FACT: 90% of those who oppose Israel's actions are pure anti-semites
 

They will always deny it, and chances are most of them will be bashing me soon enough in this thread, but this is the truth.

Here are quotes from Hooligan, who started another typical anti-ISRAELI thread:

"But throwing shit at synagogues are juvenile pranks and I doubt jews would mind."

Then Deputy Chief Command offered: "dont buy kosher food ! "

to which Hooligan replied:

"You have a point there.

I also think its a good idea to support CD and video sharing online.
The media corps are all jewish."


Then after I called Hooligan a racist in this thread, Mr. Soul replied:

"It's racist to oppose Irsrael's invasion of another country? You make me fucking sick. You should be the one who kills himself for the advancement of humanity. A comment like that proves what a sick fucker you really are."


He didn't even realize the anti-semitism in Hooligan's words....

I can pretty much assure, that in any so called "political" anti-Israeli thread, I could eventually find a jew hating quote.

Like I said, in 90% of the cases, it has nothing to do with opposing a governments' actions, or political arguments, in 90% of the cases it's just pure hate for the jews... neutral readers, pay attention to this next time you read anti-Israeli propaganda on GFY...


There is a small minority of people who oppose Israel but I believe are not anti-semite, directfiesta is probably a good example, and there are some others... but 90% of the time, well, like I said...

Fact: you are retarded!

Egomancer

:1orglaugh

Israel invaded Palestine one day before the palestinians would have recognzied the country. Which would have been the first step for peace. But they timed it that way so the peace does not come and they can invade the land of other nations.
What about that?

Egomancer

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Lebanese Children Receive Them
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must watch video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...23714384920696

keep watching Al-Manaar...

don't put out crappy stats from nowhere and send us traffic!

thread title is false

I think the timing was Iran (ab)using Hizbollah to get less focus on them. That was wrong.
Israel took the bate. Which was also wrong.

Fact: Egomancer is correct.

Look,

the only interested part in this conflict to last as long as possible is Israel. It is obvious that they have the power on their side and they use the power to gain control over Palestine and Lebanon. They never liked the independence of Palestine and they need resources from Lebanon.

On the other hand US supports Israel with full hearth because this way they can get to Siria and Iran (which support Hezbollah). The master pupetteers are Iran and US here, don't get fooled.

Egomancer

Compliments are nice, but think you may be over-stating his qualities :pimp

*rolls eyes*, you're going to need to do better than that.

bunch of crap

I'm glad I know quite a few jewish people and am very fond of them. The ones like alexg that believe you can't have a disagreement on israeli's politics without being anti-semite must be uneducated morons who give jews a bad name.

fact : you made up that stat up because you think 3 people = 90%

Must be the same math to justify killing hundreds of innocent civilians and dozens of idf soldiers because 2 soldiers got kidnapped.

Your the racist get it .. you somehow hallucinated 3 people = 90% so you make some assinine statement in defense of your faulty math. get your head out of your ass , its this EXACT thing thats causing the problem.. Your the racist not 90% of jews or 90% of israeli's , just you.. take a step back and read the title of this thread.. do you really think this type of mentality helps things ?

Murder is wrong , practically everyone on the planet is telling israel they are wrong ..

The only guy who seems to agree with israel's terrorist campaign is the same guy rushing shipments of laser guided missiles to israel = $$$

:thumbsup :thumbsup i think alexg needs to go down to tel aviv and see all the jewish anti-semites marching in the streets ..

haha, you mean 500 communist lunatics that basically piss off 99% of the Israelis...


I really don't see what you're angry at...

I had a theory... because this is GFY I call it a "FACT"... If you think you belong to the other 10% (I also think so btw), you can just say so... I never called YOU a racist... I don't see why you call me one... can you post quotes that prove I'm a racist? I'm sure you can't...

again your math is way way off..

http://www.haaretz.com/hasite/images...20706dudu1.jpg

israel is filled with anti-semites it seems, haaretz says there was 5000 not 500 , why do you feel the need to distort the facts to support your theories ? i guess being canadian i have a much better news of israel than say .. an israeli ...


i rarely get angry , i occasioanly am annoyed that people i think have their head on straight flip flop and suddenly start talking the same racists rhetoric they are trying to stop..
you stated a fact i pointed out it was wrong.. if you stop and think about it for a second you will realise your numbers are wrong.. your statement isnt totally without merit but your numbers are very very wrong.

well guess what, Haaretz LIED!

