Nathan (formerly with TMM/NATS) releases new Amateur Flash Portal!
 

I'm proud to finally release my new project to everyone on GFY!

ForAmateursOnly

My biz partner in europe and I have been testing the system for the past few months and the initial results are great! Together with Duke from DukeDollars we have now deceided that the correct next step is to release it in the US for an open beta!

Duke has always been a great friend of mine since the early days of NATS, and really understands how the business works, so I asked him if he would like to step on board as a partner in this venture. We are all excited to see months of hard work finally come to fruition. We are sure ForAmateursOnly will make everyone who promotes it satisfied beyond their expectations.

The site's idea is easy but effective. REAL AMATEURS (girls, guys and couples) register with us and upload their own content to our site. Surfers buy that content set by set and our amateurs get a percentage of what they spend. This results in more extreme and higher quality content compared to other amateur sites.

The site is totally Web 2.0, with RSS feeds for every single page, tags and streaming FLASH video! We are currently finishing our special video player which will allow surfers to download the videos.

Paying up to 35%! (with rebill rates similar to livecam sites!)
5% Webmaster Referral
5% AMATEUR REFERRAL

Our system is SKINABLE! So we can customize it to your own design if wanted!

On top of simple skins we can setup a portal you can integrate in your own partnership program! Instant new site for your resellers to promote and you make extra $$ without any expenses!

We are currently offering RSS Feeds, Dynamic HTML Content IFrames, and a XML Data dump to use for promotions of our site.
Banners, Geo-Targeted Banners, Geo-Targeted Text Links and of course FHGs specially created by our amateurs will follow soon!

You can find our partnership program at http://faocash.com

Any questions, contact me on ICQ 1889711 or Skype fthylmann.

Feedback is always welcome!

Looks great Nathan it should do really well. Congratulations and good luck to you. :)

Mark

looking good congrats and good luck

Looks Great! Congrats on the launch!

Jim

It's different and ver simple i'm sure surfers would like it.

Good luck! and congrats...

:thumbsup

It looks great!

Congrats Nathan and DukeDollars! :thumbsup

Looks like something original to start pushing. :winkwink:

great concept - looks pomising. best of luck :thumbsup

interesting, however I think your pricing is a bit high... more or less from what I saw its going to cost $30 for 10 videos?
thats going to be a tough sell I believe..I'm sure there are various credit prices per video.. but why would a surfer spend that kind of money when they can get a paysite membership with access to way more video content for the same price?

Also you might want to clean up the english on the site..it screams non U.S. and thats not going to make a U.S. surfer feel too comfy. Additionally the IFRAMES with the descriptions below the thumbs showing random scroll bars looks tacky..need to make some adjustments there as well.

good luck

WOW, looks great. I'll have to play with it when I get some time. :thumbsup

congrats looks great

Nathan, looks good... but when I went to signup as a user, I was a little concerned that there was no terms and conditions on the signup page. No way to know exactly why you want the email address or what you intend to do with it.

Thx Bro!

This is definatley a step in the right direction for us. If you need anything just hit me up.
Thx for the kind words,
Duke

Second question comes to mind, of course - what are you paying for those email addresses? Will a person who uses an email address be "ours" forever for all sales?

TOS is getting drafted. Pls do not be concerned as we would never spam you or sell your email or what not. I think you have a valid concern. But you do not have to worry.
Cheers
Duke

Its looking Sharp Nathan :thumbsup

looking great. .good luck :)

nice :thumbsup

It looks GREAT and love the technology..very unique! Nice job on that.

However, there is no way in hell that site is even close to 2257 compliant. Even your 2257 compliance statement admits that you are not 2257 compliant.

If Duke and Nathan are involved, I'm down. There couldn't be better, smarter people involved.

Pretty cool, I guess you saw yuvutu before.

