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tony286 02-07-2007 10:58 PM

Dot-XXX Seminar Raises Ire of Opposing Webmasters
 
Dot-XXX Seminar Raises Ire of Opposing Webmasters
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By: Ken Knox

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HOLLYWOOD, Calif. -

Although XBiz Editor in Chief Tom Hymes instructed audience members to keep their questions "cordial and non-threatening," queries made to representatives and supporters of the proposed dot-xxx domain were anything but during the question-and-answer period at the Proposed .XXX TLD: A Dialogue with ICM Registry seminar.

With a panel consisting of ICM Registry?s Stuart Lawley, ICRA representative Stephen Balkam, ICM Registry attorney Robert Corn-Revere, and adult industry attorney Greg Piccionelli, the seminar became something of a contentious battleground for webmasters and industry players eager to make their opinions known.

The seminar got off to a quiet start, with Lawley taking on the myths and misunderstandings surrounding the much-opposed dot-xxx domain field. He defended the $60 registration fee ("It?s a matter of straight business and mathematics," he noted) by pointing out that other top-level domains regularly charge higher fees, and shot down the theory that any adult industry players stood to gain any profits from the TLD. "The company is 100 percent owned by the management team," Lawley claimed. "There are no outside investments and no secret deals."

Lawley also addressed the perception that registration with dot-xxx would become mandatory (it won?t, he promised); assured webmasters that priority would be given to existing domain holders ("There are mechanisms in place to challenge the allocation of any name," he claimed); promised that the industry would have a say in the sponsoring of the organization due to two out of seven seats on the board of directors being occupied by adult industry reps; and boasted of documented and broad support from the industry, claiming that dot-xxx has received "unsolicited expressions of support from over 1,500 webmasters in 71 countries."

Furthermore, Lawley?who admitted to not being involved in the adult industry in any way?said he was surprised that the industry as so opposed to dot-xxx. "It enhances the industry for all," he theorized, predicting that "[consumers] will spend more money more confidently" and that registering with the TLD would "clearly align [adult companies] with responsible and ethical behavior."

Meanwhile, Balkam posited that dot-xxx will make it easier to keep porn out of households where adult content is not wanted by encouraging a "semantic Web" that would "make meta-data matter?We see it as an opportunity to hugely increase the amount of sites that are labeled [as being adult oriented], which will improve filtering systems," he offered, adding that the domain field would "reduce the fear and reduce the government from [interceding]."

These statements raised the ire of Piccionelli, who launched into a direct attack on dot-xxx, pointing out that "a lot of damage to free speech rights?including the 2257 regulations?has been under the guise of ?protecting children.?

"At the heart is a political issue of keeping adult content away from children, but equally at heart are the freedom and rights of adults not to be sequestered into unfavorable speech [zones]," he continued. "You can take manure and put it in a gold frame, but all you?re left with is manure in a gold frame."

Piccionelli cited the Cyber Safety for Kids Act as proof that the government most likely would attempt to make dot-xxx mandatory for all adult webmasters and producers, and likened ICM?s pledges to keep registration voluntary to pledges made by men who say, "I promise I won?t come in your mouth."

"Adult content is unpopular speech," he went on to say, likening dot-xxx to the Motion Picture Association of America, which adversely affects the success of movies by bestowing upon them NC-17 or X ratings. He also proposed that "people not in the dot-xxx will be punished or singled out."

While the panel?s moderator, Cydata Service?s Brandon Shalton, pointed out ambiguities in dot-xxx?s terms of service, others instead focused on their beliefs that such a TLD is unnecessary.

"I just don?t think can keep kids out of porn," Piccionelli proclaimed. "This is a bunch of people with their heads in the ground trying to pass the buck to someone else."

Audience members lined up to ask questions, keeping the seminar running well beyond its projected 90-minute timeslot. Concerns of domain allocation seemed especially prevalent, with some concerned that they still may lose out on domains they already hold.

