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will76 01-22-2007 11:09 PM

Offering consulting work - $10,000 min
 
I really don't have the time to do this but some of you really need help so here goes. Some sites are better then others but none of you really have your shit together.

You all lack the tools that affiliates need. You totally screw up things like signup pages (which is the most important page on your site.) I learned early on working with Clickcash that you need to make your own shit so I was lucky to be forced to learn for myself and not have to rely on the off the shelf, down right crappy stuff that some of you offer. I am not sure what background some of you have that run these programs or the quality of the people you put in charge of making the promos, but i can look at it from an affiliate point of view and tell you what works, what doesn't work, and what works really good. How do you determine who makes the promos and what they are? Does it come down from the top, does your design guy decied the layout of the pages, do you have a $10 an hour marketing guy (who can't make sales on his own) come up with your promos ?

All of these sites came to my attention as I was working on a new project that includes 15 - 20 sponsors, so I am signing up to a lot of you for the first time. This is mostly big companies that could do a LOT better job with their marketing materials and promos that they supply to their affiliates. I know these companies make money but if you supplied better tools you could make a lot more money.

I'll take 3 days to go over all your stuff, fly me out for 3 days and I will meet with you and go over everything with your marketing department, designers, programmers, etc... Depending on where it is at I might have to bring the wife :thumbsup

I know this is going to be a funny thread and is part of the reason why I am posting it :winkwink: , but the underlining fact is true and the offer is on the table if anyone would want to take me up on it.

tony286 01-22-2007 11:11 PM

that is something that would pay a big roi

LiveDose 01-22-2007 11:12 PM

This could get long. I'll park here.

datatank 01-22-2007 11:14 PM

$10k a minute? Nice

martinsc 01-22-2007 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 11774289)
$10k a minute? Nice

:1orglaugh

will76 01-22-2007 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 11774289)
$10k a minute? Nice



minimum, sorry i abbreviate too much. bacially it will come out to about $150 an hour + travel cost and hotel.

The most i can do is 1 week out of every 8 weeks. I have too much of my own stuff backed up to spend more time helping people although once every 8 weeks would be a nice change of pace to work on something a little different.

Screaming 01-22-2007 11:25 PM

i would think you would offer this for free if the send teamcc traffic...

will76 01-22-2007 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screaming (Post 11774334)
i would think you would offer this for free if the send teamcc traffic...

This isn't an offer to other affiliates, this is something that would help the affiliates that these companies have (and get them new ones if they have better tools).

If any of these companies want to do some type of upsell with clickcash I would help them set up the best promos that work with clickcash so they can make the most from the traffic they send to them. All i would ask for that is to refer me so I can make the 10% from clickcash. Which would likely be a lot more then 10K over time if they sent any amount of traffic. I wouldn't need to travel for that either.

webmasterchecks 01-22-2007 11:34 PM

beware of any offers that get you flown into pirates bay, indiana

Boobs 01-22-2007 11:40 PM

bump for you

will76 01-22-2007 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEMASKEDRIDER (Post 11774367)
beware of any offers that get you flown into pirates bay, indiana

I dont think lavendar cash can afford me :)

I have already turned down zango :winkwink: . Some how I think they had another agenda why they wanted me to fly to their office. :helpme

JFK 01-23-2007 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 11774275)
This could get long. I'll park here.

can I squeeeeezze in right behind you ?:winkwink:

BusterBunny 01-23-2007 12:29 AM

click sig......

bareskin 01-23-2007 12:36 AM

oh my found a spot quick

will76 01-23-2007 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bareskin (Post 11774514)
oh my found a spot quick

sig land rush ?

I better get mine in too :1orglaugh

starpimps 01-23-2007 12:41 AM

parked. :D

Zoose 01-23-2007 12:53 AM

I've kind of got a similar project going ( sounds like it anyway ) and what will76 says is soo fucking true. With all due respect to program owners, LOTS of you are completely out of touch with your affiliates' needs.

