Playtime with Spanky
 

First off, I'm not here to dance on anyone's grave or bash. That's not and has never been my style. This is simply the bottom line story and my thoughts as they pertain to the sonofsam fiasco. No more, no less.

It started for me last year, when I saw that he and AaronM were having a problem. This "sonofsam" person (SoS), who was new here, at least to me, was calling Aaron out for "ripping him off" on a content deal, and knowing a little something about Aaron the way I do (I've never met the man in person btw, but we have interacted on the board for years now, and I believe I have a fairly good sense of how he operates)... I attempted to intervene and try to help young sammy out of his jam. I knew that Aaron wasn't about to budge on certain things, thus my approach was to try to convince SoS to play ball (just enough), get him his rightful deal to his satisfaction and help him to see the bigger picture, and move on with business.

I saw that if Sam would just pay Aaron the remainder of what was owed on the deal, I could convince Aaron to replace a portion of the content package he sold Sam with more appropriate content. (It was a "bulk" deal, you get what you get, and people need to look over such content closely BEFORE buying it, that's business 101 basic, or at least it should be). I wasn't asking for the moon, I wasn't trying to get Sam to bend over and take it in the ass, I was merely trying to get him to put his ego aside and get the deal done.

Those who were paying attention know I did not come into that thread with attitude or arrogance, nor did I ridicule Sam or anyone. I simply assessed the situation based on what both parties where posting and saw the best course of action in order to SOLVE the issue. It quickly however, became evident that young Sam wasn't interested in solving the issue, he was only interested in having everything his own way, which I knew wasn't about to happen. I also saw that at that point Aaron was himself willing to bend.... a little, but only if certain conditions were met. It was a tense situation, yes.... but I'm still confident to this day that it was solveable.

However, SoS wasn't interested in what I had to say, but was only interested in making post after post chock full of arrogance, defiance, smartass comments, and a good bit of twisting of the facts to boot. After trying for several days to get not only Sam but Aaron as well to be reasonable (btw, Aaron had confided to me during that time that he would "play ball" so to speak, but only if Sam would) I finally had to concede that Sam had buried himself too deep and the deal was a lost cause.

After that happened, young Sam seemed to see me as "the enemy", siding with Aaron against him (which isn't true, it's the way he saw it only), and he proceeded to start cocking off at me at every turn. He would post below me on some random thread and make a smartass comment about something I said. On other threads if I said anything in opposition to his point of view he would launch into a baby tantrum of near epic proportions and post old pics from an ancient website of me instead of actually dealing with the given issues, attempting to deflect the focus from him onto me. Btw, those goofy photos were a joke, down in Mexico about 15 years ago (when Sam was barely out of diapers) a bunch of Winnipeg girls dared me to "go local" and wear one of those small bathing suits.... it is a joke, I'm not too egotistical that I lack the ability to laugh at myself, so posting that stuff thinking it will "hurt" me or "pwn me" is actually owning himself. At this point I can't decide if the joke is on me or SoS. :D

I believe that one's own arrogance and downright childish smartassy unprofessional attitude will come back to haunt you in this or any business (or OWN you as the case may be), and as far as I'm concerned Sam is far too young and new to possess that kind of stubborn cockiness. His youth is no excuse, he alone allows it to be his downfall. As a matter of fact I have known several people in this business that have been just as young as Sam but have come from an attitude of wanting to learn and a willingness to listen and do the right thing, and an ability to recognize reason and sound advice when it's presented to them. Sam simply isn't built that way it seems, and it's a shame, because he has now apparently forfeited his entire dream. Is it really anyone's fault but his own?


In closing, even after all the schoolyard smartass and ridicule he has thrown my way over the past year, I still hold no grudge or ill will against the lad. I've been in this business and around adult webmaster boards for many years now, and will continue to thrive for many years to come. Others simply...won't. I've had long talks by phone over the years with several, and I do mean several people here and in this community, and I'm fairly confident that most would say they found what I had to say to be helpful, constructive and informative (as did I find most of them to be as well), and that sort of insight and experience is what I originally intended to offer up to SoS. I wish him well, and hope that he finds the means to learn from all this and move forward from it. Being down doesn't necessarily have to mean "down and out".

Nothing more to say on this, and I for one am willing to let any lingering issues between SoS and myself die right here. But that is really up to him.

Back to business...

too much to read.

CD,

The time you took to write this post is a waste of your time to try to explain yourself about an individual who has very little or no contribution to this industry that would reflect in a positive manner.