Perhaps the most powerful statement made during the Q&A period came from Free Speech Coalition Executive Director Diane Duke, who said she felt that?despite ICM?s claims that dot-xxx would be a tool for the adult industry?the TLD would become "a tool for the government."

"You?re asking us to sign on to something where the road is very hazy," she added. "As a businessman looking out for his own business interests, how can we be sure that you?re going to look out for the best interests of the adult industry?"

Sadly, that question was not answered during the seminar, and probably will not be resolved for some time.

MandyBlake 02-07-2007 11:52 PM

good post tony

spider_x 02-08-2007 12:02 AM

What better way to put porn into the hands of minors than labelling it clearly as DOT XXX, period.

stickyfingerz 02-08-2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spider_x (Post 11880277)
What better way to put porn into the hands of minors than labelling it clearly as DOT XXX, period.

Ya somehow I had a stack of nudey mags from when I was 12 to 18 with no problem lol, and I didnt get them from my father or brother etc.

TampaToker 02-08-2007 12:08 AM

Spam me with new programs
 
Looking for something fresh under 3 months old or has unique conent :thumbsup

fuhkinglou 02-08-2007 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 11880284)
Ya somehow I had a stack of nudey mags from when I was 12 to 18 with no problem lol, and I didnt get them from my father or brother etc.

Exactly. I wanted porn when I was 11 and was able to get my hands on it. I remember kids having it in 5th grade. Sigh... I thought the republicans were about less big government.

chupacabra 02-08-2007 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 11880292)
Looking for something fresh under 3 months old or has unique conent :thumbsup

uh, what? did you even read the thread? so...

...did anyone bring up the .kids side of the argument, which makes a lot more sense when it comes to child-safe internet climes..?

SleazyDream 02-08-2007 12:35 AM

1500 webmaster said they want it -what failed to say is that of them they send a total of 4 sales combined to the programs within the industry

baddog 02-08-2007 12:40 AM

I have to say I was pretty disappointed at the turn out. The 2257 seminar was standing room only, and the .xxx seminar allowed us to stretch out and do jumping jacks without bothering anyone else.

tony286 02-08-2007 02:32 PM

bump for a better article

Mr. Jim 02-08-2007 02:44 PM

For once an objective fact based post without spreading lies and slandering people.

I was there Tony... I was in Lawley's face... where were you???

Peaches 02-08-2007 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11880361)
I have to say I was pretty disappointed at the turn out. The 2257 seminar was standing room only, and the .xxx seminar allowed us to stretch out and do jumping jacks without bothering anyone else.

Very interesting info.....:helpme

Quentin 02-08-2007 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chupacabra (Post 11880345)
uh, what? did you even read the thread? so...

...did anyone bring up the .kids side of the argument, which makes a lot more sense when it comes to child-safe internet climes..?

Yes, actually, Lawley himself brought up .kids. He pointed at the lack of interest in registering such domains, as represented by a previous aborted attempt to establish a .kids type TLD, and declared the idea a "non-starter."

- Q.

tony286 02-08-2007 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Jim (Post 11884311)
For once an objective fact based post without spreading lies and slandering people.

I was there Tony... I was in Lawley's face... where were you???

Please tell me where I lied, your the one slandering .
Im still waiting to see if your a man and apologize :
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/704350-xxx-happened-xbiz-people.html

chupacabra 02-08-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 11884476)
Yes, actually, Lawley himself brought up .kids. He pointed at the lack of interest in registering such domains, as represented by a previous aborted attempt to establish a .kids type TLD, and declared the idea a "non-starter."

- Q.

wow, so the kids-esque website operations don't want to be ghetto-ized either, go figure. maybe the parents are going to have to intervene..

:disgust :(

baddog 02-09-2007 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chupacabra (Post 11880345)
uh, what? did you even read the thread? so...

...did anyone bring up the .kids side of the argument, which makes a lot more sense when it comes to child-safe internet climes..?

I believe he said there were a grand total of 25 .kids domains purchased.


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