I heard from people who saw the demonstration there weren't more than 500 people there...


you know what, even if there was 5000, do you REALLY think they represent a common belief in Israel? If you think so, you really are "living in a movie (translated from hebrew)" ...

PLUS, a high percent of those people (I won't make up an exact number, because I see numbers are a touchy subject for you) are ARABS... muslims... who don't serve in the army and obviously are against everything Israel stands for (except for democracy)... so what's so surprising?

this demonstration wasn't even reported on a single TV station... you know why? not because the TV channels are biased, but because this demonstration is way out of the concensus in Israel... and therefore it's not worth covering...

The land the Hezbollah are targeting with their missiles, is this land the Israelis took from the Palestinians or the land the UN stole from the Palestinians and gave to the European Jews who had illegally emigrated to Palestine after the Second World War and decided was their new home land?

Were the European Jews who were murdering English soldiers after WW11 terrorists or freedom fighters?

The land the Israelis took in the previous wars on the excuse that is was in their protection to take it, is it now so safe they can put farms onto it?

Israel will never know peace. Simple but true. The Muslims believe they will go to heaven dying fighting Jews, they worship death, not much you can do against that except make them love you. Fat chance of that while you're killing innocent people.

this statement doesn't make sense..

nevermind it's content... it's just not logical... can you see what I'm talking about?

lol when all else fails everyone is lying right ? lying or anti-semite. i actually watched video footage of it , there were way more than 500 people , thousands of them. your friends are filling your head with lies

I never claimed they were the common belief of israel , i was merely pointing out how many anti-semites there must be in israel ( by your numbers of 90% )

cmon dude your smarter than this.. you made a generalization , i do it , we all do it , but when you put a number ( 90%) and an inflamatory statement ( anti-semites) with it , your going to get flack

p..s while we had this conversation 2 israelie's were killed in rocket attacks and 2 lebanese were killed , all civilians.

FACT: There is 90% chance of being called anti-semite if you criticize Israel in any way.

i actually meant 90% of gfyers who oppose israel...

maybe the 90% is also not accurate in this case... but the point is, people should pay attention, because this is often the case... people who generaly hate jews, and "as if objectively" oppose israel's actions...

i dont see it . its rare , i see a staunch anti-semite about as often as i see a radical jew..

I think that your personal experiences or beliefs are clouding reality. a real anti-semite is fairly obvious and they dont "hide" as objective observers.. they might do it for a bit , but when pressed on the issues the racist in them usually pops out for everyone to see. I will agree 100% of anti-semites prob dont agree with the israeli invasion heh i think its safe to say the vast majority of the planet doesnt agree with the israeli invasion. but anti semitism has nothing to do with it , i think its the whole baby killing murdering civilians thing , the same way the whole world condemns suicide bombers, but i think maybe israel has been overconfident thinking because the rest of the world hates suicide bombers that it means a green light to ethnic cleanse their neighbours.

Well think about it a bit harder.

Muslims worship death, if they die fighting for Islam.
The Jews will never stop killing them.
The region will never know peace.

How tough is that to understand?

I see you ignored the rest of my post, did that make sense then?

How many ex Israeli terrorists became Prime Ministers. Ministers or leading figures in Israel?

Finally, an actual fact in a thread started by alexg.

So, I admit I've wondered before.. and it's almost impossible to hold an intellectual conversation on the topic without someone like alexg screaming "Antisemite!" but why does it exist? What are it's (antisemitism) roots throughout history?

Why is antisemitism so widespread and extreme today? Is it created and perpetuated by the media?

The main thing that pisses me off, is being called racist or antisemitic for asking questions or being curious and want to have the conversation.

ok, you want me to explain why your statement didn't make sense? here you go... you said:

"The Muslims believe they will go to heaven dying fighting Jews, they worship death"

then you said "Fat chance of that (make the muslims love you) while you're killing innocent people."

