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BoyAlley 11-20-2006 10:53 AM

PayPal Now Accepting Adult Merchandise!?!?!? Hell Has Frozen Over!
 
So on my board last week a very well known company that sells hard goods (dvds, sextoys, etc.), announced that they had negotiations with PayPal and that they are now officially approved to accept PayPal on their consumer sites:

The toystore/dvd site is: www.adameve.com

Apparently PayPal will now accept adult merchandise sites on a "case by case" basis (hard goods only, dvds toys etc.), but as of now still has no plans to accept membership or content sites.

Has anyone else heard this? Has anyone else on here been "approved"?

JD 11-20-2006 10:57 AM

omfg.....

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo2/wall...otext-640x.jpg

natas 11-20-2006 11:01 AM

damn this could be good news?

fris 11-20-2006 11:02 AM

probably on the amount of sales adam and eve does, paypal will benefit.

thehand 11-20-2006 11:03 AM

Wow, that is news if this is true.

GooSearch 11-20-2006 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris (Post 11353175)
probably on the amount of sales adam and eve does, paypal will benefit.


thats what i was thinking

Vanilla DeVille 11-20-2006 11:07 AM

Woohoo... that's awesome news... if it's true!! :thumbsup

AllStar 11-20-2006 11:13 AM

Well funny how a changing political climate will change companies minds...lol

DutchTeenCash 11-20-2006 11:18 AM

im pretty sure pp doesnt know cause they process under a non adult name

lemme check

ninavain 11-20-2006 11:20 AM

sweet baby jesus

BoyAlley 11-20-2006 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx (Post 11353252)
im pretty sure pp doesnt know cause they process under a non adult name

lemme check


They specifically said that they had open negotiations with PayPal, and got approval to use them for adult hard goods.

I'd really really really doubt that this company would try to "fly under the radar".

Seems like they legitimately are processing PayPal now.

Pete-KT 11-20-2006 11:22 AM

good, they finally got there heads out of there ass's

DutchTeenCash 11-20-2006 11:23 AM

hmm

PAYPAL *ADAMANDEVE'

pr0 11-20-2006 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllStar (Post 11353230)
Well funny how a changing political climate will change companies minds...lol

:1orglaugh

you really think a liberal congress is good for the adult business?

no government is good for us....it hasn't been since the late stages of Rome when Christianity was introduced

quit kidding yourself

adam & eve are the biggest retailers of toys on earth (so far as i know) and paypal has kind of a "sure thing" with them

Mr. Romance 11-20-2006 11:24 AM

weird...they need to make there mind up


Mr. Romance

DutchTeenCash 11-20-2006 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11353276)

They specifically said that they had open negotiations with PayPal, and got approval to use them for adult hard goods.

I'd really really really doubt that this company would try to "fly under the radar".

Seems like they legitimately are processing PayPal now.

Interesting

So this would mean volume adult stuff is ok with pp. Im sure esp content providers etc would love to know some specifics.

BoyAlley 11-20-2006 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 11353293)
adam & eve are the biggest retailers of toys on earth (so far as i know) and paypal has kind of a "sure thing" with them


I agree that the reason this happened is probably because of volume. But you have to wonder, is this a first step for them? I'd imagine we'll soon see other volume adult merchandisers on board soon as well.

Is it only a matter of time now until the floodgates open?

stef_girls18 11-20-2006 11:35 AM

that are some very interesting news, I always was under the impression that paypal stands by it's no adult merchants policy

tony286 11-20-2006 11:38 AM

I can see that hard goods even adult are not considered high risk by regular cc companies.

kristin 11-20-2006 11:42 AM

What a company to get it moving! AdamEve is HUGE!

Great step and move in the right direction...

kristin 11-20-2006 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 11353399)
I can see that hard goods even adult are not considered high risk by regular cc companies.

They aren't because they have more proof when people try to chargeback. Deliveries, signatures, etc help verify the consumer did not get screwed over.

Kimo 11-20-2006 11:44 AM

that is great news

martinsc 11-20-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 11353137)

wow, great pic :thumbsup

marko13 11-20-2006 12:00 PM

that will have positive impacts on adult industry...