Hi hotrocket,

It does look expensive, I agree, but you will be surprised what people are willing to spend. Don't forget, its WAY cheaper than the average US livecam sites, but the reason why both work is the same, direct contact to the models and a privat-feel. People are willing to pay a lot for that once they get hooked. Give it a try, you'll be surprised.

The english is definately not great yet, its my english... ;) We'll be working on that though, thx.

Regarding the design of the boxes (its not iframes), to each their own, if you have enough traffic, get yourself a skin and we'll change the look to whatever you want.

Soon you'll be able ot make a skin in a builder app yourself which will offer multiple ways to design the content boxes.

As duke said, things like the TOS is in the works.

The "weird" free join system is actually coming from weeks of testing, and this way is the best in free join conversion.

The email only join form is JUST for email verification. People that VERIFY their email actually join too (at least 98% do), we will NEVER actually use those email addresses unless they are used to join the site since this way our accounts have 100% clean emails.

Neither does the email only join form clutter our free join statistics and database with bad free joins. (So the REGs you see in your stats, are actually people that fully signed up!)


As per your second concern, of course once people enter their email address the affiliate code is stored in the db along with it and used later if it can nolonger be found in their session. Members are yours forever once they join.


Thanks for the feedback!

Thanks JMM,

2257 compliance was a concern of ours from the beginning. First of all of course, WE do not have to be 2257 compliant, the site is not owned by a US company. Of course that does not help you much.

We are of course secondary producers and as such under the new regulations need to have 2257 information for sexually explicit content. That is why we do collect identification documents and get contracts signed by all our amateurs. Occasionally we will have one who does not have IDs for all the actors in their videos, doesn't happen often though.

In any case, because of the 2257 stuff, for those that need it, we provide promo material that does not require 2257 information due to its content. Because our content is _TRUELY_ amateur, we can impossibly give out ID documents and similar to webmasters. On top of that it would conflict EU privacy laws which we will not break.

So we have thought about this quite a bit, and the 2257 compliancy statement is just there in general so we at least state that we have heard of the thing.

So, you do not have to worry about the site itself, since 2257 does not concern us directly, and webmasters do not need to worry because if you have to abide by 2257 regulations you can simply use our non explicit content. Once you link to us its our problem and not yours.

Forgot one thing..

by the english on the site, you mean the english in the descriptions? If so, they are done by our amateurs, if the amateur is german, french or dutch for example, you will have bad english in there, makes the site what it is though, REAL.

The english text on the site itself, outside of content titles and descriptions, is being worked on though.

Yes, we know yuvutu... its good if you like illegal content, none of it is reviewed though, and the amateurs do not make money off of it.. that is why our amateurs actually put good amounts of work into these videos, because we pay them for it.

A small but nice sample of a teaser video by one of our amateurs (you could embed this into your own site and it links to our system at the end of the clip with your affiliate code of course)

http://foramateursonly.com/view/942-hq

* bump *

:thumbsup I'd Hit it

congratulations and good luck!!

I'll see what I can arrange Red ;)

looking good guys congrats

WOW

that is the biggest crap Ive every heard - excuse me the site looks great but that is just bullshit

You 'thought' about this? I reckon you mean you consulted an attorney on this? Cause Im sure your host ISPRIME loves to know your content isnt 100% 2257 compliant.

So what processors are you using. Might be interesting when one of them pulls your account.

Interesting.....

hey nathan and duke, congratulations on the site/program. make sure you submit it both to sponsorslist and rabbitsreviews for review. you can click on my sig to do so.

good stuff right there

well thats news then

noone cares its a non US company non US biller not compliant content and were all gonna promote then right.

Ill be the first to say I knew when Eurobill pulls the plug due to planned law changes in Germany being pressured upon by the EU.

Plus I highly doubt its legal to put non 2257 compliant content on a US server to promote this site.

Nice idea - bad setup

The content that is on US ISPrime servers is 2257 compliant, we have 2257 docs for all amateurs, the ones that show actors where we do not have 2257 docs are not put on the US servers.