I assume you were being sarcastic, and didn't literally mean there is a fat chance of that to happen.
If so, it is not logical, because you said before muslims WANT TO DIE. therefore they SHOULD LOVE you if you kill them.

IF you WERE NOT SARCASTIC, and actually meant there IS A FAT CHANCE of that to happen, then your statement made sense, but not much of a point.

I hope you understand now...

I didn't call YOU an anti-semite... I don't see why you're attacking me...

I called Hooligan an anti-semite, because he clearly said something anti-semite.

The thread title was about people who oppose Israel's actions, are just anti-semites. I didn't say called me one, I said "someone like alexg" who is too free with the label. I think it's used too liberally in order to censor others.

i'm not too free with the label...

so far i only called "hooligan" that way, because he clearly is. if i didn't call him an anti-semite, no one would....


the 90% may be too much, but it doesn't say anything specifically...
can you PROVE that less then 90% of gfyers who oppose israel are anti-semites?

I tend to stay out of political debates on business forums but this statement here is very accurate.

Asking them to hold a discussion without the 'anti-semite' or 'racist' card is like asking a dog not to bark. It's in their nature.

Don't know why there is a State of Israel .. did the Jewish Messiah arrive, and I missed it?

Ding! Ding! Ding!

90% ? haha... whatever... You know what, I could say the contrary, 90% of those who fully support Israel have said something racist against arabs...

Stop trying to backpeddle with your Zionist spin, just stick to your guns. I wouldn't say I was an anti-semite, I have been impressed with a number of Jews in recent times (most of which you'd call traitors no doubt), but I am very anti-Zionist. It isn't even that I am against ethnic nationalism in moderation, just that I am against nationalism which seeks to deny others the same rights they seek to claim for themselves, or fail to offer adequate compromise to other peoples (which is what I'd refer to as extremism). Zionists are a class act when it comes to this (as can be noted by the positions they take in Western society on such issues as mass-immigration), and thus I essentially hate them (aka you). Zionism has way too much history of deception for me to ever believe they could be a true ally of Euronationalism (which I support) at this point in time, though being a fair minded person I'd like to see and accept a toned down version of what you, your Zionist kin in the West and Israel currently offers the world.

AlexG, when your nation was in Israel, my nation was roaming (and consequently owning) one third of Europe. Based on Israeli logic we should exterminate like one quarter of the Europe's nations.

Egomancer

Ah equating jews with dogs - how nice

To say something is 'in their nature' is the essence of racism. Black people are cowardly 'because it is in their nature' is another oft quoted remark and usually prefaced by 'I'm not a racist its just a well known fact'

The statement (be it Jews or blacks) is accurate only because it conforms with your own prejudice. The fact that either statement is total bollocks has (unfortuantely) no bearing on the matter.

Israel does attract disproportionate criticism due to anti-semitism. That is fairly obvious. Criticism of Israel is not always due to anti-semitism. Again this is fairly obvious.

How much of the criticism of Israel on GFY is founded on hating Jews? Most of it. But this is a porn forum and to expect any informed debate on the Middle East problem (yeah fucking jews stole the land like 'its in their nature') is akin to Fox News giving a balanced critique on the Bush Administration.

On and not Jewish before you ask.

sure, sure... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.startribune.com/722/story/562903.html

"All these topics are subject to review by Israel's chief military censor, who has - in her own words - "extraordinary power.'' She can silence a broadcaster, block information and put journalists in jail.

"I can, for example, publish an order that no material can be published. I can close a newspaper or shut down a station. I can do almost anything,'' Col. Sima Vaknin said Wednesday
"


Talk about being brainwashed.... I bet you also heard the 90% number on Israeli news uh..? lol

:thumbsup and it gets really annoying..

You're a fucking retard... I admire the jews for what they have been doing since WW2... But was there really a necessity for this war ? I don't know.

FACT: you are a knob

FACT: Jews have tiny penises and are still pissed about that whole holocaust thing and intend to kill one for one how many of their own kind were killed by Hitler. They chose those of the Islamic faith to take their aggression out on.

I'd say that this war is the way US try to kick Siria and Iran's ass using Israel's foot. We'll see...

YOU are an idiot alexg.