KrisKross 11-21-2006 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx (Post 11353295)
Interesting

So this would mean volume adult stuff is ok with pp. Im sure esp content providers etc would love to know some specifics.

There's a difference between content and physical goods. With physical goods, it's easier to prove shipping/delivery and harder to successfully chargeback.

teh ghey 11-21-2006 01:57 AM

I wouldnt trust it.
PayPal was OK with adult years ago and even had a rep speak to webmasters at an adult convention to get our business. Then later they pulled the plug on us. They could do it again

AllStar 11-21-2006 02:42 AM

hmmm every country has a government. So that really isn't an issue.

Do you think it only has to do with being a big retailer?

Paypal stopped processing all Adult transactions....period!

They use too...now they are starting too, again. Sure it is with the big boys but now it is a slippery slope, you can't just say no to one and yes to another there are legal implications.

btw what is a sure thing?

The only thing that has changed in the last few months is the political climate in america.

Also remeber what is acceptable practise in one country isn't in another. Ebay/Paypal is now an international Business and maybe they are opening their minds and their eyes ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 11353293)
:1orglaugh

you really think a liberal congress is good for the adult business?

no government is good for us....it hasn't been since the late stages of Rome when Christianity was introduced

quit kidding yourself

adam & eve are the biggest retailers of toys on earth (so far as i know) and paypal has kind of a "sure thing" with them


AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-21-2006 03:05 AM

I sense that PayPal will have to change their policy if they made an exception for Adam and Eve, since it would appear to be an unfair business practice otherwise.

ADG Webmaster

inthecrack 11-24-2006 01:27 PM

I thought this was great news until I called their support line. I'm told that no, in fact it is still against their acceptable use policy. On inquiring why adameve can sell using PayPal and not me I only got a dumb "well they shouldn't be". After waiting on hold for another 30 minutes I got hung up on. So I submitted a further inquiry online. If I find anything I'll post it here.

Phil 11-24-2006 01:37 PM

fuck paypal. we did the same thing "approved" to sell adult traffic and fuckers shut the sccount down after 3 month.

DWB 11-24-2006 01:50 PM

fuck paypal.

of course as this industry forgets, they froze a LOT of accounts.

but please use them... and ibill when they come back... or globill or paymonde. all good. you people will never, ever, ever learn.

squishypimp 11-24-2006 01:53 PM

paypal sees the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

loco12 11-24-2006 01:57 PM

I don't think for one second we will be using Paypal for anything other than selling that old dvd player or pair of shoes on Ebay.

I had my account frozen and lost £3500 for over 6 months before they released the money. And I had to get a solicitor involved to get that back.

Wouldn't touch them with a 50 foot barge pole.

pornguy 11-24-2006 02:01 PM

It was bound to happen. they lost so much income when they dropped adult accounts, and now they want thier slice of the pie.

CDSmith 11-24-2006 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 11385384)
It was bound to happen. they lost so much income when they dropped adult accounts, and now they want thier slice of the pie.

No, it wasn't bound to happen. Check their TOS, they still want nothing to do with adult, period. If you think otherwise, try doing some adult-related transactions and I guarantee you your account will be frozen in no time.


People, don't be sucked in by this "news", or you'll be back at GFY crying about paypal very soon.

Gaybucks 11-24-2006 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthecrack (Post 11385194)
I thought this was great news until I called their support line. I'm told that no, in fact it is still against their acceptable use policy. On inquiring why adameve can sell using PayPal and not me I only got a dumb "well they shouldn't be". After waiting on hold for another 30 minutes I got hung up on. So I submitted a further inquiry online. If I find anything I'll post it here.

Remember you're speaking to some schmoe in a call center who is only capable of reading from Page 43 of the manual. Ditto a response you get from their online people.

This is something that was obviously done by going higher up the food chain and dealing with people that actually have brains, rather than robotic customer service people who are constitutionally incapable of thinking for themselves.