No need for you or Aaron to even explain yourself. Both your reputations will go untarnished over a guy who prides himself on stickman cartoons and poking fun or insults on others.

cliff notes anyone? jesus fuck i feel like im reading the whole set of Harry Potter in one shot!

Indeed, I posted that he needs to take more of a professional approach. That he needed to stop with "what he thought" was the deal and just complete the deal the way that everyone knew it was supposed to be done.
Then he'd attack me and call me a brown noser... I replied saying that I infact thought Aaron was over reacting... but he had the right to do so since it was not him violating the terms of the deal.

SoS then followed me from thread to thread, even posted attacks about me in threads that I had never been in. I just found the threads at random here and there.

Not the most professional approach, is it? He could have ignored my opinion, could have argued it, could have accepted it... what ever. But no.

And as long ago as that was, his ways never changed.

This Is Sigspot Territory!

So true. So very true.

If anybody is curious why he bumped this thread... read what i wrote to him here

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=753166&page=7

i don't know why he bumped this thread... it just makes my point concrete.. that he really does not have a social life aside from GFY.. lol

Since he doesn't seem to want to let things die and bygones be bygones...

Son of scam is still mad because I tried to help him a few years ago out of a jam with Aaron. He didn't like the help I offered and in fact turned immediately into a mouthy little puke with me so I told him "good luck with it", and he's been this way with me ever since... childish, snotty, and listening to guys who know nothing at all about my business, my income, what I own and what I have invested because of this business.

I'll wager I've sunk more into my rental house this past month in renovations than same old shit has made in the past 2 years.

I was not only willing to help him out of that jam years ago but was also willing to consider promoting his one-site fledgling program and maybe help him in other ways as well... until I noticed the attitude. Good thing I didn't put up links, because his model flaked (no surprise), he flaked, he reneged on a debt and eventually got royally owned by Baddog on his domain.

You hung yourself back then son, several times in fact, and now that you're "back" it will be just a matter of time until you do it again. Your shitty pre-teen attitude is your undoing, and your ignorance in not knowing who is worth getting to know and do business with is your additional downfall.

Supporting yourself since you were 16... big deal. Plenty of people support themselves. In light of your utter failures previous to this you would be much better served to just shut your mouth and try learning from people instead of continutally running your mouth and your keyboard, son.


Now come post some 15 year old pics of some guy in a speedo, I particularly like the hot tub one. It's about the most mature response you have for me aside from a kiddie cartoon, no?

hahah another novel from cocksmith...

see what i mean man? You have no life other then GFY... i make fun of that fact, and you get your panties in a bunch again..

hahaha.... you crack me up man... it must REALLY suck to need GFY that that badly..


hahahaha... you take this shit to heart.... most likely because everything i said in http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=753166&page=7 hit close to home since it was all true...

cry me a river :)

You really should have just resisted your urge to run your mouth and just put me on ignore and minded your own business kid.

That would have been the mature thing to do.


Get on with...whatever it is you do these days. Would it be too much of a blow to your ego if I said good luck with it? :D

What you've said about me in any thread you've ever said anything about me in has been about as far from truth or reality as it gets.


Anything else?

hahahaha keep going man... this shits cracking me up...

Your social life = GFY.

You're here. :D

Oh sweet.. the Loser know it all kid is back.. We need another moron around here to trash..

It has been a little dull lately hasn't it?

Someone who is 40+.... single.... hasn't accomplished shit all in their life... lives a very dull life... is absolutely in love with GFY because it lets him interact with people since he has no friends, but can't afford to go to conventions to hang out with his "friends" is in absolutely no possition to be making fun of anybody..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Who's writing this nonsense for you? You can't seriously be this stupid.


Can you? :D

:thumbsup

People only insult in others the that which they see in themselves. :2 cents:

Hahaha i was wondering when you would show up baddog, you senile idiot :)

btw.. back then i was actually mad... now i can laugh about it... if i could do it all over again, i would... i learned a lot even though i fucked up :)

and now i'm excited about the future cause im working on some pretty cool stuff and have started in a whole new industry... well it's kinda related.. but the money is a lot better... a couple people know what i'm doing, and all i can say is that i wish i had started in this a lot sooner.. make way more doing way less work... and best of all... its face to face interaction... so i dont get computer tough guys like baddog...

btw baddog... for someone who trys to act like a hard biker... you sure are a PC rat goof :)

He brings it on himself.

