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Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 03:25 PM

UFC fans ... wanna see some real fighting ?
 
Watch Pride Shockwave tomorrow...

UFC = 2-3 good fights

Shockwave = 90 % good fights.

Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 03:28 PM

Fedor - Mark hunt
Shogun VS Kazuhiro
Barnet - Noguera

Right there theses 3 fights could be 3 ufc main events.

starpimps 12-30-2006 03:28 PM

is silva fighting?

Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 03:31 PM

Nop he was supposed to be on the card but he's post poned till the next event in Febuary.

Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 03:33 PM

But Shogun is as exciting as Silva as a fighter... and I would say more skilled. Most industry mags rank him above Silva and some above Lidell (generally it goes as : Lidell - Shogun - Silva).

I'd personally rank them :
Shogun
Silva
Lidell

but time will tell ... Wand should be getting his fight agaisn't chuck one day or another. Stupid US fans kinda called it off for a while because they didn't know who he was.

Anthony 12-30-2006 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 11621793)
But Shogun is as exciting as Silva as a fighter... and I would say more skilled. Most industry mags rank him above Silva and some above Lidell (generally it goes as : Lidell - Shogun - Silva).

I'd personally rank them :
Shogun
Silva
Lidell

but time will tell ... Wand should be getting his fight agaisn't chuck one day or another. Stupid US fans kinda called it off for a while because they didn't know who he was.

Actually, it was called off because of the knockout Wandy received from Cro Cop, not because of the stupid US fans. Wandy wasn't cleared to fight so soon.

As for the UFC not getting to PRIDE level...

Confirmed, CroCop to the UFC.

Quote:


http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=2938

Wow indeed... I guess this clears things up a bit.

Here's the article as well (since it's an MMA-related website)

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NSAC APPLIES FOR CRO COP WORK VISA

Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Keith Kizer confirmed today that his agency has filed a petition with U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services seeking approval for Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic to compete in UFC 67 at the Mandalay Bay Event Center on February 3, 2007. The UFC has yet to request NSAC approval for a potential opponent.

It is speculated that UFC president Dana White will introduce the thirty-two-year-old Filipovic to the American viewing audience during tomorrow's UFC 66 pay-per-view broadcast. Filipovic, (21-4-2), is the PRIDE Fighting Championships' 2006 Open Weight Grand Prix Champion. A native of Croatia, Filipovic was a commando in an elite police anti-terrorist unit and is renowned for his arsenal of explosive strikes, which is highlighted by a devastating left high kick.

UFC 66 Salaries

The Fight Network has obtained the official compensation for three of the nine bouts on Saturday's card.

Tito Ortiz -- $210,000 / no win bonus
Chuck Liddell -- $250,000 / no win bonus

Note: Both Liddell and Ortiz are expected to share a percentage of pay-per-view proceeds.

Andrei Arlovski -- $90,000 / $55,000 win bonus
Marcio Cruz -- $5,000 / $5,000 win bonus

Forrest Griffin -- $16,000 / $16,000
Keith Jardine -- $7,000 / $7,000

Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 11621807)
Actually, it was called off because of the knockout Wandy received from Cro Cop, not because of the stupid US fans. Wandy wasn't cleared to fight so soon.

As for the UFC not getting to PRIDE level...

Confirmed, CroCop to the UFC.

Yes sir. Pride is going down and other orgs are gonna pickup. Nothing worng with that. I'm not hating on UFC. But fact is, this card sucks compared to pride's.

I'm more exicted with Rampage signed to the UFC... He got 2 very bad knockouts from Wand... but I really hope he picks up where he left and goes all the way this time.

Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 03:42 PM

P.S. Anthony did you follow the whole thing ? Is it even confirmed that Wand didn't pass ? Cauz Dana got asked by the MMA press many times and he answered with evasive answers more then anything else...

Anthony 12-30-2006 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 11621824)
Yes sir. Pride is going down and other orgs are gonna pickup. Nothing worng with that. I'm not hating on UFC. But fact is, this card sucks compared to pride's.

I'm more exicted with Rampage signed to the UFC... He got 2 very bad knockouts from Wand... but I really hope he picks up where he left and goes all the way this time.

Bro, I"d actually put Rampage over Liddell personally. But time will tell, and we will definately see in the near future. :)

I'm not arguing, the card does suck, but give it time. The UFC is the big market and has the brand right now.

Anthony 12-30-2006 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 11621838)
P.S. Anthony did you follow the whole thing ? Is it even confirmed that Wand didn't pass ? Cauz Dana got asked by the MMA press many times and he answered with evasive answers more then anything else...

So many rumours on it, but the NSAC is the only one I can see that has any roots to it.

Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 11621848)
Bro, I"d actually put Rampage over Liddell personally. But time will tell, and we will definately see in the near future. :)

I'm not arguing, the card does suck, but give it time. The UFC is the big market and has the brand right now.

Before he got down Rampage was better then Lidell... but right now ? Not so sure.

I watched a 45 mins interview and all he was talkign about was his new born christian bullshit and how he asked his wife to marry him while he was taking a dump on his toilet bowl...

He's very brandable and probably needs a good ego boost to get back into shape.

RealityWife 12-30-2006 03:51 PM

We will be watching both. Sucks to hear about Silva not fighting on this card. I did not know this.

Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 03:55 PM

This is a great card anyhow... ;)

P.S. Bodog seems to want to come out strong, IFL is very entraintening... TKO aiin't bad, the MMA scene is getting pretty damn good

Doctor Dre 12-30-2006 04:10 PM

http://www.pridefc.com/pride2005/img..._shockwave.jpg

Anthony 12-30-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 11621902)
This is a great card anyhow... ;)

P.S. Bodog seems to want to come out strong, IFL is very entraintening... TKO aiin't bad, the MMA scene is getting pretty damn good

American Top Team has some fighters in Bodog, we are well represented! Once Kang gets healed up, he's gonna take his rightful place at the top of PRIDE.

Quotealex 12-30-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 11621902)
This is a great card anyhow... ;)

P.S. Bodog seems to want to come out strong, IFL is very entraintening... TKO aiin't bad, the MMA scene is getting pretty damn good

MMA make no money in TKO, that's why the good ones leave for other promotions....

MikeVega 12-30-2006 07:09 PM

I have to watch more Pride .. I rented the best knockouts of 2006 PPV the other day and fell asleep ... I think it had to do with the way they video it and the fact that i only knew a few guys

I am looking forward to tonights fights and maybe I'll rent pride and give it another try

VeriSexy 12-30-2006 08:45 PM

I always prefere pride over ufc

gecko 12-30-2006 10:19 PM

I'll be watching both

Doctor Dre 12-31-2006 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal (Post 11622492)
MMA make no money in TKO, that's why the good ones leave for other promotions....

No duh... ever went there ? there is like 500 people in the place... except maybe the last event at the Bell centre wich was half of the center and not nearly full.
It's not a big fight league, but there are some quality fighters comming out of there.

Vitasoy 12-31-2006 02:39 AM

True MMA fans know about pride. I myself also prefer pride over ufc. But I do watch both also k1.


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