DamageX 01-23-2007 01:23 AM

$10K is cheap for that kind of consulting. And I agree, many sponsors need it BADLY.

JD 01-23-2007 01:27 AM

definitely something i'd say 80% of programs need badly...

woj 01-23-2007 01:30 AM

wouldn't it be easier to start a thread on gfy -> "Help us make our affil program better (win $$$)"... then payout $100 for 10 best suggestions, and spend the remaining 9 grand on designers/programmers/webmasters/etc...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-23-2007 01:30 AM

I'll pay you $10 a month to post my sig in your sig... :thumbsup

(See sig)

ADG Webmaster

will76 01-23-2007 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 11774711)
wouldn't it be easier to start a thread on gfy -> "Help us make our affil program better (win $$$)"... then payout $100 for 10 best suggestions, and spend the remaining 9 grand on designers/programmers/webmasters/etc...

Don't people start threads on GFY every couple weeks " what would you like to see in an affiliate company". Lots of good ideas are mentioned on those too but apparently no one listens.

Your post/contest idea is good and I am sure would generate some good innovative promos and stuff in general but what these companies need is a detail report, step by step on what they are doing right, what they are currently doing that needs to be changed, and new things they need to offer. Then they need someone to come explain it to their staff.

The " this is a good idea" apparently doesn't seem to work for most of them.

will76 01-23-2007 02:45 AM

Any program owners want just a little taste how you can make your stuff 100% better ?

Haven't seen any post in this thread yet... interesting.

jimthefiend 01-23-2007 04:54 AM

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You're a fucking JOKE.

jimthefiend 01-23-2007 04:56 AM

Best thread in years, btw. I actually laughed so hard some pee trickled out.

AmateurWealth 01-23-2007 05:02 AM

this thread is priceless.....i can even bring myself to point out the utter uselessness of it.....:1orglaugh

ServerGenius 01-23-2007 05:06 AM

I hate to break it to all you kids but no one gives a fuck about what you affiliate kiddies want. As long as you promote them that's as far as they go. Programs are in the business of making as money with as little investment as possible and primarily for themselfes.....not for you!

Now wait the reactions how all this is not true lol.....and that the tooth fairy is real too !

WiredGuy 01-23-2007 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11774914)
Haven't seen any post in this thread yet... interesting.

Well when you start off your post saying affiliate programs don't know what they're doing and saying they screw up things like join pages, I wouldn't hold your breath for consulting gigs.
WG

chuvii 01-23-2007 05:09 AM

bump for Will!

mule 01-23-2007 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11774262)
Some sites are better then others

and some people have a better grasp of grammar than others :1orglaugh

Lee 01-23-2007 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jimthefiend (Post 11775209)
Best thread in years, btw. I actually laughed so hard some pee trickled out.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ServerGenius 01-23-2007 05:15 AM

Oh and b.t.w. consultings gigs at these rate you don't offer....you'll get asked

Theo 01-23-2007 05:21 AM

You should have used all 12 text lines to say what you can do for an aff.program, rather than you really don't have time to do it. ;-)

jimthefiend 01-23-2007 05:29 AM

Oh my God this is funny.

You made my day Will, thank you.

StuartD 01-23-2007 05:33 AM

I predict that you'll get exact zero people interested in hiring you for consulting.

Give or take zero.

jimthefiend 01-23-2007 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 11775281)
I predict that you'll get exact zero people interested in hiring you for consulting.

Give or take zero.

You really think it'll be that many?

NTM 01-23-2007 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11774914)
Any program owners want just a little taste how you can make your stuff 100% better ?

Haven't seen any post in this thread yet... interesting.

maybe they just don't take sigwhores seriously?

StuartD 01-23-2007 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthefiend (Post 11775283)
You really think it'll be that many?

Well, I'm trying to be positive and optimistic....

and a little generous :upsidedow

Tuga 01-23-2007 05:54 AM

Bump for a nice dream :)

JFK 01-23-2007 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 11775229)
I hate to break it to all you kids but no one gives a fuck about what you affiliate kiddies want. As long as you promote them that's as far as they go. Programs are in the business of making as money with as little investment as possible and primarily for themselfes.....not for you!