Maybe for you since JaneB hasn't clued into some of your more subtle jabs... But I've been more blatent and been having some fun playing with her.. she's so much fun.. I think I may secretly be in love with her and want her to have my babies..

Few do. :D


In truth, who isn't?

http://www.sangfroid.com/babypix/200...8feb01four.jpg

http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...4kerryjohn.jpg

http://www.bluefireband.net/pics/RaiseYourHand.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7...sedhand8ev.jpg

JaneB is going to eat young sammy alive.

Assuming he sticks around for any length of time.

He may be dumb, but I think he is smart enough to stay out of her way.

And so the saga continues.

As true today as when it was posted.

I have my doubts.

CDSmith... you and stuartd always try and get in the middle of peoples drama with your "solutions" as if anybody asked for your help... haha...

If you're that bored, go offer to do your neighbours laundry. It seriously must suck not having a life. I notice how hurting you guys are... but then i look at your lives and it all makes sense...

StuartD: Talking about someones wife is trashy, so i'll stop right here.

CDSmith: have pictures of you in a thong.... and tried to play it off like it was a bet between friends... spend every waking day of your life here on GFY... Get a life.

Baddog: 60+ loner... most likely neglected by his kids, so he has a hard time letting go of the "big bad biker" days... and likes how people pretend they think hes tough, because they feel bad for the senile loser and want him to feel cool before his inevitable alzheimers kicks in



Game over for you guys... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

CD is SUCH a trouble maker!!

SoS - please send me pics of CD in a thong - thank you in advance.

You haven't seen them yet??

Damn I'm slipping.


Here you go...


http://web.archive.org/web/200604251...gs/hottub1.JPG http://web.archive.org/web/200604251...erdogs/g3d.JPG



Of course when loser SonofScam tried to hotlink them way back when he once again got himself owned and they showed up as...


http://members.shaw.ca/cyberdogs/hottub2.jpg



Let me know if you need anything else hon.

Save>Screen Saver

Thank you :)

(damn, I'm really trying to figure out why he thinks those are a bad thing........)

It was no bet child. The Mexicans were selling them on the beach, a bunch of girls in our group dared the guys to buy one and strut around in it on the beach. I took that dare, because I have no false sense of ego hindering my every move like little boys like yourself do.


I can only wonder at how much you've taxed your brain trying to think up all the fantasy you've dreamed up and posted about me. You weren't back here 5 minutes and already running your keys at me.

Admit it... you've been stewing about me for the past 2 years.

:D

Kids like SonofScam and grownup adolescents like the DorkJedis of the world generally don't see things the way the rest of us do. :1orglaugh

Leave him out of this! :mad:

Thank you for that . . . it looked better when it was on the index page of his two cherished domains shortly after they became my playthings. I just did not feel like cleaning it up.

Say what?

I didn't even know you still existed and you come back here with this?

ROFL, i cant believed you took the time to write that shite, that no-one's gonna read anyway.

Get a life loser! :1orglaugh

LOOOOOL!

Nice thongs and mullet, you fag! :1orglaugh

My pleasure.


And might I add... :1orglaugh

well isn't this an interesting turn of events....in one corner you have someone who is well established in the industry feeling the need to explain simple business ethics to - in the other corner some child who apparently has too much time off from school where he feels the need to start issues and resort to lame ass insult tactics to try to get a non-point across.

i don't know aaron but he is one of the most direct people i have seen post on just about any board i have read. he doesn't take shit and he won't give it unless it's warranted.

cdsmith i do know and the last thing he will do is come in guns a blazing. he tries to help dumb ass noobs but giving very sound, pratical advice that, in most cases, should be taken for what it is. if someone wants to give help without benefit to him or her, some of you (and you know who you are) should take it with open arms.

i will leave it at this, some of you should really be ashamed to say you're professional with the behavior that's displayed.

come back and play when you ARE an actual professional and we (meaning the community of professionals) may look at you differently and give you what you deserve.

CDsmith? established in the industry?

sigwhoring you mean?


:1orglaugh


what does he ever do besides posting here nonstop?

Yes, because you have no clue (as usual), that naturally indicates that you're the one who's right.

Newsflash idiot, you go to no conventions, you do no business with anyone, no one knows who you are... how can you seriously even pretend to have any clue at all what anyone does or does not do?

If people come to GFY recognizing another as being here and doing a lot of work over the years, who the hell do you think you are to question it when it's so very clear that you have no idea what so ever?

lol... so sos is back?