Do you think will76 will be Assassinated
 

Just kidding man, but these companys seem very powerful.

:Oh crap ............

If he stays away from grassy knolls he should be OK

fuck'em..

well, it's probably human nature for people to lie, cheat and steal
some entities will get away with screwing people over as long as they can
until someone gets big enough balls and cares enough to make a stand
and they are forced to do something about it

anything with power is bound to be corrupt
it's up to the people supporting the power to keep them in check
thank God there are those few to take a stand
because most people are apathetic
and it's the apathy that allows the corrupt to build their empire

he is messing with some major players. :2 cents:

Another quality thread from Batts.

Going after Lars is one thing, but attacking Mr. Muir is not a good idea. :2 cents:

yeah, look what happened when martin luther when after whitey

what the hell as that got to do with anything?

the world has followed and reiterated the David and Goliath scene many times over :2 cents:

good one...

I wouldn't say that I am attacking Mr. Muir. If you read the previous threads he made about me using his fake nick " traffichog" than you would see he has attacked me. Making a post pointing FACTS about someone isn't attacking them. If they have a problem with what I am saying they shouldn't have done those things in the first place.

Mr. Muir has Mr. Muir to thank. If he wouldn't have attacked me with his fake nick I would have never known who he was. It was pretty easy for me to conntect Traffichog as being his nick. Honestly, if he wouldn't have put the spot light on himself I probably would have never noticed him.

We need more people like Will 76 , When I go to a password trading or a bit torrent site there is a aff banner they are fucking me and anyone who produces content.If these sites didn't make money they wouldn't exist,aff funds that.

:1orglaugh

If i turn up missing I hope the police start with these people first. :2 cents:


If i get threatened by anyone you will see Will76 x10

Will760?

exactly :thumbsup

he will not be assasinated.....he will end up overdosed in a seedy motel if the cleaner does his job properly:winkwink:

hahaahaha . . in death we trust !

uh, not to disparage Will or GFY but neither matter or can effect the businesses involved. as posters here, its nice to think it possible but its all shrugged off, rightly or wrongly.

This biz has always been about what is legal and what is not. If it ain't illegal, it won't be stopped and the really smart guys will make millions while chat board warriors bitch.

I'm not in favor of spyware but what I'm infavor of doesn't change the facts of life. ;)

so which one are you, the really smart guy or chat board warrior. Which do you think I am ?

now we 're talkin

You ever stop to think that at the beginning of every new industry there were lots of people like you, patting themselves on the back, saying nothing would ever change, that the game would always be played by their rules? Who even remembers them?

The names that did survive in oil, banking or anything you care to name, what they have in common is that if they didn't play straight from the beginning, they knew when it was time to clean up their acts.

You aren't treading a new path and if you were near as smart as you apparently think, you would put your ego on hold, read some business history and learn from it.

IMHO, I think that Will (and a few others) have finally pointed out that the emperor has no clothes. Everyone was fawning over AFF and whatnot, and yet in the end, it has been shown that by purchasing traffic from zango, they have been basically taking advantage of even their largest affiliates.

Will has taken a risk that is close to "business suicide", but the reality is that he isn't wrong.

It goes beyond just exposing the emperor. Look at his courtiers, Sleazy and a lot of other TGP operators, sponsors too, who it turns out were dumb enough to put so many of their eggs in one basket that they can't easily extricate themselves. Their goosebumps are showing too.

But there is a long way to go. Somewhere down the line it has to sink in that it's a nonsense for a sponsor getting ripped in a dozen threads to show up on the same board running a competition, that it doesn't make sense to drop a sponsor because you think he is damaging the industry, but continue to work with people who still support him.

For some people it would be a risk, especially program owners, etc... For me it really isn't a risk, I am just speaking my mind without having to worry about consequence.

My first 4 years in this industry I didn't post on messageboards or read them, hell I am not sure if I even knew they existed.

I found Ynot in 2003 because I was pissed that (shit I can't even remember their name) gateway processor was dropping adult like a hot potatoe and all of a sudden they had a fuck you, you scum attitude with me, but the previous 4 years my money was good enough for them, now, over night it was dirty... anyway i wanted a place to speak my opinion I emailed a bunch of webmaster resource sites with my "story" and Jay from Ynot was the only one to reply back and he suggested i post there as well.