I suspect they are essentially "beta testing" with a few larger companies and if they see that fraud is as low as it actually is for adult physical product, they probably *will* allow adult physical product again... because they want the money. Electronically delivered products and membership websites are an entirely different deal, they probably won't fuck with that because they don't want to mess with high risk registration.

Jace 11-24-2006 03:45 PM

the only way I can see this happening is because of money, adameve.com processes milloions of dollars a month, paypal wants a part of it

woj 11-24-2006 03:52 PM

amazing, hell must have really frozen over...

HAPPYPEEKERS 11-24-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 11353137)

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA NOW THAT IS FUNNY LOL :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nikki99 11-24-2006 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 11353269)
sweet baby jesus

:winkwink:

notabook 11-24-2006 05:26 PM

I'd stay away regardless. I just had a PP account frozen because I sold too much stuff :) Only one person hadn't received their PS3, the rest did; all the tracking numbers clearly displayd that. Yet PayPal wants me to 'prove' I had them lmao. Mother fuckers!

interracialtoons 11-24-2006 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllStar (Post 11353230)
Well funny how a changing political climate will change companies minds...lol

NO SHIT!!
As soon as Dems won the house I started not giving a shit about all the old rules.

Webby 11-24-2006 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 11353114)
So on my board last week a very well known company that sells hard goods (dvds, sextoys, etc.), announced that they had negotiations with PayPal and that they are now officially approved to accept PayPal on their consumer sites:

The toystore/dvd site is: www.adameve.com

Suppose when you consider Adam & Eve has been around.. 35(?) plus years and with a solid bricks and mortar business track record and employing 350-400 ish staff, - there is little reason why any net transactor would not deal with them.

The scenario is kinda different to a few guys/girls operating websites with little or no solid physical base or management experience - the risk element is obviously higher for eg PayPal under these circumstances. (Plus, it's a lot more work mangaging 1000's of smaller merchants who may often have a biz career on the next of a couple of years)

cj_purve 11-24-2006 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh ghey (Post 11358782)
I wouldnt trust it.
PayPal was OK with adult years ago and even had a rep speak to webmasters at an adult convention to get our business. Then later they pulled the plug on us. They could do it again

aaah yes ;-) they even sent a rep to australia to chat to a few companies ... he came to a bbq at my home, but when paypal pulled the plug I didn't receive so much as an email warning me ... found out on a board.

but even with all that said ... I'd still use them to process adult products because it is the single best converting billing method, and you can withdraw your money daily.

Just take the risk that you are prepared to accept the consequences of!

Barefootsies 11-24-2006 09:37 PM

I doubt it's processing 'adult' as one big lump of filth.

My thought here is the word, 'tangibles'.... i.e. toys, DVD, video, etc.

The rules for tangibles are different that for memberships, clips, or untangibles as defined by VISA/M.C.

:2 cents:

HighSociety 11-24-2006 09:41 PM

i am banned for life seven times for selling dvd's with paypal, i have tried and cried my way to get nothing.

KrisKross 11-25-2006 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11386953)
Suppose when you consider Adam & Eve has been around.. 35(?) plus years and with a solid bricks and mortar business track record and employing 350-400 ish staff, - there is little reason why any net transactor would not deal with them.

The scenario is kinda different to a few guys/girls operating websites with little or no solid physical base or management experience - the risk element is obviously higher for eg PayPal under these circumstances. (Plus, it's a lot more work mangaging 1000's of smaller merchants who may often have a biz career on the next of a couple of years)

Shhh... Logic is not welcome here at GFY.

Dagwolf 11-25-2006 05:28 PM

Nice deal if you've got the resources to exploit it. :P I imagine competition will quickly get fierce.

AllStar 11-25-2006 06:06 PM

Seven Life sentences from Paypal. That is too funny.


Quote:

Originally Posted by made2ordervideos (Post 11387560)
i am banned for life seven times for selling dvd's with paypal, i have tried and cried my way to get nothing.


~zombiegirl~ 11-25-2006 07:52 PM

I wouldn't trust them again. Did everyone forget what happened a few years ago already??


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