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Matt Damon 01-06-2007 11:29 PM

I want a pay site
 
Anyone got the hookup on this? I want something as pro as say bangbros or whatever. Anyone know how much these cost roughly? I need the full-on login sys etc, all that crap.

After Shock Media 01-06-2007 11:32 PM

Well with enough scenes to open with and have a little for updates (weekly), full scripting, design work, processing, and so forth. I would say are you prepared to drop 50-100k+?

Figure is not going to work if you desire to do PPS.

Matt Damon 01-06-2007 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 11676723)
Well with enough scenes to open with and have a little for updates (weekly), full scripting, design work, processing, and so forth. I would say are you prepared to drop 50-100k+?

Figure is not going to work if you desire to do PPS.

Really that much? I have scenes already, it's all in house no expense. So how much of that 50-100 is for the actual site, not the content?

After Shock Media 01-06-2007 11:47 PM

You asked for a figure. No idea on how to guess what you have, what you can do yourself, so forth.
Cms may run you a few hundred to a few thousand.
affiliate script may run you from a monthly fee to 13k+ or so.
Processing is gunna cost ya 750 at least.
One pro site design anywhere from 350 to 3500+.
Affiliate site design anywhere from 350 to 3500+.
Gallery templates will run ya 10-50+ each.
Banners will run ya 5-25+ each.
Domains can be 8.00 to 15k+ each.
Photo editing can be .50 to 3.00 per picture.
Video editing can be 50 to 1000 per scene
trailers can be 20 to 500 per trailer.
All extras cost more money.

CaptainHowdy 01-06-2007 11:48 PM

Matt Damon...


Mr. Romance

Voodoo 01-06-2007 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Damon (Post 11676701)
Anyone got the hookup on this? I want something as pro as say bangbros or whatever. Anyone know how much these cost roughly? I need the full-on login sys etc, all that crap.

Weren't you that retarded kid in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?"?

L-Pink 01-06-2007 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 11676797)
Weren't you that retarded kid in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?"?

:thumbsup :1orglaugh

Matt Damon 01-07-2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 11676797)
Weren't you that retarded kid in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?"?

You mean Leonardo Decaprio? No, I was the genius in Good Will Hunting.

OMG PWNED! :1orglaugh

bizarredollars 01-07-2007 12:39 AM

It's a lot more expensive to do than you might think... setting up a site is not that pricey, but retaining members is where the money goes.

jakethedog 01-07-2007 12:40 AM

hit me up on ICQ or MSN i will gove you the breakdown .. and some other ideas

baddog 01-07-2007 12:44 AM

I can set you up with an existing affiliate program, with members and 1400 affiliates for about what ASM was quoting.

Already nets 6 figures.

webgurl 01-07-2007 12:44 AM

let the jokes begin here insert ------------->

NaughtyRob 01-07-2007 01:30 AM

Hit me up and I'll do it all for you. Shoot it, edit it. Build the site etc. All for a good fee.

SkeetSkeet 01-07-2007 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 11676806)
:thumbsup :1orglaugh

Arny? is that you?

Paul Markham 01-07-2007 09:52 AM

I will say this. If you don't know don't do it. You need to know the answers to a few more questions than this and the ones you asked are basics.

As ASM said it can cost very little or a lot of money. Don't even dream of competing with Bangbros, they are out of your league. They are out of my league as well and I know the answers to your questions. :winkwink:

But as I set up a site a few years ago here's the costings.

Hosting, around $2,000 for a start up. When you get more traffic then you need to spend more and keep spending as traffic builds. BW might go on top of that.

Scripts, $2,000 for CMS unless you have a LOT of content. Start a site with CCBILL and use there affiliate script. If you grow then think about NATS and decide if it's worth it.

Design, $1,000. Forget about all the fancy designs, unless you have poor porn. Show surfers the porn, throw open the site so surfers see what they are buying. You don't need a fancy design, we are pornographers not Interior Decorators.

Processing, might be free but ASM gave you the figure.

So without content $10,000 is a reasonable figure to cover it.

Then submit your site to a few review sites, see what they say and make changes. Then submit to all the others, assuming they did not pan your site.

Within a few months you will have recouped your $10,000.

EVERYTHING rests upon the quality of your porn, if you have good porn you then need to just tell people you are there. Good affiliates are not fools they know the difference between good and bad porn.

If you have bad porn you are fucked, because you obviously do not know enough to work the traffic game, getting thousands of affiliates sending you traffic that converts badly.

King Adam 01-07-2007 09:55 AM

Just put up some live cams in your house and don't shoot content. Let a couple horny girls live there for free, have them sign your waiver and you are off and running.

Matt Damon 01-07-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 11678805)
Judging by the fact that you have to ask and the fact the fact that you have a 'sig for sale' sig you can't afford one.

