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SplitInfinity 07-19-2006 11:44 AM

FINALLY! Kremen VS ARIN! Antitrust and etc... w00t
 
Finally someone stands up for the "net". Gary Kremen filed this
lawsuit against ARIN, nice shit!! Goooood JOB Gary!

Steve Cohen: Still in Jail.
ARIN: On the chopping block.

Read this PDF and shit! ARIN wont be able to fight it.

http://www.splitinfinity.com/misc/kremenVSarin.pdf

ne0 07-19-2006 11:45 AM

bump for the justice :)

media 07-19-2006 11:47 AM

Damn... thats some interesting news... reading the pdf...

stickyfingerz 07-19-2006 11:47 AM

Reading it good stuff!!

JFK 07-19-2006 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Reading it good stuff!!

YUP:thumbsup

Chris 07-19-2006 11:59 AM

hmm
i never really understood antitrust suits but this gives me a good view on it

on page 10 now or so

i think i can pretty well brief it :

kerman is sueing arin because when kerman won his judgement aginst cohen and all his assests or whatever and in that judgement he got he was awared the netblock with arin had .... arin didnt give it - kerman feels he would of gotten more traffic to his site and would of been able to host more sites if he had this netblock he should of be given ....If he had the netblocks he feels that he would of had better rankings in google lol

yes he said that :P

joshuawk 07-19-2006 11:59 AM

how many IP addresses is he trying to sue for?

200 million or something? how many class c's is that

Los 07-19-2006 12:58 PM

where i see bullshit is on page 19 - 20

1) if your having to hide your info i dont think 99% of the members that own ip blocks would want to do anything with you.

2) anyone that has gone thru the process of getting ips would know that arin does give very good guidlines of justification.

note: arin does not make it easy to obtain netblocks but in good reasoning to keep the scum at bay. if you have gone thru the process you know it's a lot of work. and from reading this thing it dosnt look like arin was asking them for anymore info then they would ask the next person.

seeric 07-19-2006 01:02 PM

reading now.

Manowar 07-19-2006 01:04 PM

hah, this will get interesting

Drake 07-19-2006 01:05 PM

hmmm interesting

MsWild 07-20-2006 05:52 AM

very interesting...

joshuawk 07-24-2006 03:12 PM

how many ip addresses is he trying to get

pocketkangaroo 07-24-2006 03:26 PM

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=kremen
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ghlight=kremen

Seems he owes people money. Nothing against the guy, I just don't like guys who try to make money by suing people left and right.

XPays 07-24-2006 03:27 PM

hey chris - how do gary's balls taste

Pleasurepays 07-24-2006 03:59 PM

too lazy to read this. is it about gary suing because they allowed him to turn sex.com into a basket case?

s9ann0 07-24-2006 04:17 PM

ARIN needs to understand IP addresses were invented so webmasters can spam google

Techie Media 07-24-2006 04:18 PM

Interresting reading for sure.:upsidedow

SplitInfinity 07-24-2006 04:38 PM

"hey chris - how do gary's balls taste"

I was hoping you would tell me before I took a bite myself.

LOL

SplitInfinity 07-24-2006 04:40 PM

So the deal is basically that Gary won the IP space in a court ruling....
Then ARIN said "No way, were not going to give them to you even though you now own the business and all its assets according to the court".
So Gary's suit is right on track. They are playing BS with him to try to get those IP's out of "historical" arin. Meaning they were assigned during a time
when ARIN had different rules and so are grandfathered in.
Gary has a legit case and will most likely win. And I'll tell you, if he does, it will change the face of IP space as we know it today.


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