions. There is no comparing email spam with SE or AVS submissions. SEs and AVS solicit submissions. I don't ever say "Hey, please send me some email attempting to sell me shit I don't want". See the difference?

SykkBoy 06-06-2002 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered


We are talking about email spam. Search engines, AVS are in the business of taking submissions. There is no comparing email spam with SE or AVS submissions. SEs and AVS solicit submissions. I don't ever say "Hey, please send me some email attempting to sell me shit I don't want". See the difference?

oh, so in that case it's ok to spam submissions? I wonder how the Hun feels about spammed submissions? but if the se's or avs's decide your sites suck major ass they can refuse to list them right? so isn't that the same as you hitting your delete button?

I agree there is a difference between sending to an email address that was obviously submitted somewhere and the dictionary type spams....

of course I often get flustered with large amounts of spam, but I'm so quick on the delete butto, I could give a shit less...no different than tossing Ed McMahon's envelopes in the garbage...except, I have to get up and walk away from the computer to throw that away........

LoveAsianChicks 06-06-2002 01:49 PM

Spammers make it sound like sending 1 e-mail to your address isn't a big deal.
To be honest getting 1 spam e-mail isn't a big deal, but when hundreds of different spammers have your e-mail, it can add up to alot of junk mail.
It wastes time sorting through crap e-mails from real ones.

Not to mention thousands of kids get spammed daily with porn ads.
I saw my cousin (she is 8) open an e-mail with some animal sex spam.
Just irresponsible.

payrollpete 06-06-2002 01:53 PM

you get junk mail all the time you probably don't act like a busy body and try to get them shut down LOL

so e-mail spam is the same

who cares, dis-regard the email and move on to the next

ITS THAT EASY :)

LoveAsianChicks 06-06-2002 01:58 PM

Your right you can delete and move to the next e-mail. It doesn't take alot of time to clear the junk mail but kids getting porno e-mail must end somehow.

We all believe porn should be online for those interested in it, but by spamming random people - porn is being forced upon them. Not a big deal for you & me, but for kids and such its a bad thing.

mike503 06-06-2002 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
you get junk mail all the time you probably don't act like a busy body and try to get them shut down LOL

so e-mail spam is the same

who cares, dis-regard the email and move on to the next

ITS THAT EASY :)

you don't get enough of it yet, obviously. some of us get more than enough. like they said above, big deal, one spammer sends you a piece of spam. however, for every asshole out there like this guy who will publically ask about spam, there's hundreds more who keep quiet about it. and when each one of those fuckers is sending me one message per day, that's hundreds of messages per day.

eventually it will be so bad that if i go away on vacation, my mail program will crash or server will get full (not very likely, but due to the growing pattern, i'm sure it will happen someday...) while i'm gone. just an easy "delete and move on" situation then? no. that borders almost on a denial of service attack.


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