Wow, dumbass, you didn't see the irony in my sig? I have about 10 posts as of writing this, it's a joke, obviously. I thought at least the :1orglaugh would give it away. :disgust

Jace 01-07-2007 10:23 AM

jesus Paul, spend money much

as usual, don't listen to paul...you can get a solid host for 25% of what he quoted, and still have bandwidth and space to grow on

as for CMS, there are plenty of them out there for $500, you don't need to spend $2000 on one to be happy

Grapesoda 01-07-2007 10:46 AM

pulled this off line here at gfy a bit ago . .should clear things up for ya

You are getting hosed somewhere.
First off very few webmasters will want to nor promote a paysite that uses Verotel as the primary.
Now some numbers to play with:
CCbill fee's 12.5% or so, often split with affiliates on revshare.
Bandwidth cost per member per month: $2.69 for myself
Content production & purchases per month: $3.54 per member.
Affiliate cut: 50%
Average membership price: $30.00

Affiliate earns $13.13 per sale (no ccbill split fee)
Owner earns $7.75 per sale

As you will see that is more than 15% profit for yourself. Of course as your member numbers go up your content costs per members go down. Also depending on your hosting often the more you use the less you pay per MBPS.

This also does not include any self generated traffic and sales.

morruga 01-07-2007 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 11679146)
You don't need a fancy design, we are pornographers not Interior Decorators.


HaHaHaHaHAHaHaHahAHa... well done!


...just for the records, i have a crowd of friends working on design stuff. And some friends that programs like hell and manage servers like real geeks. We live in a place where your dollar worth 2.5 times more (does south america rign a bell?? XD)

so, you can have a fancy site anyway for 2.5 times less money. Check this site out http://parallel.com.uy/ here is where i have my friends working, they are good with flash and with out it. :upsidedow

contact me if you don't want to spend money and have a really sweet site design.

31480130

Paul Markham 01-07-2007 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11679270)
jesus Paul, spend money much

as usual, don't listen to paul...you can get a solid host for 25% of what he quoted, and still have bandwidth and space to grow on

as for CMS, there are plenty of them out there for $500, you don't need to spend $2000 on one to be happy

He was not asking for a cut price operation. I know you can get a good set up for less. If he had asked for a cheap deal I would of given him cheap prices. In fact something to rival Bangbros would cost more than I quoted.

As usual don't listen to Jace, he has the wrong aswers because he does not read the question properly. :1orglaugh Only joking.

Anyway was I right about it turning a profit in a few months?

Violetta 01-07-2007 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 11676789)
Matt Damon...


Mr. Romance

:1orglaugh

nikki99 01-07-2007 02:39 PM

see my sig for tranny content for your site :thumbsup

shake 01-07-2007 02:45 PM

I you want even a chance to make it work in this crowded market - at least start with a niche rather than mass appeal. There are thousands of affiliate programs out there, and most of us won't be quick to switch away from our favorites without good reason.

:pimp

baddog 01-07-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 11679146)

Hosting, around $2,000 for a start up. When you get more traffic then you need to spend more and keep spending as traffic builds. BW might go on top of that.

They saw you coming

HighSociety 01-07-2007 02:55 PM

HomeMadePaySite.com 75,000

Jace 01-07-2007 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 11679412)
He was not asking for a cut price operation. I know you can get a good set up for less. If he had asked for a cheap deal I would of given him cheap prices. In fact something to rival Bangbros would cost more than I quoted.

jesus man, I wish I had known you were a sucker when I was thinking of starting a hosting business....because I could have offer you some killer $300/month virtual accounts

how much time a day do you spend back peddling out of things you say? it must be up to 2-3 hours a day these days

BlazingBucks_Ryan 01-07-2007 04:31 PM

If you want a serious script for running your affiliate program I have a copy of one that will handle every possible payout aspect you can imagine and integrate with every billing solution you would use. Cascading billing, the works ... You name it the script has you covered... Will cost you $2500

If you want more info on it contact me and I will send you some details, screen caps, etc .. This is being used by one major program out there right now - Very big program. I will send you that information as well if you have the interest. When the time comes, if needed, you can also cluster servers together with this yadda yadda yadda - It is handling I would guess well over a million hits a day on the big program it is being used at right now ... with well over 200 sites ..

sweetcuties 01-07-2007 04:40 PM

lol, some of these #'s are funny... I won't say what I started with back in 00 but it's a joke, compared to some of these numbers :2 cents:

After Shock Media 01-07-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetcuties (Post 11681250)
lol, some of these #'s are funny... I won't say what I started with back in 00 but it's a joke, compared to some of these numbers :2 cents:

We all know it can be done super cheap.
You do not need to start with a CMS, affiliate script, ect.
You can self design, edit, produce trailers ect.
Pick up a box for 125 or so.
Go with a no cost processor.
Then only real cost is content, and if thats licensed again super cheap.

Question stated "professional lke bangbros" though.


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