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Beat ZANGO and others ( for affiliates )
Most of the solutions have been focused on the sponsor level , well i thought i would shift focus and try to see what affiliates could do to solve the problem..
so i threw this little gem together ( any help would be great ) , keep in mind this isnt 100% effective but seems to be a good start anyways WARNING this is a BETA example. use at your own risk. not all sponsors may allow being promoted using this method tested on zango make a blank php file called go.php this is where you will send your traffic in this page simply put this <script src=stb.php?stb.js></script> now make a page called stb.php in the same directory and put this inside it --------------------------- <?php $ra = array("http://www.streetblowjobs.com", "http://www.cumfiesta.com"); srand(time()); $sizeof = count($ra); $random = (rand()%$sizeof); $top = ("$ra[$random]"); if ( eregi ( "yourdomain.com", $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'] ) ) { // do nothing } else { $top = "http://google.com"; } ?> var blank=" ";function fill() {parent.main.location.href='<?php echo $top; ?>';} document.write('<frameset rows="100%,*" border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 onload=fill();>'); document.write('<frame src="javascript:parent.blank" name="main" SCROLLING="AUTO">'); document.write('<frame src="javascript:parent.blank" name="hidden" SCROLLING=no>'); document.write("<\/FRAMESET>"); -------------------------- tested on zango.. basically what we are doing is setting our sponsor in a frame from an external file that cant be read by zango thus its not "readily" apparent where the hit is going.. p.s. in the example im using random links as the target heres an example in action http://gfy.webspacemania.com/share/go.php |
im gonna test it out myself a bit and see if it works ill keep everyone updated..
if anyone else who runs alor of traffic wants to test it by all means d so and let us know how it goes. if you need help customizing it let me know |
Would be interesting for some high-traffic sites to try this out and see if there's a change in their revenues..
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p..s if your lost in how you would use this , basically instead of linking a streetblowjobs banner to streetblowjobs, you would link it to the go.php and it would show the same site. only hopefully most ref code rewriters wont be able to scoop the sale
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currently if you went to the links without using my method and the surfer had zango installed they would see ads for AFF and CAMS.com on top of the browser
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your example link don't works for me :error http://gfy.webspacemania.com/share/go.php
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Wouldnt modern bowsers see that as a 3rd party cookie and not set it with normal security settings?
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Os=xp.pro Ie 6.0 NIS and google toolbar :) |
keep in mind its just a demo . in a working version you would add some code so if the user couldnt visit the site in frames or has java disabled it would just forward using meta refresh or something
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smokey you smart
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<script language="JavaScript"> <!-- function SymError() { return true; } window.onerror = SymError; //--> </script> <script src=stb.php?stb.js></script> |
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ahh you have nortons antivirus on . i would could code something around that pretty easily.. try the link again and see what you get just out of curiosity.. ( i just added a link to it but you should see a diff ) |
thanks for the help......
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Bump for Smokey.
Great focus and probably the best solution. Most sponsors engaging in this type of activity won't change if it's making them money. :( |
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ok well for nortons users i would just make a forward and a link going straight to sponsor because nortons should stop the zango from working anyways :) |
so for anyone wanting to test this . you should add a basic html link to the first go.php file so it should contain this
<script src=stb.php?stb.js></script> <body><center><br><a href=http://sponsorlink.com>ENTER HERE</a> the link would only show up to users who cant view frames or apparantly those with nortons :) |
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<head> <script language="JavaScript"> <!-- function SymError() { return true; } window.onerror = SymError; //--> </script> <script src=stb.php?c=stb.js></script> </head> <body> <center> <br><br><a href=http://cumfiesta.com>ENTER HERE</a> </body></html> |
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hey swed i modified it a bit to see if i could get around that a bit more effectively . see if theres any difference
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still ENTER HERE |
I like this! Only one question though. Wouldn't the search engines consider this cloaking since the html source code is hidden on the page?
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This is a very good idea, only think is I have found embedding things in an Iframe often causes a reduction in traffic, not sure if its a browser thing or some other softwre that makes iframes fuck up a percentage of the time or what i noticed this when embedding comus pages in an Iframe. But I like that you are thinking about solutions keep up the good work !
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interesting to be honest
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Wouldnt a simple go.php which just does redirecting using the PHP header command work as well?
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basically what we are doing is setting our sponsor in a frame from an external file that cant be read by zango thus its not "readily" apparent where the hit is going.. So I saw frame, but in reality it is a Script include, might work then hmm.. |
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Might also be able to use one of those url rewriters like tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybgawq actually that wont work the tinyulr but you get he idea anyway I would like to find a solution for this too as all our google adbuys are affected. Wont work for our type in traffic though :( |
I'm not 100% sure, but I think a site loaded in a frame or iframe is unable to write a cookie to the clients machine in Internet Explorer... = you will loose alot of sales
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That this stuff is even needed to attempt to keep things working is totally fucked.
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Lars, you are suggesting that Iframe ads might in fact lead to lost clicks?
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so if someone went to "big sausage pizza" in google images , found an image clicked the linkin the google images frame the affiliate wasnt getting credit.. ( pretty sure this is fixed . ) |
im gonna give this a shot in a few :)
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Smokey. Have you made your first billion yet?
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I'd rather get 40cents an install than try and set that script up!
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since zango is an installed application, its using like DDE, etc to pick up the URL from the web browser active window....
so couldn't you just pass the URL you want to send the surfer to a php script that sets up frames? coding at the top of my head: link on affiliate website: <a href=FrameMe.php?url=http://www.somesponsorprogram.com/afflink/id=123>click here to get some porn</a> then FrameMe.php <frameset rows=1,* border=0> <frame src=junk.html name=top> <frame src=<? print $_REQUEST["url"]; ?> name=bottom> </frameset> the URL in the location bar will still show the affiliate website but the content will be the intended target.... but then those programs that bust out of frames, will just cause zango to pick up the URL Fight the brainstorming! |
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also if there is actual html rewriting going on they are going to detect the url in the frameme.php?url=thisurlcouldberewritten before the user clicks it.. leading the surfer through your script with zango's code on it. |
If there is a way around norton I might just add this, cheers Smokey!
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Love the site , visit it all the time..:thumbsup |
smokey, hit me on icq 64-103-248 I have something for you to check.
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You can get the tinyurl effect by just creating a directory, let's call it www.myfhdfghfsite.com/cumfiesta and then do a redirect permanent for /cumfiesta in the .htaccess leading to the sponsor...although I think Zango would catch this one ?!
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