I found the boards as a way for me to speak out and voice my opinions,concerns, etc.. and I still use them for that purpose today (GFY maybe a little too much for entertainment sometimes) . You have never seen me sig whore, post in contest, etc... If I piss someone off so be it. I opperated very well for many years before even talking to 1 other person in this industry and if I were to resort back to that now I am sure I would do just as well now. Sure networking is a big plus, but if are mainly an advertiser than you don't need to kiss anyone's ass. You can piss off Sponsors all day, most of them only care about money, so chances are they will still take my sales if they don't like me.

It just seems that since all this zango stuff has come out I have had a lot more to express than normal. If someone here doesn't like me fine, if they do like me, cool.. If i piss a lot of people off and one day start a program I will just buy a lot of drinks to make up for it :1orglaugh

what?????

somehow i have never seen that one...

actually made me laugh out loud. thanks :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

hahaha, sure kid. here's someone else even your version of history never remembers, chat board prattlers like yourself who've never done a thing but make meaningless posts in the hope that they're *perceived* to somehow know something.:thumbsup

Couldn't think of any huh?

I tell you one thing tho... it's been a lot of years since anyone called me kid. Thanks.

for your false version of history?
all the businesses on the cutting edge, oil, banking, or anything else you care to pretend to have a clue about who were making fortunes playing on the cutting edge were ONLY ever reined in by laws imposed on them.

Don't ever try to act knowledgable with me you half wit, I'm not one of the kids here you can gull by pretending to know what happened before they were born.

I've only got your posts to judge your age by.

LOL Adult companies do not know "power" other than the keyboard warriors and attorneys they employ. The last time the adult industry had anyone powerful in it, it was the adult MOVIE industry and it was controlled by the mafia LONG before the internet, or any of us web nerds were even thought of.

Funny thread though.

Are you really foolish enough to believe that the little guy, to whom no-one pays any attention when businesses are making their first millions, suddenly becomes everyone's concern when those companies are making tens of millions? Laws do get passed which businesses do not want, but many are promoted by businesses themselves for their own benefit. Trade associations (in whatever form) are not created to give mom-and-pop businesses a leg up: their primary purpose is to protect the interests of the biggest operators.

This Zango/scumware issue is exactly the kind of activity which can force major operators, however unwillingly, to begin applying standards. Because while most of the fuss on boards like this has been generated by affiliates, scumware isn't like shaving and other things allegedly used to harm only affiliates. Scumware costs targeted sponsors the same percentage of their business as their affiliates lose: the difference is that applied to their income, that percentage represents a vastly more significant dollar loss. Use whatever common sense you possess and ask yourself for how long dozens of sponsors will tolerate such losses.

You are a dinosaur waiting for the asteroids to hit. When someone starts in business and doesn't have a pot to p*ss in, scamming someone out of $10 might be a big deal, especially if a thousand people can be scammed. But once you have a million in the bank, a scam needs to be worth $10K a pop or whatever, to be interesting.

The other side of that coin is that your targets can't be the little guys that no-one cares about any more. Each time you are successful at one level, your next targets have to be richer. Before long, big companies are fighting each other. And before too much longer a few of them figure out that if they can level the playing field (in their favor), they will be a lot better off. Business 101. Not idealism, left-wing politics or whatever it is you think you are railing against. Simple self interest.

hahaha, dinosaur?
hahahaha, better a dinosaur than a joke.
many dinosaurs survive change, chartboard heros never evolve.
having accomplished nothing, they don't understand what it takes to succeed, only whine and guess.

Stuart Lawley has a greater chance of assasination than will76.

The industry should have many more proactive people with will's ethics.

as long as he doesn't criticize Putin, he'll be fine :)

Let the truth be known I see alot too....Wiil76 is not the only one on here with a brain or a set of balls and I will criticize anyone who is involved with the traffic redirections........

It is pretty plain to see who is on what side of the fence.

Oh and to all you new people..............

READ ON.................

I almost slipped in the shower today if that counts for anything.

See Will its all this negative energy!

Are you for real? Lars may make (by being a thief) some good money, but he is more of an IDIOT than a major player. He is the one who really needs to watch over his back not Will76. Also what goes around comes around, and I'm sure eventually the Law as well as the IRS will have their way with AFF....:2 cents:

AMEN!...................

fucking priceless.... thanks for the laugh....

Good one :D hehe