Now wait the reactions how all this is not true lol.....and that the tooth fairy is real too !

I was starting to wonder about the tooth Fairy, thanks for the confirmation:thumbsup

sexykat 01-23-2007 06:10 AM

Bump it up.

How much if the affiliate wants to come to you, or lives near you and wants to drive down?

DamageX 01-23-2007 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 11775229)
I hate to break it to all you kids but no one gives a fuck about what you affiliate kiddies want. As long as you promote them that's as far as they go. Programs are in the business of making as money with as little investment as possible and primarily for themselfes.....not for you!

Some programs do invest to keep their affiliates happy. They say it's because they make more money that way. But what do I know? :winkwink:

jayeff 01-23-2007 06:42 AM

I would be very surprized if Will does get any offers. But that won't be because of who he is and certainly not because sponsors are in this business to make money for themselves and not affiliates. That is one of the dumbest rationalizations possible, since the two go hand in hand.

Sponsors who - for example - don't answer their emails, choose not to answer them because they dont give a f*ck. They don't pretend it doesn't cost them money, they simply don't care. The same principle applies to almost every way in which so many sponsors lose out on the business they could be doing if they had any real ambition. But they make - by their own standards - a reasonable amount of money without much effort and that is apparently enough.

Holly 01-23-2007 07:20 AM

I must admit- I like the, "I really don't have time for this or you, so I'm doing you a HUGE favor by allowing you to give me a large sum of money.


I think I used to employ this strategy with my ex-husband. :1orglaugh

Chio 01-23-2007 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly (Post 11775561)
....

I think I used to employ this strategy with my ex-husband. :1orglaugh

Did it work?

Holly 01-23-2007 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio (Post 11775615)
Did it work?

I've got an entire walk-in closet packed to the gills with shoes and purses. :Graucho

tranza 01-23-2007 07:51 AM

Just passing by.....

ServerGenius 01-23-2007 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11775364)
Some programs do invest to keep their affiliates happy. They say it's because they make more money that way. But what do I know? :winkwink:

well you gave the answer yourself already which proves my point

Quote:

They say it's because they make more money that way
This is the only motivation.....and of course nobody will tell their affiliates they
give a shit about what they think, that wouldn't be wise now would it :winkwink:

there's a ton of ways how to run a successful business it all depends on what's
the goal and how fast you want to get there. There's people that want to make
money fast and don't care about the long run, there's people that make money
on cross sales, traffic exchange, member retention, etc, etc.

To have exclusive content, daily updates, blowjobs for members and 20 bonus systems for affiliates doesn't have to be the best way to for everybody in
reaching what he aims for. People don't seem to grasp that.

You can't say this is the right way to do it if you don't know all variables that
come into play for a company and the strategy they use. That's just plain
ignorant to think anyone with half a business brain knows this.

Therefor don't expect any consultancy invitations will coz your rant showed
all these program owners that you have no clue about anything other than
what affiliates would like to see.

Affiliates can serve a purpose doing business but the business does not evolve around affiliates. For some reason affiliates have a problem to grasp
that and think the business couldn't do without them.

If a company's existence would depend primarely on affiliates I wish them
all the luck of the world coz it would be the last position I'd want to be in.

You can't bank your business on something you don't fully control that's business abc first chapter, page one 1.

:thumbsup

Nydahl 01-23-2007 07:56 AM

I think I got a problems here that you can never resolve - specialy with my girlfriend
but you reffered to some shit regarding paysites so I don't care

ServerGenius 01-23-2007 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 11775344)
I was starting to wonder about the tooth Fairy, thanks for the confirmation:thumbsup

If you find her let me know that bitch ripped me off and didn't pay me for a perfectly good tooth I put under my pillow.....you can't trust anyone anymore
these days, what has the world come to :Oh crap


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