We _ALWAYS_ have 2257 docs for the main actor, but since some have additional actors where they do not provide US with 2257 information we flag them and make sure they do not get hosted on US servers, they are hosted in the EU.

Re: your second post...

Why would the _EU_ pressure germany with laws in terms of adult related content? Thats what I _guess_ you meant... Germany has the most strict pornography laws in europe.

Also, there are more billers than EuroBill out there.. there also is CCBill EU or Paycom EU...

EU based processors... no reason they would pull our accounts...

If youre so sure bout german porn laws - then were the Jugendschutz disclaimer? and the warning page? I seriously suggest you get a German lawyer to look into this and not go by the gut feeling.

Plus you know as well as I do that CCBILL EU will not even touch anything close to a 'we have no docs but theyre not on this server' statement.

Plus yes changes are being as we speak to impose EU laws on German processors. Theres a reason why some companies seek german processors and theres also a reason why the EU wants that changed.

As for the PM post: hardcore is an issue in germany, it has to meet a lot of standards, warning pages, disclaimers, blanked out pics - if you took this time to set up the site, then Im wondering why you dunno this.

And last, seriously, youre telling me the content thats non compliant is on a different server? You know that will take only 5 secs to check and no I wont but I sure hope thats true.

In case you wonder: weve had german sites for over 5 yrs and decided to quit on the german market, after a long talk with our attorney, its complicated TOO complicated with the contradictions between german and EU laws.

Irrigardless I still wish you all the best in the world with your new site.

Q: do you scan userdata and content?

The site is neither owned, nor hosted, by a german entity. I suggest you get your facts straight before you stir shit...

Correct, CCBill EU would not touch a site with crappy 2257 disclaimers. We do not have a crappy 2257 disclaimer. We have a disclaimer which states the truth. You probably know as well as I do that CCBill EU _WILL_ touch a site which is owned by an EU entity but does not even HAVE a 2257 disclaimer! Removing the disclaimer if needed is an easy thing for us, because, as I said before, _WE_ do not require it! We have 2257 information currently for our US affiliates so they know that we _DO HAVE_ 2257 documentation for our amateurs!

Again, the company is not located in germany, nor is it hosted there. But for your info, you might be interested to see this: http://foramateursonly.com/?f=2

100% censored version of the site with german so called "Face2Face" AVS system.

Yes it is, not sure how you would "take only 5 secs" to check to be honest, since YOU do not know for who we have docs and who we do not have docs for (especially since right NOW there is _noone_ on the site we do NOT have docs for!)... We have 4 servers currently. 2 In the US, 2 in the EU.

Good for you that you quit, you quit one HELL of a big market which can EASILY be served if you know how. You might want to talk to someone about how to do so, its not really THAT complicated.

What do you mean by that exactly?

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

true its a US based host with content thats partially non 2257 compliant content thats impossible to check facts on - on a german processor with performers with underaged banned words

http://www.dutchteencash.com/post/boards/pinklol.jpg

dont worry bout us - weve made our cash long ago on the german market with the nice 3 mark 63 dialers

But hey no worries you might get away with it

There is no problem with hosting stuff in the US, a host is not liable for 2257 information, the site owner is. We have 2257 information for the stuff we need it, on top of that our amateurs, which are the producers, have 2257 information (obviously, since its themself), so there really is no problem here...

Sounds to me like you are pissed we had the idea for this site and not you... Its fully legit, we have thought this through, we have talked to lawyers and so on...

Thanks for pointing out that one amateur username... I'll get that changed...

Nathan is a Very Intelligent guy, he didn't decide to just throw this up. He took his time and looked at all the angles

looking good! best of luck with it!

Im not pissed at all - the idea has been there for ages so have the many sites all over the web, nothing is unique anymore these days

Doesnt mean its not a good idea - its just the way its set up is bothersome

But lets wrap this up, all the best, Im sure youve got your ass covered

Here's a good luck bump for you:)